You need those big brakes for the big mass.

Something else to consider here SirFozz, and having punted a fair few different types of motor round a circuit, a nicely balanced FWD with a good LSD in the wet is not far off the pace of an AWD out of a corner. Things have moved on in the suspension dept. Not quite as good for sure but then you have the FWD advantages in other areas to balance it.

Your wet AWD advantage is not the big dominant factor you think it is -on circuit anyway.

Road use - are you pushing that hard in the wet?

Snow - AWD wins, but a FWD on winter tyres can beat the sucker in his part-time mock AWD shod with summer sports tyres.

 

The hostile approach also falls at your door Budgie. There was no polite invite from you on the Megane site. Just a one line challange.

Oh and just another point here, wasnt a 2007 Sti Wagon about £27K list? No Megane comparison.

 

Just had a look at what Topgear say about the Megane:

"Good to look at, lots of kit, but not quite as good to drive as a Focus or a Golf"

 

Just a few specs, taken from the Renault Sport, Ford and Subaru websites:

Megane 250 Cup

Power - 250
Torque - 340
Acceleration 0-62 5.9
MPG Urban 24.6
MPG combined - 33.6


Focus RS

Power - 305
Torque - 440
Acceleration 0-62 - 5.9
MPG Urban - 13.4
MPG Combined - 30.1

Impreza STI (330)

Power - 300 (330)
Torque - 407 (470)
Acceleration 0-62 5.2 (4.8)

At the end of the day, it don't matter what spec the car is, it's all down to driver ability and personal preferance.

 

Because even at their "Good value" list price, they still can't shift them off the forecourts without heavily discounting them!

 

when was that then?

 

So you're admitting it's slower then?



Yeah, of course, all the Essex chav loons in their hot hatches do, so I like to keep ahead of them and out of the way! (joking! )

 

I know, its why I had a punt on one.

 

What no prices? - the point I've been on about for too long now. The Megane is £7k cheaper and dynamically better than both.

 

Yep, FWD slower out of a wet corner. AWD slower in other areas.

Are you going to admit to any AWD disadvantges then? You are starting to reveal a lack of understanding my good Sir.

 

must do better.....

By the way Conrod, despite the huge amount of pi55 taking on here, we would openly invite any of you Frog Mobile boys to one of our meets. We base ourselves on like minded folks, not marques, so the welcome is always open

 

I know my car isn't the fastest and best handling. That's something I've learnt in the past......no matter what you drive, there's always some git out there with something faster!

Just banter from me to be honest. I love nice cars, all makes and models. I like the fact that people are so passionate about something that they are willing to argue it out with each other, makes life interesting.

Currently I own and drive a Subaru so I will defend it. If I sell it and buy something else I will defend that too!

 

It's 7K cheaper because as mentioned - no one wants to buy it, hence the discounts

I'd have more fun driving around in a Skoda Estelle 130 than a Renault AND less embarassing

How is the 250 dynamically a better car? You haven't managed to make me want to even test drive one

 

Where's Wayne btw??? He still hasn't edited his post the ****, despite being asked politely... maye he's disguising his car so he doesn't get spotted. although clearasil would probably be more effective

 

I sense a group hug coming on

 

I read on the Megane forum he is daaaan sarrfend tonight doing a 'look a like' DJ set ...Bass Munter IIRC

 

You first, you first!

 

Don't be scared of a bit of manly cuddling, the ESC colours are pink for a reason

 

Appreciated Dazza.

We are all passionate about cars, we choose to nail our colours to a different flag.

 

Like it sir. I can see the passion.

 

Dazza nails it everywhere

It's all good fun

 

That is £7K cheaper - list price, not discounted. BTW I don't sell motors for a living and trying to get a sale here. I have some morals.

Dynamically better because when you look at the numbers you flashed up, the Megane gets round a circuit quicker on less poke with a top chassis, suspension and LSD package.

 

No need chaps. I'm spent and topped out on my self-imposed post count.

It's been good trading some banter.

See you out where it really counts - on the road/circuit. Enjoy those Scoobs.

 

How can you not love a car that looks like that? I want one!

Budgie is well known for his one-liners. He is a man of little words, though most would not consider it a challenge for him

I think I'm warming to DipStick, sorry I mean Conrod

But I think he's gone & left us now......

Tiny, your task this weekend, should you choose to accept, is to find us another.......please!

 

..he'll be back with a scoob, dont worry.... next he'll be moving to essex and hanging out with us retrobates !! hehehhheh - all good fun !

 

Oh he must be coming back, Lin has a question for ya....


She has just watched the renault advert on tv and wants to know if your dad is a transvestite???

 

now that is so funny
i just said that to jackie about the advert
was going to post it but did not want to be hostile
fair play linfor always speaking your mind
dont forget the lingerie advertising daughter

 

the daughter in that is mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

now his gone and it's safe i quite like the twingo 133, the 197 cup and the older megane R26R i think i just love anything with 4 wheels and an engine but also love a bit of banter lol

 

It amazing how a litle trip to Lakeside can turn into to this lol.

 

Don`t let him ruffle your feathers mate...........................Oops did I say mate out loud.