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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Well I didn't make up the figures - they are printed and easy to find. Although I doubt you have the brains to find them.

Nice move - look a complete **** in an argument so resort to the lamest of retorts - you must have a small ****.

Good job you aren't a lawyer seeing as you couldn't win a debate with a three year old.

You have a chavvy old WRX with the usual "baz" accessories. It's last decades news - hence tragic sales and a firm likelihood Subaru will actually go bust now. If anyone wants a proper rally rep, they go to Mitsubishi. It's like a failed rock star harping on about the good old times.

Utterly sad, utterly pointless but on reflection, actually quite funny.
hmmmmmmm, methinks the lady protesteth too much.
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Hmmm - I think someone can't even quote Shakespeare properly.
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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and besides that battemoy, if subaru's are old hats and have tragedy in their sails, why do you keep coming here? are you lonely?
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Hmmm - I think someone can't even quote Shakespeare properly.
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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and besides that battemoy, if subaru's are old hats and have tragedy in their sails, why do you keep coming here? are you lonely?
not that i'm offering to make you un-lonely, i aint no battyboy, matteboy.
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Children !!!
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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sorry dad
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Same old same old...

Funny to the outsider, annoying for the OP...
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Bruntingthorpe lap times:

BMW 335d - 1m 22.7
Subaru Impreza WRX - 1m 30.30 CONSIDERABLY slower than a mk5 Golf GTi with FWD and utterly slayed by a Renault Megane R26.R - so 4WD gets killed by less powerful FWD - did you mention something about a good chassis...?

Now run along Gallio, there's a good lad. There's a Nova 1.2 wanting a race.
In the interest of fairness I should point out that the WRX time was in the wet, and the Sti managed 1.22.4 (07 model). The R26 also beat the 335d and the Sti.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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The 335d time is mightily impressive though, especially when compared to the 335i.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Getting back on track. The X1 isnt a looker is it. A friend of mine is a detailer that works for BMW and he's prepared a few of these X1 now. He told me that paint is awful, very thin, and lots of cars are coming to them damaged and have rushed fixup jobs.

I do agree that the X3 is a bit pointless, but Im sure there's a market for it, although I wont be one of them. Looking at the prices of these X1's , when fully specc'ed up, well you really do need to sit down and ask yourself whether its worth it, or perhaps a a year old RRS / RR / etc etc.

Whatever the case, if you've ordered one then fair play, its a free world, and nothing beats that new car smell / purchase, so enjoy :-)

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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MattW
In the interest of fairness I should point out that the WRX time was in the wet, and the Sti managed 1.22.4 (07 model). The R26 also beat the 335d and the Sti.
The R26.R lap times are absolutely amazing - just seems to be near invincible on the track. The Focus RS does well on the track too.

I do occasionally question lap times though - yes it was a wet time but the R500 Caterham gets beaten by the 335d and even a Mazda 3 MPS!!!

And my old R32 Golf beat (ahem) an SL55 AMG Merc on the Top Gear track...
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon K

I do agree that the X3 is a bit pointless, but Im sure there's a market for it, although I wont be one of them. Looking at the prices of these X1's , when fully specc'ed up, well you really do need to sit down and ask yourself whether its worth it, or perhaps a a year old RRS / RR / etc etc.

Whatever the case, if you've ordered one then fair play, its a free world, and nothing beats that new car smell / purchase, so enjoy :-)

SBK
Can you gat a 1 year old RR or RRS TDV8 for the price of a new X1?

They are 2 different car though. One being a small SUV that will be cheap to run/insure/maintain, while the RRS is 2.5 Tonnes of very big metal that'll cost a small fortune to run/insure/maintain.

Plus new, you get the 3 year warranty. Second hand you don't. Not a problem for some people, but I personally like having a warranty backed car.

Will seriously consider one of these next spring/summer. Just have to decide if I could justify the extra expense of the 23d over the 20d.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Stilover - drive both. The 20d unit is very accomplished, frugal and low on emissions. The 23d unit is simply bloody brilliant. Twin turbos really help the main issue with soot chuckers - that PITA lack of low rev oomph.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Guys,

As the op of this can you please argue elswhere, i was only asking opinion about a car on a car forum.

However actually saw one today at the BMW garage in Hamilton and i do not like it, there is something missing as it to small to be a off roader and to big to be a car, confused,lol

However they have a prestige car section and its full of RS4, Ferrari,Bentley, One GTR and loads of Overfinch RRS. i was there for ages drooling like a kid.

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