Parts of America kill people still with lethal injection but that dont stop the gang banging or sick fck.errrs over there If they going to do it they will some times drug runners are smack heads and are all ready dead men walking..

I would not step foot in that country or half of these other 3rd world contries they hang you for spitting on the floor.

 

First stop to the Jeremy Kyle studios then

 

With that throughput it may pay to actually build one there

 

easy money is probably a lot more tempting to a lot more people who are a lot poorer

 

Me thinks the lady protesteth too much.
Your posts on this thread have a rather imperialist odour to them and stink of the casual implied cultural superiority that goes with it.
Wouldn't you agree?
Perhaps you should read through them and in future be more guarded in what you may inadvertantly reveal of your character in your posts.
Anyway Martin 2005, I wouldn't worry too much about being a racist - modern behavioural science believes it to be a part of the human condition.

 

Exactly Paul, he was beyond 'learning difficulties' and would have been retarded in old money.

I fear that the time to exert influence on China has passed. We are their bitches now.

 

I was shocked to hear that a Brit called Akmal Shaikh has been executed in China for drug smuggling.

Where exactly in the middle east is 'Brit'?

 

i have been reading the comments on this page and tbh some of you are saying about his medical problems, which tbh i dont know anything about and dont claim too but at the end of the day he tried to smuggle drugs which there is a penalty by death, which is what happened i say its a congratulations to a justice system that works and sticks to its penalties. We need to not exactly follow suite but take some notes as were the only country to ban a person from driving who hasn't got a licence and give a jail term of 18 months for killing someone by running them over. At the end of the day he was nothing but a 2 bit crook who got caught.

 

born in Pakistan

 

I assume that the Pakistani Government were also busy wasting, whoops, I mean lobbying the Chinese for clemency?

They'll make any ****** British these days still it's good to know my hard earned taxes are working wonders by being wasted on Pakistani drug mules

 

Chip - what is my answer to the drug problem? Probably twofold. Legalise supply to existing addicts and then treat them; and control supply at source. Over 80% of the worlds opiates come from Afghanistan - eliminate supply at source the problem moves on. Legalise supply and heroin related deaths will fall over 90%. By removing the source and treating the addiction the illegal supply chain in between will be eradicated.

Les - do I condone recreational drug taking? At least as much as anyone posting on this thread drinks alcohol or smokes tobacco. Let he who doesn't throw the first stone...

...oh I don't do either so stones away

RA Dunk - no I don't think that drugs kill people. Corruption of drugs, uncontrolled dosing and the related environmental problems of being an addict are ALL killers, not really the drugs themselves. Heroin is FAR less damaging to the body than alcohol or nicotine.

Chip - if you go to Google you will be able to dig up plenty of research over decades that indicates that the death sentence has little or no preventative power. Look at Saudi, if you commit burglary your hands will be cut off in public. Pretty extreme but there are still burglars!

 

Sounds like he really had some problems, unfortunately the people who set him up in Poland probably knew about the penalties he might face, hence why they duped him into going.

Tip of the day, don't **** off the Chinese authorities 'cos they don't do clemancy.

 

One or two facts to spice things up...

...estimated daily heroin users in the UK - 270,000

...using around 120,000 kgs of heroin every year

...around 800 deaths

...one third are behavioural or environmental related

...one third due to uncontrolled dosing

...one third due to poisoning

...if heroin was legalised like alcohol or nicotine then most of these deaths would disappear overnight.

...4,600 tons of heroin is produced annually with around 4,000 tons coming from Afghanistan, the rest coming from Pakistan and Lao.


Alcohol directly kills 8,000 people a year with a significant multiple of that dying from secondary effects of using alcohol such as liver disease, car accidents etc.

To have one legal and one not is complete hypocrisy in my view.

 

For those struggling to grasp how wrong this is: Google mens rea.

China is a monster and we were so foolishly greedy for cheap rubber dogsh*t and other tat, that theyre now beyond our financial control. In fact, theyre our masters now.

 

You can never be 100% sure?

Sorry to burst your bubble mate, but you bloody well can.

Personally, i think they should have done this with people like Myra Hindley instead of what they did do. Just as an example.

There's too much value put on the lives of crap quite frankly, at the expense of others and that's just not acceptable.

The motto of the story is IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RESPONSE DON'T DO THE CRIME! simples.
Unfortunately some people do the right thing because they choose to, but there are others who do the right thing becuse they're forced to. Without that force you get HELL, which is where so called Britain is creaking towards.

Too many MPs and the like would face the same penalties down the line so no harsh changes.

 

Yes maybe there are still burglars, but I bet there would be many more if the sentences were less harsh.

Chip

 

I guess this is payback for the opium wars and forcing free trade....

 

killing immigrants? nice one adolf.

 

China is a monster? Who are they copying?
The same people who slag them off for being a Communist State are usually the same people then don't like them because they're financially becoming too powerful.
You don't like them when they are Communists, you don't like them when they act like Capitalists, they can't win can they.

Yet another country that the US and its wannabees don't like standing up for itself.
As for their not giving a stuff for anyone else, what exactly did Obama offer on behalf of the cough cough free world? turned up late, blew his nose and went home. We can all sleep better in our beds now.

 

Why not? One way of getting rid of the *******

 

Prison term is pretty short too

 

just on a point of order -- I presume DP means Death Penalty, I read it as something else on my first pass

anyway always wrong, whatever the circumstances

Although i except it is widely practiced amongst the civilized nations of the world such as

China
Iran
Iraq
America
Saudi Arabia
North Korea
Pakistan
Syria
Yemen
Burundi
Somalia
Sudan
Afghanistan

 

If they knew years ago what they know now about alcohol do you think it would have been legalised, I don't...

As for legailsig herione your not really doing much to stop the problem really are you, there will still be junkies they will still steal/mug/shoplift etc etc to fund there needs (unless your planning on keeping them all smacked/cracked for free Trout?), So even legailsing it isnt the answer IMO

As for treating addicts that dosent always work either, I have a cousin who is a junkie, he's been in rehab/clinic and six months in jail, first thing he did when he got out of jail (depite his rehabilitation program jail time etc etc) was sort him self out with a nice fix!, Some people dont want to be rehabilitated it's as simple as that and if they dont want to be rehabilitated then your pissing into the wind all the rehab in the world simply isnt going to work

Im all for the government sending out a load of dodgy **** onto the streets laced with cianide(sp?) and letting the ******* kill them selfs, problem solved

 

You mean to tell me that the terrorists who did the glasgow airport/london bus bombings didnt deserve to die although they were willing to take innocent civilian lives? fkuc sake man get a grip, any terrorist who trys to take a british civilian life in Britain deserves to die IMO

 

Based on what I've seen they were right to execute him. Shame we haven't the same law over here IMHO. What got me watching the news was the sheer one sidedness of the reporting. It sounded to me that we were all for clemency for this guy, I certainly wasn't and I'm sure the majority here weren't either.

 

Also, the politician on the news said he was mentally ill yet then said no proper tests were carried out to see if he was or wasn't

 

Sympathy, Non I have.

 

But what would legalising heroin achieve? . I know people compare taking drugs to drinking alcohol but I dont think you can compare them in any way. The vast majority of people who drink in this country are just casual drinkers whereas heroin is so highly addictive which is where the problem lies.

I know from first hand knowledge what damage hard drugs can do ,not only to the user but moreso to the people around them and it is devastating to see what it can do to people.

Chip

 

Alcohol is an addictive drug that can damage your brain, liver, kidneys, stomach and nervous system.

Opiates are addictive drugs that do not damage your brain, liver, kidneys and stomach, nervous system, or really do much damage at all.

You are right - no comparison.