B7 RS4 - Vs. GT-R - help needed!!
20 October 2009, 06:34 PM
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Well mate..... Just curious..... have ya made a decision on your dilemma yet ?????????
Guess what.... I have the EXACT same dilemma and don't know what to do also.....
Wish you well which ever way you decide to go, and at the end of the day they are both great cars albeit in slightly different ways. lol
Ricky !
Guess what.... I have the EXACT same dilemma and don't know what to do also.....
Wish you well which ever way you decide to go, and at the end of the day they are both great cars albeit in slightly different ways. lol
Ricky !
20 October 2009, 07:35 PM
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27 October 2009, 01:22 PM
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Ouch - have started seeing the first claims coming in for the GTR's now.
New bumper/splitter/intercooler..... £11.5k (intercoolers are £4.5k each!!!)
New gearbox - £28k
New bumper/splitter/intercooler..... £11.5k (intercoolers are £4.5k each!!!)
New gearbox - £28k
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27 October 2009, 01:44 PM
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27 October 2009, 03:09 PM
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Yeah in fairness they pulled the service around after a bad start, got the car back to me ahead of schedule and after a quick moan conformed to what my expectations of the service were!.....end of the day i've got my baby back and am a happy punter once again!
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27 October 2009, 08:02 PM
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How does Nissan justify these sort of costs when they are usually associated with hyper cars? That's why most people don't run hyper cars even if they could afford the initial (second hand) purchase price
27 October 2009, 08:22 PM
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That is true but I think the whole GTR culture and interest in modifying will soon lead to new and more financially economical routes moving forward that in turn will reduce the burden of what would otherwise be costly bills, if not then I still maintain (cheesy sales voice on) you have to pay to play and these motors have to be right up there in both bang for buck and smiles per mile!!
Have you driven one yet Deep?
Have you driven one yet Deep?
27 October 2009, 09:14 PM
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I know its genuinely unbelievable but my local Nissan dealer told me that the rear diffuser / under tray, or whatever its rightly named costs 10 grand !!!! I find it very hard to believe but thats what he told me......
He also told me that Nissan were quoting the car to be worth 68% of its original value after three years...... cant believe that either cause I think what Deep Singh said will be very true.... who would buy one when its warranty expires !!!!
Still would like one though.... lol
He also told me that Nissan were quoting the car to be worth 68% of its original value after three years...... cant believe that either cause I think what Deep Singh said will be very true.... who would buy one when its warranty expires !!!!
Still would like one though.... lol
28 October 2009, 05:25 PM
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So we have a new engine at 28k, new gearbox at 12.5k, new bumper/splitter/IC at 11.5k and a rear diffuser at 10k.
That adds up to 62k just for that little lot LOL
That adds up to 62k just for that little lot LOL
28 October 2009, 06:28 PM
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Yoza I'd put yours on Ebay and make a tidy sum, lol
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28 October 2009, 06:38 PM
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28 October 2009, 06:53 PM
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28 October 2009, 06:55 PM
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So now that the truth is out there, the porsche is after all the better car. Less likely to break, and when it does, it doesnt cost half the budget somalia have allocated to their education system.
28 October 2009, 08:03 PM
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That is true but I think the whole GTR culture and interest in modifying will soon lead to new and more financially economical routes moving forward that in turn will reduce the burden of what would otherwise be costly bills, if not then I still maintain (cheesy sales voice on) you have to pay to play and these motors have to be right up there in both bang for buck and smiles per mile!!
Have you driven one yet Deep?
Have you driven one yet Deep?
I haven't driven one yet, but have to admit I've had the odd impulse when I've woken up one morning and thought about buying one. Then I read the sorts of costs mentioned here and I think no way. As I said I do understand the pay to play concept, I've driven gp20 cars for years and my current car averages 11mpg, but the GTR seems to be on another planet.
There is also the issue of what the truth is, I'm confused. Someone like Moley (who is in the trade) gives some prices, others say its a myth. I was equally confused by the servicing costs.
Thing is this really, the whole point of the GTR is to have 997 turbo performance for less money. If however you are going to spend the difference over the years on servicing/repairs etc then hey, might as well buy the 997 turbo in the first place.
Don't get me wrong though, you own a fantastic car, no doubt.
28 October 2009, 08:03 PM
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PovK1, tell that to my two (and only two non-intarweb Porsche owning) friends with broken engines.
Deep, for most people it doesn't seem too bad. I don't lie awake at night worrying about running costs and will not pay main dealer prices where I can avoid it.
Deep, for most people it doesn't seem too bad. I don't lie awake at night worrying about running costs and will not pay main dealer prices where I can avoid it.
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28 October 2009, 08:31 PM
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Will you continue to own the GTR once its out of warranty? Those prices are truly shocking.
28 October 2009, 10:21 PM
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Those are main dealer prices, I would not repair my gearbox at a main dealer if I had to pay for it though.
Engine is trickier since Nissan don't sell the parts, only complete engines and only I believe to dealers.
The failure rate is low though, a fraction of 1% of US transmissions have failed despite them having a launch control that has now been detuned. More have had the sort of solenoid problem that alloy had. One engine has failed in Europe due to an oil seal that affected early LHD build cars. One engine has failed in Australia whilst being developed by Haltech with various rumours of the cause - either very high output or downshift software fault. I get to hear about most of the faults as I work with quite a few aftermarket suppliers, which also gives me contacts if I have a failure, which I hope I won't.
Bottom line is that the ability of the GTR stock or tuned is hilarious, and also IMHO a bargain. Price increases of more than £10k with the VAT change and GBP/JPY are rumoured for next year too.
If you haven't been in one, especially if you get chance to go in one with good tuning, do because you'll find any way you can to get one, or don't because you'll never be happy with almost any other sanely priced performance car ever again.
Engine is trickier since Nissan don't sell the parts, only complete engines and only I believe to dealers.
The failure rate is low though, a fraction of 1% of US transmissions have failed despite them having a launch control that has now been detuned. More have had the sort of solenoid problem that alloy had. One engine has failed in Europe due to an oil seal that affected early LHD build cars. One engine has failed in Australia whilst being developed by Haltech with various rumours of the cause - either very high output or downshift software fault. I get to hear about most of the faults as I work with quite a few aftermarket suppliers, which also gives me contacts if I have a failure, which I hope I won't.
Bottom line is that the ability of the GTR stock or tuned is hilarious, and also IMHO a bargain. Price increases of more than £10k with the VAT change and GBP/JPY are rumoured for next year too.
If you haven't been in one, especially if you get chance to go in one with good tuning, do because you'll find any way you can to get one, or don't because you'll never be happy with almost any other sanely priced performance car ever again.
28 October 2009, 11:03 PM
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Those are main dealer prices, I would not repair my gearbox at a main dealer if I had to pay for it though.
Engine is trickier since Nissan don't sell the parts, only complete engines and only I believe to dealers.
The failure rate is low though, a fraction of 1% of US transmissions have failed despite them having a launch control that has now been detuned. More have had the sort of solenoid problem that alloy had. One engine has failed in Europe due to an oil seal that affected early LHD build cars. One engine has failed in Australia whilst being developed by Haltech with various rumours of the cause - either very high output or downshift software fault. I get to hear about most of the faults as I work with quite a few aftermarket suppliers, which also gives me contacts if I have a failure, which I hope I won't.
Bottom line is that the ability of the GTR stock or tuned is hilarious, and also IMHO a bargain. Price increases of more than £10k with the VAT change and GBP/JPY are rumoured for next year too.
If you haven't been in one, especially if you get chance to go in one with good tuning, do because you'll find any way you can to get one, or don't because you'll never be happy with almost any other sanely priced performance car ever again.
Engine is trickier since Nissan don't sell the parts, only complete engines and only I believe to dealers.
The failure rate is low though, a fraction of 1% of US transmissions have failed despite them having a launch control that has now been detuned. More have had the sort of solenoid problem that alloy had. One engine has failed in Europe due to an oil seal that affected early LHD build cars. One engine has failed in Australia whilst being developed by Haltech with various rumours of the cause - either very high output or downshift software fault. I get to hear about most of the faults as I work with quite a few aftermarket suppliers, which also gives me contacts if I have a failure, which I hope I won't.
Bottom line is that the ability of the GTR stock or tuned is hilarious, and also IMHO a bargain. Price increases of more than £10k with the VAT change and GBP/JPY are rumoured for next year too.
If you haven't been in one, especially if you get chance to go in one with good tuning, do because you'll find any way you can to get one, or don't because you'll never be happy with almost any other sanely priced performance car ever again.
