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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Just been reading thread,several things come to mind,

After engine failure did anyone check the fuel present in the car ?

Are uk maps holding to much advance to get leaner burn ie economy ?

Are uk maps less flexable low on learning to narrow peramiters

WRX engines ok because they are running lower spec.

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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Can anyone give a scientific explanation for the reason why the 2.5's pistons cause these failures?
in my non techie terms = chocolate pistons...made in the cadbury factory!
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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why do they not put forged pistons in like the jdm models and put ****eones in uk cars
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Old Aug 16, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Default 2008 hatch sti 2.5

Bought April 2010 failed at 14000 miles.
Dealer has blamed me for it being low on oil??? (But checked a 1000mil ago)
There was no warning light.
the car still starts but has a knocking sound and have bean told it sounds
Like a big end Bering has gone.

Also it had flat spots between 2k & 3k

Helpppppp!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Again for anyone who needs proof that this is an inherent global Subaru fault, please look here.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2-5-lite...ti-owners.html

and here

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1632634

and here

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-gener...-problems.html

This is not just a U.K issue.

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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My car is still at subaru and they what to take the engine apart to investigate the problem, but are saying they what us to give them a signature saying we will pay them £600 for taking apart the engine if they decide it's not warranty work, but we know the problem is down to it burning oil and the big end bearing.

I have spoken to a 3rd party subaru specialist and he said that the oil burning is down to bad subaru build quality and all the 08 hatch engines have the same problem, he also said it is all warranty work.

he has 2 friends that have had the same problem and all work was done under warranty.

Can any one help me as what to do next, subaru are not very helpful
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jackevans211
My car is still at subaru and they what to take the engine apart to investigate the problem, but are saying they what us to give them a signature saying we will pay them £600 for taking apart the engine if they decide it's not warranty work, but we know the problem is down to it burning oil and the big end bearing.

I have spoken to a 3rd party subaru specialist and he said that the oil burning is down to bad subaru build quality and all the 08 hatch engines have the same problem, he also said it is all warranty work.

he has 2 friends that have had the same problem and all work was done under warranty.

Can any one help me as what to do next, subaru are not very helpful
Can't see how a specialist can diagnose a problem over the phone without the engine in front of them

If you have a total conviction that it is a warranty job then sign off the £600 but hire a a cert. engineer to inspect the tear down and get Subaru to agree to his costs if its a warranty.
Sounds like they want to scare you off as it is likely to cost IM ANOTHER engine.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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I think you should start logging the dealers these problem warranty claims are coming from, as i think there is a pattern emerging.

I know some dealers don't want time consuming engine out/strip/build/refit jobs, & some aren't even geared up for it, as some dealers to major jobs for other dealers.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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Bring it to our dealership, were more than happy and equipt to deal with these engine failures
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Thanks
where is you dealership?

The subaru specialist has seen the problem b4 but he can only go on what I have told him.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jackevans211
Thanks
where is you dealership?

The subaru specialist has seen the problem b4 but he can only go on what I have told him.
That would be the problem Probably lol

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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Would u b abal to do the work under warranty.

And be a bit more helpful than my dealership lol.
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jackevans211
Would u b abal to do the work under warranty.

And be a bit more helpful than my dealership lol.
First thing we would do is a compression test to identify if there is a serious problem within the engine, this is usually chargable to the customer if there isnt a problem within the engine, but if there is then its a warrenty thing to be fair..
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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I have spent some time getting info,it would appear there are two problems crap pistons,poor mapping,Subaru want to sweep this problem away,if they acknowledge they have a problem it is going to cost them money plus reputation,time for them to stand up and be counted !!!!
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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has anyone had a rebuild / new engine and had problems since?
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregsti01
I have spent some time getting info,it would appear there are two problems crap pistons,poor mapping,Subaru want to sweep this problem away,if they acknowledge they have a problem it is going to cost them money plus reputation,time for them to stand up and be counted !!!!
That is something that is disappearing VERY fast.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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That is something that is disappearing VERY fast.
It's on the UK cars reputation that's suffering the JDM cars have no issue atall and are good gor 450bhp+

I don't understand why they change the spec of the engines for the UK i guess it's a lot cheaper.

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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by juggers
It's on the UK cars reputation that's suffering the JDM cars have no issue atall and are good gor 450bhp+

I don't understand why they change the spec of the engines for the UK i guess it's a lot cheaper.

Immy
Not sure if it's emissions?

Unfortunately not everyone looks at it as 'Type UK' or 'JDM'. The fact Subaru as a collective (or IM)are allowing these issues to happen is detrimental to the whole brand.
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by juggers
It's on the UK cars reputation that's suffering the JDM cars have no issue atall and are good gor 450bhp+

I don't understand why they change the spec of the engines for the UK i guess it's a lot cheaper.

Immy
As I understand 2.5's were invented so Subaru could break into the US market and run decent power on crappy US fuel

That could be completly wrong though.
I think then emissions laws from Brussels might have had something to do with the Euro version.
The Hatch certainly appears to be fitted with some tomfoolery pumps which heat up the exhaust gases rapidly on cold starts
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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my car went into local dealer with loss of power and rattling on cold start up. first i was told it could be where it needed a software update, after a road test they agreed that it was down on power, then a few days later they said it was a faulty secondary air pump. After 2 weeks they phoned me and said there was nothing wrong with the car so i could pick it up. they also refused to do a compression test. Ive had similar experiences with 2 other subaru dealers in my area, they are **** poor and this will be my first and last subaru.

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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CP84
my car went into local dealer with loss of power and rattling on cold start up. first i was told it could be where it needed a software update, after a road test they agreed that it was down on power, then a few days later they said it was a faulty secondary air pump. After 2 weeks they phoned me and said there was nothing wrong with the car so i could pick it up. they also refused to do a compression test. Ive had similar experiences with 2 other subaru dealers in my area, they are **** poor and this will be my first and last subaru.
which dealer was that CP?

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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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That was th whites in cirencester, but ive also found tiley in bristol, and kta in chippenham were really poor. The only people who seem to be helpful are dh in malmesbury but they are not an officail dealer. its a shame cos i love the car but subaru uk need to pull their finger out.
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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I only use DH cars anyway (car purchased from them)

Surprised about Tileys, thought they were more customer friendly
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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has anyone had any problems since the dealer/IM have replaced the engines?
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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update on my 07 sti new short engine on its way from sweden apparently there is a back order of 15 2.5 engines coming over from japan so my dealer told me today......they have managed to trace this swedish one for me... which will be here quicker cant thank the dealer enough loaned me a car for a month now kept me posted as and when things happened and are going to upgrade my loan car next week as wifey and me are going away for a few days and they will give me a legacy till mines fixed in a couple of weeks would recommend them carstins in balsall common.apparently the main bearings had gone on no 3 cylinder area plus one or two other bits..
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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update on my 07 sti new short engine on its way from sweden apparently there is a back order of 15 2.5 engines coming over from japan so my dealer told me today......they have managed to trace this swedish one for me... which will be here quicker cant thank the dealer enough loaned me a car for a month now kept me posted as and when things happened and are going to upgrade my loan car next week as wifey and me are going away for a few days and they will give me a legacy till mines fixed in a couple of weeks would recommend them carstins in balsall common.apparently the main bearings had gone on no 3 cylinder area plus one or two other bits..

i had o wait 2 days on 1 'shim' from sweden. Carstins are friendly and a lot better than where my car was done.
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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when i had my wrx from them a couple of years ago they were greta then nothing was too much trouble for them seems that they are still keeping peopl happy

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just got back from garage new short engine will be here around 8th septemebr so still going be without my sti for another couple of weeks,, the garage have lent me a 10 plate forester to use now as we are going away for a few days and they felt the fiesta was a little small..... keyless entry and keyless start wierd just got to get used to it....
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...new short engine will be here around 8th septemebr...
My birthday lol
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