scooby L

I was assured the my old Cayman would be £350 for minor service and £550 for more major services...

Only had one service (20k miles) and it came to £1200

New disks, pads, tyres, oil, filters

I questioned why the disks had gone after just 20 thousand miles, and was told it was obviously my kind of driving.... and nothing to do with the disks... which was rubbish because I never hammered them at all. In fact I've driven the Hatch harder and the front pads are 75% worn after 24k, with the disks fine.

Matteeboy

Scooby L - OUCH! I had similar (but MUCH cheaper) on my Astra. Disks shot after 25k miles - it was hardly a Lambo! They told me I must drive it very aggressively. I wasn't impressed.

I think disks should last 30k unless the car is something slightly mental.

zip106

Sometimes low mileage is just as bad for discs.
Mine failed it's last MOT because the inner face on the rear discs were corroded.(a common problem on Porsche, to add to the list!)
Car had only done about 4k miles in that last year, but I managed to get them skimmed.
Obviously there's only a certain amount of times you can re-skim until they need replacing.

A standard line from any Porsche dealer is - 'your pads and discs need replacing, sir...'
Easy money for them.

Kerchinnnggg.

scooby L

They actually blamed the wet weather too.... saying my short commute didn't allow the disks to heat up enough, resulting in more surface rust.. hence more wear...

Anyway... sold it at 26k (rear tyres needed replacing again by then ) £260 a corner

Matteeboy

Think I'm going to need new ones on the Bimmer on the next sevice (due in 6k) - they are big enough to make that a little scary.

4k is a bit poor! I hate the way disk rust when you wash the car - and the way they often stick too. Surely that shouldn't happen in this "day and age?"

Trout

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I have to confess in this instance I asked for new disks. If I had been outside of warranty I would have gone for a totally different solutions (although all GT3 solutions seem 'quite' expensive).

My disks are scored badly and unevenly and the pads are pretty thin too

dunx

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Only in financial terms I think.....

My '97 Impreza "Catalunya" had discs at 14,750 miles/24 months, under warranty they were pants....

dunx

billythekid

My 997 went in for some fairly simple warranty work.

They returned the car, with the fault still, saying "someone will ring you".

That was 3 days ago.

I am leaving it to see how long it takes for them to actually get round to doing something.... if they have not got back to me soon I am going to have a word.... sigh.

Trout

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They make BMW seem good and that takes some doing.

Dingdongler

I hope not! BMW have recently tried to rob me of thousands of pounds after I went in with a fault (vibration/engine noise). They wanted to fix a problem that registered on the diagnostics but when I pressed them on it they said they could not guarantee that would actually fix the issue I've come in with!

The fault they wanted to fix was actually coming up as 'no fault at present' on the diagnostics. They wanted £2400 to fix this and then would have told me they have successfully fixed a problem but not the one that I actually came in with and then continued to squeeze me for £1000s more.

I'm happy to pay for quality but these guys are actually dishonest, I will never step foot in there again.

I wish I wasn't such a tool and could actually give up my habit of expensive/prestige cars, then I wouldn't have to deal with those greasy haired blokes, false smiles, horrible over made up receptionists

Trout

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Everything you post could apply to any BMW as well as a service new disks, pads, tyres, oil and filters could easily be that much on any BMW never mind the high end ones.

nik52wrx

My next door neighbour might disagree with your view having just had to fork out for some abs related item to the tune of £500 on her 1 series (3 months out of warranty).

hodgy0_2

If you pick a car carefully, and just after the "curve" when maintaining an official manufacturers history makes no financial sense you can enjoy quality motoring at a very keen price

I have recently bought several 25/30k value cars @ 5 years old (with 60 to 90 k miles) they drive like new (not that I know what new drives like), I do 25k miles in them – serviced at local garages (ultimately it is brakes and oil, I am not interested in maintaining 45k’s worth of sensors )

I get paid a decent company mileage – which means after 2 years they owe me laterally nothing and I, in theory, could bin them if i got a large bill

dpb

I believe, like nearly everything else, the gap beteeen the manufacturers liabilty and your first instance of trouble is veering towards zero ...!

Everything from Porsches to washing machines to mobile phones

Trout

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Just in case I have tempted anyone to buy one, feast your eyes...

GT3

paulwrxboro

you jokeing ? you have put me right off...beautifull cars tho i could never afford the upkeep

corradoboy

Even if I could afford the upkeep, I wouldn't on principle. I don't take kindly to anyone holding me to ransom and stealing my money, which is what Porsche ownership seems to entail. £100 for an indicator bulb ! They can spout any excuse they like, but that is ridiculous in any language. If the cars design means they have to remove the front end to get to a 49p bulb, then their designers are at fault and should do the work for free as a goodwill gesture to their loyal customers whom pay a high price for their premium product. As for discs that wear out if you use them and wear out if you don't I'd also like to see a wealthy Porsche owner challenge their restrictive warranty criteria, as they are a European manufacturer, and bound under the same rules as all other similar companies, wherein once the 'block exemption' ruling was lifted the consumer was free to seek service work wherever they pleased, as long as the establishment used was VAT registered, could prove the required skills, and used OE parts or those of same or better quality (contentious). If the Porsche wiper blades can be proven to be originally manufactured by Bosch and Porsche tried to use them as an excuse to get out of a warranty claim, they should get well and truly stuffed in any resultant court case. Especially if they were to be trying to evade a claim which was completely unrelated to wipers !

Trout

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Just a couple of observations...

...has someone really been charged £100 for an indicator bulb? One person on this thread has been charged nothing and one has been charged a few pounds (me).

For reference I think a Ford Focus requires the front of the car to be removed to change bulbs and that costs near a £100.

Also in terms of the warranty comments you make - what is being discussed here is the extended warranty which is a contract you enter in to following the manufacturers warranty expiring.

When you enter into the contract you agree that all work that must be done is done by Porsche.

Finally, as far a disks are concerned your comments are verging on hysteria. Porsche disks are like disks on pretty much any other car. The ones on my 911 have lasted longer than the ones on my BMW 530d (it is a heavy car).

The problem is different - unlike a lot of cars that are used every day or used lightly - a lot of Porsches are not used over the winter for example and if the disks are not cleaned/oiled up for storage they can corrode (like they would on any car). When they are used they can be used in spirited driving so they wear.

Mine has done quite a few track days and the 'Ring and 30k miles. Pretty good for a set of disks given my AP disks on my Subaru were shot after one season of road and track driving (<6,000 miles).

Some of the comments are valid, but let's not get too carried away.

Dave Thornton

I agree. It's a bit like the 80/20 rule - 80% of the enjoyment for 20% of the money. Polish the car up, stick on a private plate and the right car can pass off as nearly new.

zip106

This ^^.

As I've said previously, these cars can't be run on a shoestring but the cost can be lessened considerably by using any of the very good independent Porsche specialists, where in my opinion and that of many other owners, you get a far far better level of service for half the cost of an OPC.
Mine, at 7 years old soon, doesn't need an official Porsche stamp in the service book, and I'd be more than happy if not happier, buying another Porsche that has indy stamps

As an aside, my rear tyres need replacing very soon, and even though they cost £260 each they've still just completed 13k miles (as have the brakes, that's 2.5 years of driving) which is slightly more than my wifes BMW and her rears cost a little bit more than mine.

The only problem is that everything seems to need replacing at the same bloody time

Hey, Trouty - fancy going along?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...pril,%20Malton

rb5_336

Buy the OE quality parts cheap as chips from c3bmw.co.uk and do the job yourself. I don't pay for dealers to do jobs as easy as that and charge and arm and a leg for it.

Trout

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They have phoned me to say the car is ready.

They obviously read BBSs as between yesterday and today the level of discount/compensation has risen substantially. Makes it almost worthwhile!!!

And the warranty was only £910. Only £60 more than a BMW 5 series extended warranty.

Zip - I will seek out a good Indy - if I lived near Autofarm or similar it would be a no brainer. My nearest indy is as bad as any OPC in my experience.

Trout

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And all the pre-warranty work has been done under warranty

zip106

£910 for the warranty - how come?
Have they discounted it for you as compo?
Seems like they did you a good deal for an OPC!

Seriously, if you're looking for a good indy Mike at Sports & Classics is in Knutsford.
I'm using him and I live in Notts so a good 2 hr drive, but worth it up to now.

Trout

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It is a long way from me.

The actual policy is £910 plus VAT (the BMW one is £850 plus VAT).

What I didn't realise which they did comp - that they charge separately for the 111 point check. That is a bit of a gouge and I guess is the dealer incentive for selling the warranty.

Once you add both together you get the higher price.

I know it is a matter of some debate, but the value is a GT3 is much more sensitive to provenance than other 911s. You can see with 996 Mk IIs there are quite a few cars popping up at mid-30s and there are a still a group of cars with good provenance in the low to mid 40s which is what I paid and could achieve.

Of course some of the quality cars are outside the OPC network but are looked after by people like Parr or Autofarm which themselves have rock solid provenance.

Anyway - let's do Easter Sunday - it is only 15 minutes from my house! Unless it is raining of course and then I might crash on the way there due to only having two wheel drive and no traction

zip106

Easter Sunday - OK.
Unless it's raining and I may also crash even with 4wd but with no tread on the rear tyres

Trout

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It will make it feel more like driving a proper Porsche

zip106

Trout

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As you can see normal service has resumed

dunx

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I know a lad who killed his 911 in the wet, it's easier than you'd think on worn tyres

There's a Porsche indy in South Leeds, is that the one Trout ?

dunx