Lee247

Really!!!

It has no place in my life. I will continue to disregard it as it has no jurisdiction over me and never, ever will have

Lee247

No

Leslie

Yes of course it is. It has managed so far to withstand the lefty onslaught from NL and their PC plonker friends.

I hope we are in a position to build on that now and rebuild our own culture and traditions.

Les

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Here you go EDL in action.

The back story claims that this was a Wetherspoons bar which seemed to have become focal point for EDL meets in various cities although since then Wetherspoons claimed to have quoshed this.

Dingdongler

It is interesting though isn't it? It seems like young men like to get together with a common purpose and bond, especially those who perhaps don't have a great deal of purpose in life in general. Its quite similar to the football hooligan phenomenon.

The funny thing is that all those guys yell that they want to preserve english culture which by the looks of it centres around drinking beer, shouting poorly thought out chants, smoking **** and perhaps having kebab

Trout

iTrader: (1)

And I bet it is imported lager (not real English beer) and obviously the kebab/curry/chinese they throw up on the way home is not English either...


...or their trainers or sweatshirts or track suits or football shirts.


They certainly did not seem to be presenting a well thought out objection to Sharia law in the UK!

Jamz3k

Possiblely the best description of Scoobynet i've ever read.

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Are they out and out racists? Or do they just object to certain people/beliefs? Sorry to be ignorant to this, but I like to distance myself from such people. Never the less, it doesn't excuse thug like behaviour.

If they are just racist full stop, they are akin to some vegetarians that spout their love of animals and how they won't eat meat, yet wear clothes/shoes/bags etc. made of animal skin. Bit hypocritical.

Not that I agree with the attitude of these groups (as much as I know of), but if you are going to have 'principles' then at least live by them.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

To answer your core question - they behave like out and out racists - but there again I am not sure that is all of them, or was the intention of the originators of the group.


PS I am a vegetarian and wear leather shoes (I don't like synthetics) however it would seem I am far happier with the reality of animal slaughter than most people I know who eat meat

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

So, why are you a veggie?

I do sort of see what you are saying, but your answer may be relevant.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Because I think it is healthier so I eat mostly a veggie diet with some fish and meat a few times a year. It is not for ethical grounds.

I wanted to bring up the point as context is everything which is pertinent to your metaphor.

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Very true.

The difference between you and some people I know, is you have a different reason for doing what you do. Friends of mine wouldn't eat meat as they loved the animals too much but were happy to wear animal products. Even more odd is a woman I know who will not eat meat at all, but will buy a sausage roll and pick out the sausage (and similar such weird things).

Yes you are right, context is everything, but I only brought up my odd metaphor in relation to your comment about the EDL which I quoted.

To my mind, while context is very important, so is whether people actually have principles, or they just hate what they want to hate, and like what they want to like. Sometimes you can pick and choose, but like you allude to, it really depends on your true views/reasons.

If you were a veggie because you didn't agree with killing animals for human 'enjoyment' but then wore their skin, I would say you were a hypocrite, as it stands that is not the case. Just the same as if a person is out and out racist, it is hypocritical to enjoy some aspects of other races, while claiming you hate everything about them.

I know what I mean even if nobody else does.

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

You'll not want any of my kebab that will be delivered soon, then.

If I'd known you were visiting the area David, I would have put the kettle on and invited you round for a cuppa.

Next time.