ECUTek vs Simtek
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Thanks for all the comments, the debate and subsequent opinions are very interesting.
I have spoken offline with simon@jollygreenmonster.co.uk and will continue to work closely with him and follow his recommendations, the proof has been in the pudding and I have not had a map that I was less than delighted with in what is 4years now I think.
I have also consistantly made or exceeded the power and torque levels I have been expecting.
Thanks again.
The reason why I thought about the Ecutek route is primarily the cost, licensed ECUs can be had now from £100, the reason behind Simtek was because I had one in my RA track car and the reason behind the powerFC was that the commander has saved me on a few ocasions (at least once with a failed maf on a 99 that I was able to adjust sufficiently to get home with Simon's technical support and the commander unit).
I was questioning whether anything substantial had changed in the past 4 years that I wasn't aware of and yes, I could have just bypassed this thread and asked Simon, but its always fun to get the opinions of the public.
I have spoken offline with simon@jollygreenmonster.co.uk and will continue to work closely with him and follow his recommendations, the proof has been in the pudding and I have not had a map that I was less than delighted with in what is 4years now I think.
I have also consistantly made or exceeded the power and torque levels I have been expecting.
Thanks again.
The reason why I thought about the Ecutek route is primarily the cost, licensed ECUs can be had now from £100, the reason behind Simtek was because I had one in my RA track car and the reason behind the powerFC was that the commander has saved me on a few ocasions (at least once with a failed maf on a 99 that I was able to adjust sufficiently to get home with Simon's technical support and the commander unit).
I was questioning whether anything substantial had changed in the past 4 years that I wasn't aware of and yes, I could have just bypassed this thread and asked Simon, but its always fun to get the opinions of the public.
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My fuelling has went up the left recently and the cold start is a bit irratic, I also get a lot of backfiring when driving normally, this has all started after my last remap. I also have a fuelling problem which I'm putting down to the fuel pump(walbro) as my AFR is going lean(enough to cause 15degrees of Knock correction) after 6500rpm.
I cant see it as a mapper problem as Andy F done it and has done in the past.
Andy told me the ECU had been flashed over 20 times before he touched it. My car is now currently being used as an everyday runabout and its so annoying.
Fitting a SimTek and a new fuel pump next week, hopefully it improves the driveability.
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£895 RRP (+ VAT)
£150 +VAT for ALS/LC added.
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Thats awesome, I was going to use PowerFC.
But this sounds much better, make PowerFC sound quite dated from whats been said.
I wish all these cool parts would stop popping up, I cant help myself, Lol
But this sounds much better, make PowerFC sound quite dated from whats been said.
I wish all these cool parts would stop popping up, I cant help myself, Lol
It certainly makes sense NOW to go Simtek...
As the current climate and rubbish $/£ rate means that, even 2nd hand, PFC can be about the same price (when you add in the mapping cost on top).
Even if you bought a PFC off Simon brand new, you're only saving £115 over the Simtek. Simtek defo worth that £115 difference what with its dual maps, MAFless, etc...
As the current climate and rubbish $/£ rate means that, even 2nd hand, PFC can be about the same price (when you add in the mapping cost on top).
Even if you bought a PFC off Simon brand new, you're only saving £115 over the Simtek. Simtek defo worth that £115 difference what with its dual maps, MAFless, etc...
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Is this true????
My fuelling has went up the left recently and the cold start is a bit irratic, I also get a lot of backfiring when driving normally, this has all started after my last remap. I also have a fuelling problem which I'm putting down to the fuel pump(walbro) as my AFR is going lean(enough to cause 15degrees of Knock correction) after 6500rpm.
I cant see it as a mapper problem as Andy F done it and has done in the past.
Andy told me the ECU had been flashed over 20 times before he touched it. My car is now currently being used as an everyday runabout and its so annoying.
Fitting a SimTek and a new fuel pump next week, hopefully it improves the driveability.
My fuelling has went up the left recently and the cold start is a bit irratic, I also get a lot of backfiring when driving normally, this has all started after my last remap. I also have a fuelling problem which I'm putting down to the fuel pump(walbro) as my AFR is going lean(enough to cause 15degrees of Knock correction) after 6500rpm.
I cant see it as a mapper problem as Andy F done it and has done in the past.
Andy told me the ECU had been flashed over 20 times before he touched it. My car is now currently being used as an everyday runabout and its so annoying.
Fitting a SimTek and a new fuel pump next week, hopefully it improves the driveability.
Bob did explain it to me, but the if I recall the jist is that on rare occassions when a std ECU is re-flashed, the rudimentary code that gives the mapper access to the ECU is also wiped and essentially that means the ECU can't be communicated with again! So no remap and no reinstating the original map.
Your problems sound like a hardware issue.
Have a word with Andy if you're not sure.
All the best.
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Hi mate, if a reflash buggers your std ECU it does it there and then at the point of flashing, as far as I know mate. It's very obvious and would preclude any mapping with that ECU.
Bob did explain it to me, but the if I recall the jist is that on rare occassions when a std ECU is re-flashed, the rudimentary code that gives the mapper access to the ECU is also wiped and essentially that means the ECU can't be communicated with again! So no remap and no reinstating the original map.
Your problems sound like a hardware issue.
Have a word with Andy if you're not sure.
All the best.
Bob did explain it to me, but the if I recall the jist is that on rare occassions when a std ECU is re-flashed, the rudimentary code that gives the mapper access to the ECU is also wiped and essentially that means the ECU can't be communicated with again! So no remap and no reinstating the original map.
Your problems sound like a hardware issue.
Have a word with Andy if you're not sure.
All the best.
I had heard of it happening with the Open Source stuff but not EcuTek.
Andy is understandably a very hard person to get a hold of as I have tried many a time. Then there is the fact that I am in Northern Ireland so it makes it even harder to do a map check as there is no EcuTek mappers here(only opensource and aftermarket).
SimTek is going in anyway by a local Subaru tuner.
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Cheers,
I had heard of it happening with the Open Source stuff but not EcuTek.
Andy is understandably a very hard person to get a hold of as I have tried many a time. Then there is the fact that I am in Northern Ireland so it makes it even harder to do a map check as there is no EcuTek mappers here(only opensource and aftermarket).
SimTek is going in anyway by a local Subaru tuner.
I had heard of it happening with the Open Source stuff but not EcuTek.
Andy is understandably a very hard person to get a hold of as I have tried many a time. Then there is the fact that I am in Northern Ireland so it makes it even harder to do a map check as there is no EcuTek mappers here(only opensource and aftermarket).
SimTek is going in anyway by a local Subaru tuner.
SimTek and EcuTek available
JGM, for example, charges £250 +VAT (£287.50 all in before Jan 1st) to fit/fully map a PFC. Bloomin' good price.
I expect the Simtek, and other ECUs, are in a similar ballpark(???).
I expect the Simtek, and other ECUs, are in a similar ballpark(???).
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Cheers,
I had heard of it happening with the Open Source stuff but not EcuTek.
Andy is understandably a very hard person to get a hold of as I have tried many a time. Then there is the fact that I am in Northern Ireland so it makes it even harder to do a map check as there is no EcuTek mappers here(only opensource and aftermarket).
SimTek is going in anyway by a local Subaru tuner.
I had heard of it happening with the Open Source stuff but not EcuTek.
Andy is understandably a very hard person to get a hold of as I have tried many a time. Then there is the fact that I am in Northern Ireland so it makes it even harder to do a map check as there is no EcuTek mappers here(only opensource and aftermarket).
SimTek is going in anyway by a local Subaru tuner.
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It certainly makes sense NOW to go Simtek...
As the current climate and rubbish $/£ rate means that, even 2nd hand, PFC can be about the same price (when you add in the mapping cost on top).
Even if you bought a PFC off Simon brand new, you're only saving £115 over the Simtek. Simtek defo worth that £115 difference what with its dual maps, MAFless, etc...
As the current climate and rubbish $/£ rate means that, even 2nd hand, PFC can be about the same price (when you add in the mapping cost on top).
Even if you bought a PFC off Simon brand new, you're only saving £115 over the Simtek. Simtek defo worth that £115 difference what with its dual maps, MAFless, etc...
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£300+VAT for simtek remap of someone elses supply. . if I supplied it originally then my normal £150+VAT for a tweak applies.
Cheers,
I had heard of it happening with the Open Source stuff but not EcuTek.
Andy is understandably a very hard person to get a hold of as I have tried many a time. Then there is the fact that I am in Northern Ireland so it makes it even harder to do a map check as there is no EcuTek mappers here(only opensource and aftermarket).
SimTek is going in anyway by a local Subaru tuner.
I had heard of it happening with the Open Source stuff but not EcuTek.
Andy is understandably a very hard person to get a hold of as I have tried many a time. Then there is the fact that I am in Northern Ireland so it makes it even harder to do a map check as there is no EcuTek mappers here(only opensource and aftermarket).
SimTek is going in anyway by a local Subaru tuner.
He made sure non one was around with mobiles ensuring I had mine off etc.
He chased Paul Murray away as his phone seems to never stop ringing.
So there must be some truth to it.
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Pete - When I rad my remap done by Andy he was very cautious when the time came for the download of the remap.
He made sure non one was around with mobiles ensuring I had mine off etc.
He chased Paul Murray away as his phone seems to never stop ringing.
So there must be some truth to it.
He made sure non one was around with mobiles ensuring I had mine off etc.
He chased Paul Murray away as his phone seems to never stop ringing.
So there must be some truth to it.
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You've got a cool CV Simon.
I esp. like the bit where you've dabbled in missile release systems. Perhaps you should start implementing that feature on our ECUs! lol 
I esp. like the bit where you've dabbled in missile release systems.
Perhaps you should start implementing that feature on our ECUs! lol
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