MrNoisy

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Totally agree with your comments on the Vreddies Tony - I'd never go back to Goodyear now, especially as they seem to wear far too quickly for my liking.
Re other comments on here - R888's are fine for track but for roads in British weather sounds like a brave choice to me

Mifo

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Ive had 2 sets of tyres on my impreza.
First I had the Bridgestone Re 050's. -215/45/17
I actually quite liked them, the grip was pretty good and didnt seem to notice any tramlining. In the wet they arent the best but overall a good tyre imo.

Toyo proxes t1rs. -225/40/18
I had these on my old car and was pretty amazed with them. Got them on my impreza and feel a little dissapointed. Ive done about 1k on them now so just worn in really.
There is alot of grip when cornering but push them a little more and you get tyre squeel and the feeling that you are driving on jelly.

Not that impressed with them and will probably look for something different next time.

MrNoisy

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I'd agree with that.
I had GSD2's on the car when I bought it.
GSD3's were far worse, didn't grip as much - very disappointing.
Dunlops no better.
Now I have Vreddies on the front, and GSD3's on the rear until they wear down. I have to say the Vreddies outpeform the GSD3's hugely - they grip better, wear better and in the wet there's no contest.

My big problem with the Goodyears is whilst they communicate the grip to the driver, they slide far too easily, especially in wet conditions, but I've even had the back break out in the dry in what I would have said was a fairly low speed corner which really didn't impress me. That, and I wore out my fronts in 8000 miles - which I thought was bloody awful as I don't push the car that hard. You have to run them at quite high pressures as well to limit the wear.

When you consider they're the same price as the Ultrac Sessantas it's a no brainer. One does wonder how many times you have to tell people on here - I guess that a lot of people never switch from Goodyear and therefore don't realise that they're not all that great value for the money.
Search on here - this has all been said before

alex_00s

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I know I keep boring ppl with my price comparison... but, as per camskill...

Toyo T1r 225/40/18... £83

Ultrac Sessanta 225/40/18... £88.40

From whats been said (final nail in the coffin by Bugeye_Scoob), I think I've just found my next tyre... and the tread pattern does look the business!

alex_00s

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My mates got a new R35 and the factory tyres are £400 a corner!!!

And here we are, some saying thats too much for 4

Anders_WR1

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Pirelli P Zero Nero

Jay_bee

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LOL

I thought it must have been something along those lines, but I couldn't / haven't worked out if the implication is that the ones we're discussing aren't cheap or the ones that have just been bought aren't cheap?

I think I must have had one hotpot too many!

Oh, and have priced these Vredestein Sessantas up, and I think I'll be giving them a try when I get round to sorting the 18's out

T5NYW

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If T1R's were £70 and Ultrac sesanta were £100 Id still by the Ultrac sesanta as better value for money IMHO

But may still look at F1's assymetrics

LOL at 20" GTR RE070's Iain did offer me some of them

scooby2.5maz

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just had ultrac sessantas put on my rb5 and i think they are the best tyre so far that i have used. really low road noise, superb grip. camskill did my 215/40/17 for £75 each.

filfy

needed a new set of rubber and after a lot of thought and reading what folk have to say,i opted for the sessantas
bloodyhell should of done this years ago.my ra is sooooo much better

Jonlu

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I'm glad this topic is in this section. I've recently converted to Eagle F1 Asymmetics from GSD3's but as I've just bought some new wheels, I get to start from scratch. I've never considered the Sessanta's before but reading other peoples opinion on these tyre's, they sound like the dark horse on this subject. Think I might just give them a try then

Dibs

I've just changed from my original fit RE070 (which did around 17k) to some Ultrac Sessantas as the reviews on here seemed favourable.

I changed brands as I wasn't keen on the cold weather performance of the RE070s and I wanted more of an all round tyre.

I have found a huge difference in performance but not how you would expect maybe. My very worn (on the tread depth markers) RE070s were way better than the new Ultrac Sessantas.

I wondered if it might be because they needed bedding in, but a month later and they are the same. They seem to squeal around corners and really don't inspire that much confidence when pressing on.

I've yet to really try them in the wet but they are pretty disappointing TBH.

I never managed to unstick the RE070s in the dry and I think I may have to get another set of wheels so I can have a winter set and a summer set....

Dibs

MrNoisy

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Good choice Alex - I'm sure you won't be disppointed!

Most people do say to run them in for a few hundred miles to get the best performance out of them but I have to say I'm surprised at your comments, especially as most 'netters seem to rate them very highly once they switch. I found them brilliant from the start.

I guess the difference though is that the RE070's a bit of a pricier option and not everyone can afford that little bit extra - I can't comment on them myself as I've never had a set on the car - I've had Dunlop Sports, Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD2 and 3's, and now the Vreddies. I hear good things about Toyos but also heard that they get skitterish towards the end of their life, and wear quickly which put me off.

I wouldn't go back mate, but tbh everyone drives a little differently so stick to what suits you I guess.

TimH

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Every other road tyre's pants compared to RE070s - in the dry. If only they were available at a sensible price in 235/45x17 in the UK

Mark1983

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I sold my 18's as I just didn't use them. I always prefered my RE070 shod 17's in all conditions. Not fantastic on the road in poor conditions so have a spare set of OEM 17's with Michelin Pilot Sports on them.

Both RE070's and Michelin Pilot Sports are the only tyres I'd buy for road use.

Glowplug

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Full set of T1R's fitted at the weekend, massive improvment on the, in my view budgets that came with the wheels,(falcon on front and fullrun on rear). Only done a fairly gentle 50 miles on them but so noticable esspecially on turning in, very responsive.Happy with my choice so far

markr1963

Just had a set of Yoko Advan Sport V103s fitted to my MY06 STI. My requirements were for occasional track use so my tyre and suspension guy said...
Just done a 1000 kms since the fitting on Friday and initial impression is that road noise is greatly reduced compared to the RE070s I've previously had. Grip seems fine but not had opportunity to push them yet. an added bonus is the Yoko's are about $50 a corner cheaper than the Bridgestones.

hongkongstuey

just ordered some toyo t1-r's, have eagle f1's at the moment all round on the standard 205/50/16 fitment, i looked and looked and scoured the net but couldnt find sessanta's for this size so gave up. 261 quid for 4 isnt bad. gotta get them fitted, prob about 20 quid. looking forward to getting the new rubber as the f1's are worn on outside edge on both front, tracking im guessing, maybe more but it'll get sorted. i know toyo have a rep for being a bit soft, but hey, i am not planning any road trips anytime soon so i think they'll last at least 12 months. i'll let you know how i get on.

on previous cars have used falken 512's and 912's, then went to pirelli p6000 powergy's, falkens wore out really quick, 7k miles, p6000's are still on the old car after 15k

cossie-nutter

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I am running Toyo T1S's and also on another set of wheels T1R'S, They grip very well and very pleased with them!

The Triple 8's are the best though but very pricey!

mclark

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Has anyone mentioned Kumho Ectsa V700? They are a semi-slick style tyre and although not as good as an R888 in the dry, they are significantly better in the wet and so I think are a pretty good tyre overall.

cster

Ditto, but Assymetric F1s instead of PS2s.
I found the PS2s used to wear a bit too much on the outside edge for my liking.
Best of both worlds. Probably go Assymetric in a couple of weeks - come on the rain!

Andy-H

For the money i think yoko ps2 are fantastic great levels of grip when dry, toyo t1 aren't bad good all rounder and real predictable, conty contact 2 great in wet but i've experianced 2 blow outs on them and goodyear i'll never use again car understeered real bad on them

MrFish

I use Re 070's for the road and find them amazing, super stiff side walls for a road tyre. Tried some F1's and took them back after 20 KM's just couldn't stand the way the car walked all over the side walls.

Anyway started doing some track days and find the Re 070's go off after only a couple of laps and start to get quite squirmy.

Thinking R888's or Dunlop Direzza DZ03's ? Or has anyone got any experience with kumho ecsta C03 tyres they are a tarmac rally tyre ?

T5NYW

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I sold both my set's of 17"s with RE070's because going to 18"'s

I just use the 18"s T1R's as poor road tyres now.

Going back to 17's and just bought a set of 17"wheels with RE070's for £200 They whoop the T1R's around the Track

Check tyre Pressures, i found, track dependant, that heat generated within wheel and tyre the RE070's Pressures can get VERY high, from 34psi cold to 51psi hot and yes VERY squirmy brought presures bck to 33psi hot and perrrrrfect.

FWIW

At Snetterton cars of simular power/speed with 888's didn't gain any cornering advantage over my RE070's, considering the cost of 888's I'd stick with RE's on 17's. two large buts below

BUT if you have to have 18"s, 888's are readily available unlike RE070's

BUT 888's seem to make VAST improvements to cars with lighter kerb wieght.

IMHO IIRC.

Tony

jasonius

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FWIW

Starting to loose a little confidence in my GY asymmetrics in the wet.

Where they were immensely grippy they now easily break free..

They have covered ~16k over 20mths use and although they still have around 4-5mm of tread remaining (central rib) maybe the rubbers getting a bit tired (hard)..? Shoulders are also lacking and real sharpness.

Anyone else noticed this fall off after a certain point..?

TBH I'd quite happily have another set as their performance, up to this point, has been amazing, esp in the wet..

Lol, it would be a good time to do another Wet Grip day a Rockingham, might get the car to do something this time..!

J

MrNoisy

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That's the main reason I won't go back to Goodyear mate - because the wear is so poor - had to replace mine aftr just a year (think less than 8000 miles). The F1's (admittedly GSD3's) I had on the front were terrible, wore around the edges very badly due to the weak sidewalls, even at slightly higher pressure. To be fair, I am running a slightly aggressive geometry setup but I wouldn't expect to see that sort of wear given that I don't go hooning around all day every day.

Also found they tended to slide about a bit more than I'd like in the wet at the front of the car. I don't have that problem with the Vreddies, they're wearing better than the F1's did (still loads of tread left at around 5000 miles), and given that they're at least £20 cheaper a corner than Asymmetrics I think I'll be sticking with them.

jasonius

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^^^

I can't say that I'm disappointed with the wear (18k of excellent performance with a good 4mm of main tread remaining) just that I've noticed a fall off in wet grip performance. Had to give way to a FRS mkII off wet roundabouts during a little play due to horrid understeer.. Wouldn't normally be an issue. Still made up for it on the straights..

Any tyre is going to start to loose performance after a certain time/mileage, I was just wondering if it's more to do with age, rather than actual wear IYSWIM..?

After all, I can't see many scoob owners getting anywhere near +18mths/15k out of any tyre unless you drive like a wuss all the time..

One other interesting point, I really noticed this 'fall off' after doing their first and only front to back rotation. Now I could understand the rear being a bit more leery, but the front surely should be better- ie more tread, esp on the shoulders. Unless the fronts need time to settle..???

Just to add, F1 GSD2/3's are no comparison to the F1 asymmetric. Totally different tyre..

maci

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Resurecting the thread... to give my 2 cents
I ran F1 Asymmetrics for 2 years now, covered 40k kms, so wear was excellent(compared to the original bridegestones which went after around 20k).
I found the tyres to be incredibly grippy in wet, and very good in the dry too. Haven't done any tracks so cannot comment there.
So over all a pretty fantastic tyre, but I do have a problem with it: while there is no tramling, the car on a straight road doesn't go straight. Checked geometry setup 3 times, tried adjusting(interchanging wheels, tyres, etc), but no cure. I have the factory setup btw. Mechanic told me that it has to do with the way the tyre's profile is and there is no cure. Since I do a lot of high speed runs on the german highways, I found it very annoying...

So I am now shopping for a Michelin PS2, which potentially I am told is an equally good tyre, and I hopefully will go straight also....

TimH

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Interesting! I've noticed that too, and thought it must be me losing my grip (pardon the pun )!

jasonius

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Who did the geometry..? Sounds silly, but as with always with these things there are specialists and then there are specialists..
Mine are still on, now over 20k/3yrs and I think the issues I've been having are purely down to the fact that I've been spoilt by their performance when they were at their prime, around 500-15k/30mths in my case. With hind sight they're currently no worse than the T1-Rs I had on previously.
Just a shame the performance has dropped off so much with a good 4-5mm of tread remaining..!
Now the question is, do I go for the same again (6mths ago that wouldn't have been a question) or try something different. The only other option seems to be Vredesteins, or maybe the pirelli nero(?) as fitted oe to the GB270's..?
At least I know I'll get 15k of astonishing all round performance from a fresh set of asymmetrics before they become mediocre..