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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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All good news so far. I may for once actually make some money from shares

Sold off my Barclays yesterday at just over 300p which I bought at about 267. I'm sure they'll drop again when the next round of banking bad news comes out (ie next euro zone country they are exposed to looks to be defaulting on its sovereign debt)
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Tempted to sell.
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
All good news so far. I may for once actually make some money from shares

Sold off my Barclays yesterday at just over 300p which I bought at about 267. I'm sure they'll drop again when the next round of banking bad news comes out (ie next euro zone country they are exposed to looks to be defaulting on its sovereign debt)
Yup, have a look at Allied-Irish Bank and the Bank Of Ireland prices over the past 6 months. If other European banks are in similar difficulties, there'll probably be another couple of scares before the end of the year.

(Santander is another one to watch. They seem to wobble more randomly than Barclays though. At least, for us UK folk.)

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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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More bad news from the GoM...

The US fears oil may be seeping from the ocean floor near the stricken Gulf of Mexico oil well.

The official in charge of the clean-up, Thad Allen, said if a substance leaking from the seabed was found to be methane this may mean oil was also leaking.


But BP says it would take three days to start this process.

During this time, the daily leakage of tens of thousands of barrels of oil, which had been capped last Thursday, could resume.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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oh ****e . i guess it was kinda of inevitable
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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the 4.30 at Haydock Park looks like a good punt too
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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How long before Exxon launch a takeover bid on BP?
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
How long before Exxon launch a takeover bid on BP?

I think they have been shown the green light by the senate, I think a likely outcome from all this is seeing BP a fraction of the size it is now through demerger and selling parts if it's business off
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by alloy
I think they have been shown the green light by the senate, I think a likely outcome from all this is seeing BP a fraction of the size it is now through demerger and selling parts if it's business off

I agree. My guess is BP will sell off a good portion of their downstream business as that's where their biggest costs and smallest margins are.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Tempted to sell.
Did you John?

I'm going to ride it out!
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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I sold everything at 417.something.

One correct decision I made for once?
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
the 4.30 at Haydock Park looks like a good punt too
You seem to have nothing constructive to add to this debate. Why do you bother posting?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Seems like there was some confusion yesterday about whether the cap was leaking or not. Overnight it seems like the leak maybe inconsequential.

If the fall yesterday was due to this then I suppose we may see a rebound today? If the fall yesterday was due to other reasons ie general outlook for BP then probably not!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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10:43 20Jul10 -RPT-WRAPUP 1-BP rises on cap news as Cameron set to talk Libya
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* BP shares up on news seep unrelated to Macondo well
* British PM to meet Senators on Libya prisoner release
* Gulf oil rig had maintenance problems-rig engineer
* BP shares up 1.1 pct, outperforming energy stocks index

By Tom Bergin and Kristen Hays
LONDON/HOUSTON, July 20 (Reuters) - BP shares rose on Tuesday on confidence that a cap on its Gulf of Mexico well was holding, as Britain's Prime Minister agreed to meet senators probing the oil major's role in the release of a Libyan jailed for bombing a U.S. plane.
BP Plc <BP.L><BP.N> shares traded up 1.1 percent at 0931 GMT, outperforming a 0.2 percent rise in the STOXX Europe 600 Oil and Gas index <.SXEP>, after Thad Allen, the top U.S. oil spill official said a seep detected about 3 km (1.9 miles) from the well was not caused by a pressure test on the well.
The test has stemmed the flow of oil since Thursday, bringing hope to residents in the Gulf region, and to BP investors, that the crisis has turned a corner.
The oil spill remains a major political issue and will loom large when British Prime Minister David Cameron meets President Barack Obama in Washington on Tuesday. [ID:nLDE66I0I8]
Cameron has also agreed to meet with four U.S. senators from New York and New Jersey who have demanded investigations into the release of Libyan intelligence officer Abdel Basset al-Megrahi, who was convicted of the 1988 bombing of a Pan Am flight over Lockerbie, Scotland.
Al-Megrahi was released from a Scottish prison on compassionate grounds last year on the basis he was terminally ill with cancer and had only a few months to live.
BP has confirmed it lobbied the British government in late 2007 over a prisoner transfer agreement with Libya, which could have paved the way for al-Megrahi's release but it said it was not involved in talks on his final release.
The release was strongly opposed by the Obama administration and by Cameron, who was in opposition at the time.

WELL CAPPED FOR NOW
Officials are monitoring the pressure in the well to gauge whether it is structurally sound. An intact well would help when a relief well now being drilled tries to permanently plug the leak, but damage could complicate that effort.
Concern about potential problems means Allen is giving the London-based oil giant permission to proceed on a daily basis.
Kent Wells, BP's senior vice president of exploration and production, said continuing the test in 24-hour increments "is absolutely the way for us to go forward".
He said the longer the test lasts, and as long as the well shows signs that it is intact, "we'll just gain more confidence that the well has integrity and we have a depleted reservoir".
Wells and Allen mentioned another idea on Monday that scientists are weighing: a so-called "static kill" to help smother and plug the leak.
This would involve pumping heavy drilling mud and possibly cement into the well, much like BP's failed "top kill" in May.
During the top kill process, the well was not shut in at the top, so most of the mud shot out along with crude, BP has said. Wells said with the well enclosed, BP would not have to pump in so much so fast, because crude is not flowing.
As part of an ongoing test of the well, BP choked off the flow a mile (1.6 km) under the water's surface with a cap on Thursday, marking the first time oil has not spewed since the April 20 explosion on the offshore rig killed 11 workers.
The worst oil spill in U.S. history has caused an economic and environmental disaster in five states along the Gulf Coast and hurt Obama's approval ratings. (Additional reporting by Tabassum Zakaria in Washington, Matthew Lynley in New York, and Mary Rickard in Kenner, Louisiana; Writing by Ed Stoddard and Deborah Charles; Editing by Stacey Joyce and Will Waterman)
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Well I'm having a right good week (let me gloat, my investments usually turn to sh1te!)

My Barclays shares were bought circa 267, I sold some at 300 and will the sell the rest tomorrow at 339!

BP doing well around the £4mark. Just can't make my mind up whether to sell them or not.

Gold is the one to watch, could be a buying opportunity developing for those who have missed out so far. Down to a 3 month low, if it drops much lower I'm going to buy as much as I can and wait for $1500 whilst I rub my precious with glee.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Yep, mother nature has some tricks up her sleeve
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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So, i wonder if Barack Obama (hummm, that's BO, just one letter away from BP) will give us a refund on the twenty billion dollars that he forced BP to stump up (for alleged damage that was also caused by some Merkin companies, but who have been surprisingly quiet about it all)????

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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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Looks like it has almost gone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10309001
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 07:27 AM
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I can't find BP on TDWaterhouse site. I'm searching for BP.L, but no luck. Anyone know why? I'm new to this stocks stuff.

Edit: Found it.

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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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423p, nice. No reason why it should drop from here? The well is capped and holding. In terms of liabilities, will these already be factored into the price on a worse case scenario or not?
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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Thanks God I'm back in the black now w/ the share price above ~400p.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Gold is the one to watch, could be a buying opportunity developing for those who have missed out so far. Down to a 3 month low, if it drops much lower I'm going to buy as much as I can and wait for $1500 whilst I rub my precious with glee.
Haven't you missed out? It's been rising for years!

http://goldprice.org/30-year-gold-price-history.html

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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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I think i'd be tempted to take a contrarian view and short gold with a tight stop and a fairly good risk reward trade off.

Done very well out of being long GKP, a stock in BPs sector!
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Haven't you missed out? It's been rising for years!

http://goldprice.org/30-year-gold-price-history.html

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No, I bought years ago. That opinion was directed at people who hadn't invested yet
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by alloy
I think i'd be tempted to take a contrarian view and short gold with a tight stop and a fairly good risk reward trade off.

Done very well out of being long GKP, a stock in BPs sector!
I agree, I think there will be a fall in gold fairly soon. I won't short though but will buy more at that point as I'm still bullish on gold in the medium/long term

What do you think about the BP share price Alloy? All the liabilities already factored into the price or not?

Thanks
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
What do you think about the BP share price Alloy? All the liabilities already factored into the price or not?

Thanks
BP still well below true value - see below link.

http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/20...uyer-interest/

$90 billion/18 billion shares works out at around another £2.75 per share (also the $90 billion is conservative, I actually thought the asset value was closer to $300 billion which is another £2.20 per share)



Worth bearing in mind the $20 billion clean up fund is spread over a number of years + the oil price remains $80+

Even if the clean up costs were 2 or 3 times the $20 billion and spread over a number of years, there's still a lot of value missing somewhere
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Skoobie Dhu
BP still well below true value - see below link.

http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/20...uyer-interest/

$90 billion/18 billion shares works out at around another £2.75 per share (also the $90 billion is conservative, I actually thought the asset value was closer to $300 billion which is another £2.20 per share)



Worth bearing in mind the $20 billion clean up fund is spread over a number of years + the oil price remains $80+

Even if the clean up costs were 2 or 3 times the $20 billion and spread over a number of years, there's still a lot of value missing somewhere

Thanks, I'm glad I held on. Just wish my b8lls were a bit bigger at the time and had bought more
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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But they maxxxed at 630 or whatever it was
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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But they maxxxed at 630 or whatever it was
What do you mean mate?
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