The Good guys don't die young here, they just get banned!
16 November 2009, 11:25 PM
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Although I'm not privvy to his rantings in the "other" place
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16 November 2009, 11:36 PM
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how can you 'un-apologise' if you cant even post on the forum ?
you mean someone would have to email the guy personally?Or at very least create a dummy/alias account and cow-tow? and how many would do that, not just to Stu, but to any mod /admin of any site? Ive never known it in any of the years moderating on any forums ive had the priviledge( loosely worded term) to be involved with .
And you as well as I know the character that was 'Gene' would hardly be one to go cap in hand...
you mean someone would have to email the guy personally?Or at very least create a dummy/alias account and cow-tow? and how many would do that, not just to Stu, but to any mod /admin of any site? Ive never known it in any of the years moderating on any forums ive had the priviledge( loosely worded term) to be involved with .
And you as well as I know the character that was 'Gene' would hardly be one to go cap in hand...
16 November 2009, 11:43 PM
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Pontificating
PSL is part of the fabric .... has been since the very first 'Gay Gold Wheel' post way back in June 2000 - that was when it bacame clear that some people take life a tad too serious and a great amount of fun could be extracted from that simple fact.
But, alas, he is no longer a wind-up chappie ..... but a steady, reliable, upright member of the SN Community.
But, alas, he is no longer a wind-up chappie ..... but a steady, reliable, upright member of the SN Community.
16 November 2009, 11:47 PM
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There's no need to go cap in hand entirely.
There isn't necessarily a need to say you never felt a certain way, just in the heat of the moment, then looking back, the complaint(s) could have been phrased better.
Just to back down on how a situation was handled, doesn't mean you back down on an opinion. I guess it really depends on what exactly went on, and more importantly, if 'Gene' is that bothered about coming back.
He would really need to set up an appeal account/alternative account to do it, I'd think that would be the easiest way.
There isn't necessarily a need to say you never felt a certain way, just in the heat of the moment, then looking back, the complaint(s) could have been phrased better.
Just to back down on how a situation was handled, doesn't mean you back down on an opinion. I guess it really depends on what exactly went on, and more importantly, if 'Gene' is that bothered about coming back.
He would really need to set up an appeal account/alternative account to do it, I'd think that would be the easiest way.
16 November 2009, 11:53 PM
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There's no need to go cap in hand entirely.
There isn't necessarily a need to say you never felt a certain way, just in the heat of the moment, then looking back, the complaint(s) could have been phrased better.
Just to back down on how a situation was handled, doesn't mean you back down on an opinion. I guess it really depends on what exactly went on, and more importantly, if 'Gene' is that bothered about coming back.
He would really need to set up an appeal account/alternative account to do it, I'd think that would be the easiest way.
There isn't necessarily a need to say you never felt a certain way, just in the heat of the moment, then looking back, the complaint(s) could have been phrased better.
Just to back down on how a situation was handled, doesn't mean you back down on an opinion. I guess it really depends on what exactly went on, and more importantly, if 'Gene' is that bothered about coming back.
He would really need to set up an appeal account/alternative account to do it, I'd think that would be the easiest way.
its just a shame that some of the older/funnier/wiser/wittier users are Persona Non Gratis here these days..
16 November 2009, 11:55 PM
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Could somebody please tell me why folk are getting banned?
I know that we fall out from time to time but I don't understand what is going on with all this banning, I know I'm not in the SN 'circle of trust' but I'm confused by this and other similar threads
I know that we fall out from time to time but I don't understand what is going on with all this banning, I know I'm not in the SN 'circle of trust' but I'm confused by this and other similar threads
16 November 2009, 11:56 PM
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how can you 'un-apologise' if you cant even post on the forum ?
you mean someone would have to email the guy personally?Or at very least create a dummy/alias account and cow-tow? and how many would do that, not just to Stu, but to any mod /admin of any site? Ive never known it in any of the years moderating on any forums ive had the priviledge( loosely worded term) to be involved with .
And you as well as I know the character that was 'Gene' would hardly be one to go cap in hand...
you mean someone would have to email the guy personally?Or at very least create a dummy/alias account and cow-tow? and how many would do that, not just to Stu, but to any mod /admin of any site? Ive never known it in any of the years moderating on any forums ive had the priviledge( loosely worded term) to be involved with .
And you as well as I know the character that was 'Gene' would hardly be one to go cap in hand...
Cap in hand you say: Live by the sword die by the sword.
Your right though, an apology is a rare thing. But if someone is willing to step back, look at what they posted and the language they used (of which is probably deleted
) and admit that they went too far. Then that person will gain a hell of alot more respect and admiration than someone who skulks around using alias accounts to troll in petty spiteIt takes someone with integrity to apologise and rebuild bridges and to try meet common ground. Something that is just not in some people's nature.
(I think its a male dominance thing; Probably some instinct dating back to when we were cavemen or something when disputes were settled by headbutting each other).
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16 November 2009, 11:59 PM
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We do allow appeal accounts (the method of appeals is stated in the rules): but using it to post on the forum and carry on a vendetta will just pave the way to a extended ban.
Cap in hand you say: Live by the sword die by the sword.
Your right though, an apology is a rare thing. But if someone is willing to step back, look at what they posted and the language they used (of which is probably deleted ) and admit that they went too far. Then that person will gain a hell of alot more respect and admiration than someone who skulks around using alias accounts to troll in petty spite
It takes someone with integrity to apologise and rebuild bridges and to try meet common ground. Something that is just not in some people's nature.
(I think its a male dominance thing; Probably some instinct dating back to when we were cavemen or something when disputes were settled by headbutting each other).
Cap in hand you say: Live by the sword die by the sword.
Your right though, an apology is a rare thing. But if someone is willing to step back, look at what they posted and the language they used (of which is probably deleted
) and admit that they went too far. Then that person will gain a hell of alot more respect and admiration than someone who skulks around using alias accounts to troll in petty spiteIt takes someone with integrity to apologise and rebuild bridges and to try meet common ground. Something that is just not in some people's nature.
(I think its a male dominance thing; Probably some instinct dating back to when we were cavemen or something when disputes were settled by headbutting each other).
17 November 2009, 12:04 AM
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17 November 2009, 12:05 AM
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chaos reigned for a while, the keyboard Ninjas had a field day.
theres been a lot of changes to this board in the few years Ive been around, not all of them for the good.
17 November 2009, 12:05 AM
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Thanks Lisa , although using 'Gene' as an example, I really doubt he would last too long over here now anyway, theres too many he's upset that would have his card marked so would only be a matter of time..
its just a shame that some of the older/funnier/wiser/wittier users are Persona Non Gratis here these days..
its just a shame that some of the older/funnier/wiser/wittier users are Persona Non Gratis here these days..
I still will never understand why people find other people they don't 'like' so hard to ignore, as opposed to getting upset by them so much. It also amuses me that some people will get all het up about what someone posts (that they don't like), but also want total freedom of speech. SN can be a funny place at times. So long as some respect is shown, each to their own.
I can't speak for older posters, as I will be honest and say I genuinely don't know all the ins and outs. Some will probably jump on that and think I'm a bad mod, hopefully it just makes me impartial.
As for 'Gene', if he wants to come back, then all I can suggest is he maybe contacts Stu, and merely says he could have gone about things better.
17 November 2009, 12:08 AM
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I had this pictured in my mind when I typed it: Dailymotion - Il Gene Simpson - a Film & TV video
(Sorry about the Italian; google couldn't find an english one: probably vaped by Fox
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17 November 2009, 12:13 AM
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As a consequence I was 1 point off a ban at one point.
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17 November 2009, 12:21 AM
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I like to think I can have a good honest argument without being infracted or banned.
17 November 2009, 12:22 AM
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Lisa, You'r far from a bad mod
Ali.. you bad boy you.. then again, from a Muppet to a Puppet.. way to go
and up till this point, Ive not been banned. (although i guess im becoming an irritant , keep asking questions, no?.. but then, if places like Muppets was the hive of activity it once was, i wouldnt venture out into Gen or Policy, Id be too busy wibbling )
Ali.. you bad boy you.. then again, from a Muppet to a Puppet.. way to go
and up till this point, Ive not been banned. (although i guess im becoming an irritant , keep asking questions, no?.. but then, if places like Muppets was the hive of activity it once was, i wouldnt venture out into Gen or Policy, Id be too busy wibbling )
17 November 2009, 12:27 AM
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Lisa, You'r far from a bad mod
Ali.. you bad boy you.. then again, from a Muppet to a Puppet.. way to go
and up till this point, Ive not been banned. (although i guess im becoming an irritant , keep asking questions, no?.. but then, if places like Muppets was the hive of activity it once was, i wouldnt venture out into Gen or Policy, Id be too busy wibbling )
Ali.. you bad boy you.. then again, from a Muppet to a Puppet.. way to go
and up till this point, Ive not been banned. (although i guess im becoming an irritant , keep asking questions, no?.. but then, if places like Muppets was the hive of activity it once was, i wouldnt venture out into Gen or Policy, Id be too busy wibbling )
You're not irritating, there is nothing wrong with questions.
I have loads, but mine are usually stupid.
I'd say we should try and get muppets going again, but I never had a clue what was going on.
Oh and thanks hun.
17 November 2009, 12:29 AM
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Muppets is dead.. even if it were ressurected, it would never be the same, too much water under the bridge now, theres too many Ex Mupps on Life Bans, so it would never work the way it used to.. as for having a clue what Mupps was about, did anyone?
*and, you'r welcome
*and, you'r welcome
17 November 2009, 12:37 AM
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Muppets is dead.. even if it were ressurected, it would never be the same, too much water under the bridge now, theres too many Ex Mupps on Life Bans, so it would never work the way it used to.. as for having a clue what Mupps was about, did anyone?
*and, you'r welcome
*and, you'r welcome
Hope you loked my wibble smilie.
(pinched that off the Midlands crew)
17 November 2009, 01:44 PM
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17 November 2009, 01:46 PM
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*Mod hat on*
I'm citing Martin, just to orientate my post; the following is not directed at him.
You can: no one is ever infracted JUST for having an opinion.
All we ask is that you put it over in a civil manner i.e. don't insult or be abusive/disrespectful to others.
It's a two way street: if you want to be able to express your views without getting flamed, you have to be prepared to let others express theirs and extend them the same courtesy.
If you start getting nasty, whether it's directed at the webteam, or other members of the BBS, and you wind up in hot water.....well, we're not gonna have much sympathy for you really!
If that's your bag, might I suggest Youtube?
Ali has already said it, but if you live by the sword, you die by it!