stevie1982

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ronin but not trying to do you out of sale here but thought you were after 6 pots erchies are 4's, your choice i guess.

as for the ones on ebay i have beem emailing him, he assures me that the calipers / pistons / seals are in good condition with no weeping etc. i also got a price out of him to end the auction early which was £650 so if you wanted them think about and get prices for the cost of the

mounting barckets
new set of bolts
bells

and that all up and i am sure it will come to around the 900-1k mark for a set that is not designed soley for the impreza, the choice is yours mate

and happy biding !!!

ronin_hungary

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Hi Steve,

It is amazing, how closely the same our thought process is.

I did not want to disappoint erchie's search (hope not doing right now either), but after I posted "checking" I thought through the same as you did. This EVO kit is definitely way too expensive for being a bolt-on to my car, plus most likely the price will go up later on the auction.

As for Erchie's set. So far that is the most decent choice I/we have found. Unfortunately, no 6 pots anywhere on a decent price and/or decent condition. I keep on looking. I have looked at several other car calipers, but in the end the cost would add up (as in this case) to have a new(ish) Subaru specific set.

I wish I could win the lottery and buy a brand new set and get this over with, but as the economy is right now, it seems even Lottery goes bankrupt

Anyways, I keep my eye on a good set still. Most likely, if I do not find anything by around March, then I will have to wait another year (happened to see the same thing last year )

As I usually say, "things can take a totally different direction in just a split moment", I hope they will and they will for the good.

Cheers,

R.

erchie84

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Guy's no offence to me at all as I I'm searching anyway as I was I your position looking for 6 pots and ended up with the 4 pots now the problem is I'm always gonna want 6 pots just wished I had not been impatient and waited till the right kit was availiable

ronin_hungary

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Thanks mate for your searches and inputs.

Exactly the same thing I am worried about, if I get something that I can, instead of what I want, then might regret the decision later...

We'll see, might be both of us lucky and some AP dealer will be doing a "liquidation sale"...

Cheers,

R.

stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

ronin and erchie

you both are looking for a set of AP's and i am in the need of some as my 4 pots need new disks and i am looking at best part of £1000 to get the bigger 330mm disks fitted to the smaller 304mm calipers i have as the 304 kit just does not cut it on the track.

so i am going to approach a few companies regarding a NEW kit. if enough people are up for it this might make spending the money on a new kit worth while rather than spending £900 + on a used kit then replacing the bolts at cost and possible new disks as you cant always trust the seller to be honest of condition so if the price is lower enough on a group buy it may be worth that little bit extra over used.

here is the link to the GB pleas eput your names down and we can get thid started asap

https://www.scoobynet.com/group-buys...ml#post9211362

kind regards

steve

ronin_hungary

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Thanks Steve, it seems we can get started, we'll see if we get lucky.

Cheers,

R.

stevie1982

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we will see mate, i am waiting on some prices and lets hope there are some people who want to get on board if not i will have to buy new anyway as the 304 kit does not really cut it on the track. they are fine for day to day driving no problem with them but i have had them out on track and they dont do it for me, as i said i have looked onto the 330mm being fitted and by the time i have ahd brackets made, spacers made, bought the disks and bolts plus fitting its not far off £1k, i am only missing the calipers at that point and they are £460 each so then there will be another set of pads another set of bolts and the overall cost will be near on 2.5k inc labour so might as well but a new kit to start with.

the fact that you want some, erchie wants some there is 3 of us already so we should only need to find 2 more to get a discount. so will await the price and see if that drums up anymore intereset

ronin_hungary

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Until the Group Buy comes through, I still BTTT this, maybe I get lucky...

Cheers,

R.

ronin_hungary

iTrader: (6)

Still trying to find the ideal set...

Cheers,

R.

ronin_hungary

iTrader: (6)

After seeing RRP for a genuine kit, I think I will be still looking for used sets...

Cheers,

R.

stevie1982

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i take it you would not be up for one of ians kits at £1250 as far as i know the only difference would be his own disks and not original AP

ronin_hungary

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Not at the moment.
I do not have that much money. Nothing against Ian discs and all (though I have never tried them and for whatever reason I trust more the ones I have tried myself personally).

If I would have enough funds, I would get those without question, but I also have to think about shipping etc.

Maybe somebody buys my stuff I advertise on here in several topics, then no question I will participate in the group buy. I also thought about buying the calipers only for like less then 1000 GBP, but then again I would face the problems of mounting kits, discs etc.

Freakin' brakes are killing me. Stupid Subaru should have done nothing else but provide brakes with my car that are suitable...

Cheers,

R.

stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

Just picking your brains here but the caliper CP7040

how good are the suited to the classic and what disk size is best for them

cheers mate just trying to do some homework

ronin_hungary

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CP7040 is basically the 6 pot brother of CP6600 (4pot)
The design, the performance is pretty much the same level.
They are not the race proven versions of any caliper. Do not get me wrong they are great calipers, but you can imagine why they cost much less then the CP5570 or CP5200 respectively.

I have seen Carl Davey's setup running CP7040 calipers with 330mm discs, but no other setup like that ever since or before, because CP7040 was designed for 355-362 mm discs (18").

IMHO rather have a CP5200 4 pot setup over a 6 pot CP7040 w/330 mm discs.

Cheers,

R.

erchie84

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https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...ads-parts.html

Tell you what thats worth real consideration Kad 6 pots £600

Godspeed Brakes

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Carl Davey's brake kit is one of my 335mm kits running the 7040 calipers , the 7040 caliper is designed to fit UP TO a 363mm disc , it can also fit on a smaller disc as we have proven many many times with great success , the inside radius shape of the caliper will have a more open design that the 5200 calipers.

We have tested the 5200 caliper , against the 7040 caliper , and the 7040 calipers is far superior , it only stands to reason really as the pads are a lot bigger.

You are giving out incorrect info regarding the 6 pots , the 5570 , 5555 and 7040 calipers all have identical piston sizes , so will all work the same , one will not work better than another , yes the 7040 use a different pads shape , but then they are also half the price for DS2500's , £110 against £220 ,
The 5570 caliper is basically a 5555 calipers , but machined down to fit a thinner disc , it was brought about to fit into smaller gaps than a 330mm x 32mm disc would fit.
The 7040 caliper is a design that came about after Brembo bought out AP , and is a mass produced caliper which is why its cheaper , as there are variants of this caliper that are fitted to quite a few production cars , the dust sealing is much better on the 7040 caliper compaired to the 5555 and 5570's , the amount of times I have reconditioned these calipers , and they end up costing a fortune to replace pistons due to pitting on them as they are not fully covered in use like the 7040 calipers are.

The 7040 calipers would be my choice to fit over all of the ones mentioned , its also a bonus as they are also cheaper.

Cheers Ian

ronin_hungary

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I am not sure, where I have given out false information? (I am not saying I did not, but cannot see...)

I do not mean to **** you off or anything (most likely I already did ), because I know you understand brakes/work with them etc. However, to me the other calipers more sympathetic then the CP7040 and as I have stated it is my own opinion! nothing more, nothing less. I have seen/tested the CP6600 and CP5200 for instance and the CP5200 was far better in "real life" performance feel to me then the other. Fitting is better also etc.

Oh well, I guess I just have to stop relying on info given out on official websites...

With all respect...

Cheers,

R.

Godspeed Brakes

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HI
You have not pissed me off at all , I am just giving my idea's and experience over , you said the design and performance was the same level as the 4 and 6 pot calipers , this is incorrect , the 6 pots are a much better performing caliper

You say about the race proven calipers , with a race caliper you are trying to shed as much weight as possible and trying to make it as stiff as possible , there will always be a compromise there , the 6600 and 7040 calipers are slightly heavier , and stiffer as they have thicker walls , but the weight would never be an issue to any road car , you would never feel the difference in a million years driving your car. The benifits on the 7040 are the dust sealing , which is very important on a road car as you want them to be as reliable as you can , race / rally cars get stripped very often , so you dont need them to last.

I have seen a lot of 5200 , 5570 and 5555 calipers to recondition that needed new pistons , when the pistons are about £30 each , it gets very expensive , it will never happen with the 6600 and 7040 because of the superior dust sealing.

Cheers Ian

ronin_hungary

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Got your point.

How about the thickness issue regarding 330/335 mm discs mated with CP7040 calipers?

Also I have read here that for 330 discs CP5200 should be used (though it is 4 piston, no?) 6 Piston Calipers - CP7040 Family - Suits Ø362x32mm Disc - 16.8mm Thick Pad

You might actually convince me about changing my mind to go for a CP7040 kit. (Does not happen often, pretty stubborn on things )

Cheers,

R.

Godspeed Brakes

iTrader: (259)

The discs we fit with the 7040 calipers to fit under 17" wheels are 335mm x 32mm
Cheers Ian

ronin_hungary

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Maybe it is a stupid question, but could you tell me the price for the following:

CP7040 Competition Grey coloured calipers
Classic mounting brackets for the above
2 piece disks for the above
appropriate pad set for the above

I am pretty sure it is out of my price range, but I might start to buy bits and pieces from you, as I have some money is coming in...

Cheers,

R.

stevie1982

iTrader: (16)

Ian's kit is £1250 he has posted in the group buy, best price by far as I have had nothing back at all from other AP sellers.

ronin_hungary

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I did not realize that it was with CP7040, but now looking at it again, makes sense why that kit has 32mm discs...

Cheers,

R.

ps.: Let's hope I can sell a couple stuff and maybe I can have a new kit.

ronin_hungary

iTrader: (6)

Questions to Ian (I have sent PMs but they did not work for some reason)

1. Can the Genuine AP Racing CP7040 mounting brackets be modified to suit 330 mm discs?
2. Can the Genuine AP Racing 355 mm disc mounting bells be re-used with 330 mm brake "rings"?

Else:
My mate is looking for a killer pad/disc combo for his MY04 Gold Brembo, can you give me a good price on that?

Please let me know.

Cheers,

R.

ronin_hungary

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Waiting for answers...

Cheers,

R.