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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrNoisy
That's about 429ft/lbs, which seems very impressive for a 2.0! Must be the E85!
Well it moves like a beast!
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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You're being modest Tom...

When I had mine mapped at SC, the difference between the ATW and the corrected ATFW figures dictated, precisely lol, 20.79% worth of losses.

So if you apply that factor to your 400.7 bhp, then it equates to 400.7 / 0.7921 = 505.9 bhp ATW!!

Similarly, your ATW torque of 503.2 Nm (371.1 lb ft) = 635.3Nm (468.6 lb ft) ATFW.


I know there are so many factors when it comes to correcting for the FW... But at least you can think you have those great figures. lol


But, regardless of a set of numbers, it's the real world driving and the veritable Cheshire Cat-like grin that REEEEALLY matters, eh?

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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
You're being modest Tom...

When I had mine mapped at SC, the difference between the ATW and the corrected ATFW figures dictated, precisely lol, 20.79% worth of losses.

So if you apply that factor to your 400.7 bhp, then it equates to 400.7 / 0.7921 = 505.9 bhp ATW!!

Similarly, your ATW torque of 503.2 Nm (371.1 lb ft) = 635.3Nm (468.6 lb ft) ATFW.


I know there are so many factors when it comes to correcting for the FW... But at least you can think you have those great figures. lol


But, regardless of a set of numbers, it's the real world driving and the veritable Cheshire Cat-like grin that REEEEALLY matters, eh?
It's the grin that matters!

Got plenty of torque at 4200rpm and it is lots of fun!!
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Those Rototest figures are measured at the hubs with wheels off so I think traditional rollers give more drivetrain loss? I have also used 16% (different swedish tuner also with rototest) which gave me 370 HP on a VF28 on E85. I don't think that much more would be realistic on a stock VF28.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbovin
Those Rototest figures are measured at the hubs with wheels off so I think traditional rollers give more drivetrain loss? I have also used 16% (different swedish tuner also with rototest) which gave me 370 HP on a VF28 on E85. I don't think that much more would be realistic on a stock VF28.
330 at the fly is about the limit for the VF28, on SUL.

So 370 on E85 sound about right -- but that's still an amazing result though!

You've got the best of all worlds: decent top end (what with the 370bhp)... From a super-spooling 'little' VF28 turbo!

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 10:33 PM
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This arrived today, I can't wait to see what the SC50 twin scroll with the modified cold side inlet can do on my Spec C.

Results will probably be available in early February and will be mapped by Martyn down at Enginetuner.
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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I bet you're champing at the bit, what?!
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
I bet you're champing at the bit, what?!
You could say that, I'm a little apprehensive about using this turbo on a 2.0 engine but a little meth should help with the spool.

I think it'll require a little change of driving style, but as has been said 'If you have lag then you're in the wrong gear'.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Totes.

That's what a gearbox is for (although sometimes one's not in the mood for stirring - it's the age lol).

But once it's on boost, boy will you know it!
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
You could say that, I'm a little apprehensive about using this turbo on a 2.0 engine but a little meth should help with the spool.

I think it'll require a little change of driving style, but as has been said 'If you have lag then you're in the wrong gear'.
If your anything like me Ty, You will be used to changing gear all the time with the JDM box, I always seem to be looking for 7th
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Totes.

That's what a gearbox is for (although sometimes one's not in the mood for stirring - it's the age lol).

But once it's on boost, boy will you know it!
Originally Posted by GAZ2293
If your anything like me Ty, You will be used to changing gear all the time with the JDM box, I always seem to be looking for 7th
I really like the ratios on the JDM transmissions, they really allow you to keep the car on the boil very easily.

I know what you mean about wanting a 7th gear but I thought overall the gearing worked out pretty similar between JDM and UK overall drive ratios, maybe the UK maybe slightly higher but not by much.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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anyone got a graph for a sc42 billet twin scroll on a 2.5?
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
anyone got a graph for a sc42 billet twin scroll on a 2.5?
Nearest I have seen is big fuds 2.1
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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mm, i bet theres on on this hooge thread somewhere lol
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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Any results on the gt30 + billet with a .82 housing need a turbo for a 2:5 cdb
Ta Neil
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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SC42+ 2.1 stroker, 1.9bar boost on 20% meth 485bhp-510 ft trq

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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SC42+ 2.1 stroker, 1.9bar boost on 20% meth 485bhp-510 ft trq

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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Hi,

is the above Fuds car ??

cheers
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 11:53 AM
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I believe it is Kev.
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Hi,

is the above Fuds car ??

cheers
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Hi Kev yep its the BO53 fud's car
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Kev,

Are the SC32s in yet?

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
SC42+ 2.1 stroker, 1.9bar boost on 20% meth 485bhp-510 ft trq

Nice results
What is the green line ? V power only ?

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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The green line is my previous sc42 452-460

New one as you can see beats it at every point.Early boost,More power,More trq
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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mm, i bet theres on on this hooge thread somewhere lol

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Fud how you like twin scroll ? Great result who did your build ?
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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Fud how you like twin scroll ? Great result who did your build ?

I love twin scroll's they are the one. I built the engine buddy with the support of pole position and matty b.
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG FUD
I love twin scroll's they are the one.
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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Would love to be able to rebuild my self . Would you not of trusted standard internals to that level ?
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sonic93
Would love to be able to rebuild my self . Would you not of trusted standard internals to that level ?
No way not how i drive You might get a map showing 450-450 on standard spec c but full on racing wont last
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