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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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[quote=RA Dunk;9194919]Any time its not followed by B,stard or **** or anything offensive IE. the shortening of Pakistani refering to a group of people from Pakistan isnt being offensive

give me an example of a time in your life or any one you know when it was used in a not hatefull way



I know that, to be a Paki you need to come from Pakistan , and it's not me who's the dumbass at least I know the basics of using punctuation and a little bit of grammar and not "txt Spk"

if you dont like txt spk which some of you elders dont, why would you want to shorten words such as pakistani in to paki??
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Any time its not followed by B,stard or **** or anything offensive IE. the shortening of Pakistani refering to a group of people from Pakistan isnt being offensive

give me an example of a time in your life or any one you know when it was used in a not hatefull way



I know that, to be a Paki you need to come from Pakistan , and it's not me who's the dumbass at least I know the basics of using punctuation and a little bit of grammar and not "txt Spk"

if you dont like txt spk which some of you elders dont, why would you want to shorten words such as pakistani in to paki??
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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give me an example when it hasnt been used in an offensive way and you keep saying you lot not all asians are pakis you dumb *** wake up. and if some 1 wasnt even born in pakistan and had never been there how would they be a Paki explain that one aswell
I'll give you an example. Beside me, there is a local off licence that I go to which is owned by Pakistanis. Now while I wouldn't refer to them to their face as Pakis (not that sure they'd be insulted anyway, as I get on with them) when in the house if I was nipping up there, I'd say 'I'm just nipping to the pakis'. Just the same as if I was going up to the Chinese take away shop, I'd say going to the chinkies.

If I'm guilty of anything, it's being lazy, not racist. Just in the same way as saying I'm going to the chippy, instead of chip shop (or any other longer name for it). It's laziness/ shortening of a word for many people. Of course in some cases it is used with malice, and with ignorance (if you don't know where someone is from), but I think we all need to realise not everything is meant or said in that way all of the time.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:09 AM
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I'll give you an example. Beside me, there is a local off licence that I go to which is owned by Pakistanis. Now while I wouldn't refer to them to their face as Pakis (not that sure they'd be insulted anyway, as I get on with them) when in the house if I was nipping up there, I'd say 'I'm just nipping to the pakis'. Just the same as if I was going up to the Chinese take away shop, I'd say going to the chinkies.

If I'm guilty of anything, it's being lazy, not racist. Just in the same way as saying I'm going to the chippy, instead of chip shop (or any other longer name for it). It's laziness/ shortening of a word for many people. Of course in some cases it is used with malice, and with ignorance (if you don't know where someone is from), but I think we all need to realise not everything is meant or said in that way all of the time.
erm i think if you were to call a chinese a chinkie or a paki a paki to there face it would be diffrent but think they would mind even though u mite know them why dont u ask them and see what they say? and just so thers no confusion i ment that in a nice way
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
I'll give you an example. Beside me, there is a local off licence that I go to which is owned by Pakistanis. Now while I wouldn't refer to them to their face as Pakis (not that sure they'd be insulted anyway, as I get on with them) when in the house if I was nipping up there, I'd say 'I'm just nipping to the pakis'. Just the same as if I was going up to the Chinese take away shop, I'd say going to the chinkies.

If I'm guilty of anything, it's being lazy, not racist. Just in the same way as saying I'm going to the chippy, instead of chip shop (or any other longer name for it). It's laziness/ shortening of a word for many people. Of course in some cases it is used with malice, and with ignorance (if you don't know where someone is from), but I think we all need to realise not everything is meant or said in that way all of the time.
How exactly is Chinky the shortening of Chinese? Both are two syllables and saying the word Chinky isn't any shorter/easier than the word Chinese?!
"Fancy a Chinky?" "Fancy a Chinese?"

So with that in mind, why would one choose to use the more offensive word?
Fair enough, it's your home and you can say whatever you like, but would like your thoughts on this one.

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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Banny no offence intended but can you explain something to me please, a person from Scotland is called a Scot (short for Scotland obviously) a Person from Sweden is called a Swede (short for Sweden obviously) A person from Pakistan being called a Paki (short for Pakistan obviously) and its claimed to be deragotary, It's something I've never worked out before, why is this seemingly insulting as it's only the shortening of a name?
Think it's the context in which the term is used.
The word Paki is often used to insult anyone of Asian origin regardless of whether they are from Pakistan or not.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tee-
erm i think if you were to call a chinese a chinkie or a paki a paki to there face it would be diffrent but think they would mind even though u mite know them why dont u ask them and see what they say? and just so thers no confusion i ment that in a nice way
That maybe so, and being the way I am, I wouldn't use the term to their face, purely in case it did offend. I have respect for people and wouldn't want to cause offence, just as I don't think it's wrong to swear, but there are certain people I wouldn't swear around as it would or possibly may offend them.

You just asked for an example of when the term could be used without offence intended and I gave one.

To lloydee, I'm not sure why I use that term for chinese, maybe I just picked up on others referring to it that way, or it rolls off the tongue easier for some reason, but again, it's not a term I use in an offensive manner.
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...give me an example of a time in your life or any one you know when it was used in a not hatefull way...

Richie Benno: "the Pakis are coming up to bowl". Now wind your neck in!
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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You just asked for an example of when the term could be used without offence intended and I gave one.

i was asking for an example of a time when you would use the word Paki in front of an asian person. the fact that you use it at home arou nd your family doesnt prove anything same with the use of Chinky
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx

You just asked for an example of when the term could be used without offence intended and I gave one.

i was asking for an example of a time when you would use the word Paki in front of an asian person. the fact that you use it at home arou nd your family doesnt prove anything same with the use of Chinky
If I was stood with my black mates (and don't forget I'm a darkie myself ) and saw an Asian, specifically a drugged up Pakistani mug an old lady (of any race) I would say.... "Look at that ******* drugged up Paki!" before me and my brothers from other mothers.... unleashed some whoopass on him.

That seems reasonable to me.

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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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same **** different day
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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same **** different day
The same as the ******* who use the race card
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Originally Posted by mr_impreza
The same as the ******* who use the race card
and the ******* that come out with pointless comments
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tee-
and the ******* that come out with pointless comments
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