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Old 06 April 2010, 10:42 PM
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Dont get me wrong, not dissmissing it, just working out why they are so big, more so than the artists whose music they play a lot of the time.
Old 06 April 2010, 11:16 PM
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IDK fella, give us some examples of who you think is big, and someone who isnt so big?

theres a ton of unsung talent out there, alot of getting it out there is who you know due to there been so many DJ's now a days.
Old 06 April 2010, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
but isnt a lot of it just playing someone elses records and trying to eliminate any obvious join by timing, speed and pitch, is the skill mainly in choosing the right records for the audience and dovetail together nicely.
on an average night out maybe but there is more to it than that, one example below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWgDFIC65GA

and my fave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNNwXa4mSgE

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Old 07 April 2010, 07:23 AM
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I've made a few contacts via Facebook with both big name DJ's/producers and some guys working the ladder.

Basically these days if you want to make it big, you have to DJ and produce. The biggest names like your Van Buurens, Markus Schulz' etc. all produce fantastic tracks and support those from up and coming DJ's. It's a big, big community thing and if a top top DJ plays your choon and supports it, it really helps get your name out.

Last big DJ in trance I can think of who's not big on production is Eddie Halliwell, but he's a fookin' nutter behing the decks with his scratching etc.

Top DJ's do get paid a lot, only the same as bankers, footballers etc. etc.

For me, you learn how to sync choons together first - you 4/4 beats, basslines, speeds, pitches, tempo's yadda yadda. Then you work on set layout and what will make an audience enjoy what you're playing. Without wanting to blow my trumpet, I'd like to think after 7-8 years of trying, I have the set layout to a 't'. Just need the blagging rights and a break
Old 07 April 2010, 10:07 AM
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Basic Mixing is very basic these days and can be very simple to learn, but some DJ's (just like me ) have real talent. Some use samples or loop parts of songs, different styles of mixing can change things in a set.

Some DJ's use harmonic mixing which involves mixing with the songs keys in mind so you do not get clashes and everything goes together very nicely. sometimes you can mix songs and most people dont know songs have changed, but rhythms are changing. It keeps a set exciting.

Some people use a program called ableton live to create live re edits of songs. some (deadmau5 for example) literally only use ableton to play all of their tracks and do not actually "DJ"

I cannot remember who was asking about the talent side of djing, think it was jacko but i forgot to quote his post lol, but thats your answer.

Most of the DJ's who are payed massive moeny either actually produce their own stuff, or have been around and earned a big name for basicaly putting a good night on. Eddie halliwell for example is very energetic and you can never guess what he is going to do next. Last year at creamfields he was amazing.

Someone like judge jules for example, i am not too sure why he is payed so much as i have heard some of his mixes before and they are shocking But his radio show isn't bad.
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
I've made a few contacts via Facebook with both big name DJ's/producers and some guys working the ladder.

Basically these days if you want to make it big, you have to DJ and produce. The biggest names like your Van Buurens, Markus Schulz' etc. all produce fantastic tracks and support those from up and coming DJ's. It's a big, big community thing and if a top top DJ plays your choon and supports it, it really helps get your name out.

Last big DJ in trance I can think of who's not big on production is Eddie Halliwell, but he's a fookin' nutter behing the decks with his scratching etc.

Top DJ's do get paid a lot, only the same as bankers, footballers etc. etc.

For me, you learn how to sync choons together first - you 4/4 beats, basslines, speeds, pitches, tempo's yadda yadda. Then you work on set layout and what will make an audience enjoy what you're playing. Without wanting to blow my trumpet, I'd like to think after 7-8 years of trying, I have the set layout to a 't'. Just need the blagging rights and a break
I am the same as you sir, except i am going down the production route so i am going to be bigger and better than you
Old 07 April 2010, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mike1210
on an average night out maybe but there is more to it than that, one example below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWgDFIC65GA

and my fave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNNwXa4mSgE
Listened to both those, very impressive, some impressive skills going on but does it all sound pretty similar, i.e. old school hip hop with a load of scratching, I kind of like it but imagine it could get tiresome pretty quickly, I am a big fan of the Beastie Boys and they use it quite a lot, or did do but its one of those things where a little bit is great but a whole hours worth would drive you mad. Would like to see someone who uses stuff that isnt from the "Motherf*cker/S*ck my Dick" school of Hip Hop, do people use other genres, a bit of Enya mixed up with the Grumbleweeds perhaps

All the big club DJ's, can they do all that stuff and would they typically do it during a set at a big club in Ibiza and would the uninitiate just hear it as the music and only those in the know spot what is going on ?

Also, how do the CD decks work, anyone got a video, how do you get the right spot on a disk, loved the way those guys have bits of something to mark where to put the needle, still must be amazingly accurate to hit the exact right point in the track.

Sorry to ask all the daft questions, just interested !
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Listened to both those, very impressive, some impressive skills going on but does it all sound pretty similar, i.e. old school hip hop with a load of scratching, I kind of like it but imagine it could get tiresome pretty quickly, I am a big fan of the Beastie Boys and they use it quite a lot, or did do but its one of those things where a little bit is great but a whole hours worth would drive you mad. Would like to see someone who uses stuff that isnt from the "Motherf*cker/S*ck my Dick" school of Hip Hop, do people use other genres, a bit of Enya mixed up with the Grumbleweeds perhaps

All the big club DJ's, can they do all that stuff and would they typically do it during a set at a big club in Ibiza and would the uninitiate just hear it as the music and only those in the know spot what is going on ?

Also, how do the CD decks work, anyone got a video, how do you get the right spot on a disk, loved the way those guys have bits of something to mark where to put the needle, still must be amazingly accurate to hit the exact right point in the track.

Sorry to ask all the daft questions, just interested !
At big clubs and places in ibiza i doubt you would hear scratching. With the music, most of the music played is very underground. When i go clubbing i know a big chunk of the music as i also buy underground music as i also DJ, but the average person wouldn't know what or who made the music. Some may not even tell when one song stops and another starts.

The CD decks emulate vinyl. you can either spin the platter to find the right point on the cd, or you can fast forward. Some CD decks let you create cue points so you can quickly jump to a certain point.

I can't get a video as i'm at work but i'm sure somebody else will come along with one soon.
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Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
At big clubs and places in ibiza i doubt you would hear scratching. With the music, most of the music played is very underground. When i go clubbing i know a big chunk of the music as i also buy underground music as i also DJ, but the average person wouldn't know what or who made the music. Some may not even tell when one song stops and another starts.

The CD decks emulate vinyl. you can either spin the platter to find the right point on the cd, or you can fast forward. Some CD decks let you create cue points so you can quickly jump to a certain point.

I can't get a video as i'm at work but i'm sure somebody else will come along with one soon.
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Old 17 April 2010, 09:44 AM
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Bit of a thread revival. Went out for a couple of beers last weekend and went into the bar I casually DJ at now and again. Got chatting with my mate who is the regular cheese DJ and he seemed very excited to let me know that this week they are/have taken order of a pair of Pioneer CDJ 2000s

Guess who was brown nosing just enough to get in DJing for a bit tonight

Still saving as hard as bert in a viagra clinic to get a CDJ 1000 in my set up, but tonight is gonna be quite fun

£3k for a pair of CDJ's - ****
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