View Poll Results: WHICH TYRES ARE BEST FOR TRACK AND ROAD
TOYO T1R
54
25.00%
TOYO T888
28
12.96%
BRIDESTONE RE050
7
3.24%
BRIDESTONE RE070
35
16.20%
Perrilli P6000
5
2.31%
Vredestein Ultrac
28
12.96%
GOODYEAR EAGLE F1
54
25.00%
GOODYEAR GDS3
13
6.02%
NINGTANG/POOKANG/SONYAN BUDGET 
4
1.85%
OTHER
24
11.11%
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POLL WHAT TYRE's ARE BEST FOR A SCOOBY
14 September 2009, 10:01 PM
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14 September 2009, 10:54 PM
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I suppose those that will never do a track day will vote a little differently than those that do. It'd be interesting to see the results if there were 3 categories: 'track day only', 'road use only' and 'combined road and track use'.
I would imagine, that the track day inclined ones among us will vote R888's or RE070's, those that dont' more likely T1-R's (on price more than anything - although I believe they have gone up a little since I last bought some) or Eagle F1's.
Personally, I think T1-R's are toilet, never tried Eagle F1's. Had Michelin PS2's on the beemer which were good but were hideously expensive.
My new scoob has new RE070's on, and I'm so impressed with them so far (only picked it up on Friday evening), havent been on track with them yet though. When they ready for replacing, I'll be going like for like as I dont have 2 sets of rims, which puts the R888's out for me as I need a bit more wet weather grip than they give, otherwise if it was just for the track, I'd def go for the triple eights all day long.
I would imagine, that the track day inclined ones among us will vote R888's or RE070's, those that dont' more likely T1-R's (on price more than anything - although I believe they have gone up a little since I last bought some) or Eagle F1's.
Personally, I think T1-R's are toilet, never tried Eagle F1's. Had Michelin PS2's on the beemer which were good but were hideously expensive.
My new scoob has new RE070's on, and I'm so impressed with them so far (only picked it up on Friday evening), havent been on track with them yet though. When they ready for replacing, I'll be going like for like as I dont have 2 sets of rims, which puts the R888's out for me as I need a bit more wet weather grip than they give, otherwise if it was just for the track, I'd def go for the triple eights all day long.
15 September 2009, 12:30 PM
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Yeah, many people will buy on performance per £ - so T1-R's tend to fair well here (hence the 2nd place thus far).
Unfortunately, the thread title isn't addressing this performance per £ quotient.
Unfortunately, the thread title isn't addressing this performance per £ quotient.
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15 September 2009, 01:25 PM
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I've always gone for T1r's, but mostly due to value for money and the fact I would never track my car... altho if I did I think I'd go for the 888's.
I'd like to try the Bridgestone RE070's, but cant seem to find them in 18's?
Checked Camskill as they are very very good for tyres and prices and they only have 17's available.
Anyone know where I can get a quote on 225/40/18?
I'd like to try the Bridgestone RE070's, but cant seem to find them in 18's?
Checked Camskill as they are very very good for tyres and prices and they only have 17's available.
Anyone know where I can get a quote on 225/40/18?
15 September 2009, 07:33 PM
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No mention of Dunlop SP9000 or Avon ZZ3? both good tyres I've had on other cars Avons being the best all rounder. Anyone tried Falken ZE912 BMW mates swear by them for value. In any case you should always reserve jugement until a few hundred miles have gone by and don't cane them from the start or they'll be trashed!
15 September 2009, 08:53 PM
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I'm trying Hankook RS2. Just running them in. I wanted a road/track all rounder. Anyone else had any experience with them? they have a reinforced wall so they are stiffer and are a bit 'crashy' in feeling over the R888's that were on the car. But R888's would have been £240 more a set and wear out fair too quickly for my pockets - although they are gret on the track! - i'll probably miss 'em.
Good feel, progressive so you know how much you've got left - not much to complain about, even if the ultimate grip is not up there with the best.I use F1 assymetrics on the road, having used T1R's before - no contest: I will NEVER use T1R's again! Especially as they are pretty much the same price in 235/45x17.
15 September 2009, 10:44 PM
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I'd agree with you there although they are very predictable, they just squeal 
Just try one car with RE070's and one with T1R's with the engine on and car stationary, try turning the steering wheel with one finger in the spoke. you can easily with T1R's but will need 2 or 3 for RE070's
IIRC you can only get them in JAPAN amd import them BUT will be MEGA expensive 
although they are very predictable, they just squeal with the engine on and car stationary, try turning the steering wheel with one finger in the spoke. you can easily with T1R's but will need 2 or 3 for RE070's
16 September 2009, 09:31 AM
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I'd agree with you there although they are very predictable, they just squeal
Just try one car with RE070's and one with T1R's with the engine on and car stationary, try turning the steering wheel with one finger in the spoke. you can easily with T1R's but will need 2 or 3 for RE070's
IIRC you can only get them in JAPAN amd import them BUT will be MEGA expensive
although they are very predictable, they just squeal Just try one car with RE070's and one with T1R's
with the engine on and car stationary, try turning the steering wheel with one finger in the spoke. you can easily with T1R's but will need 2 or 3 for RE070'sIIRC you can only get them in JAPAN amd import them BUT will be MEGA expensive
Thats a shame... I mean I've always used T1R's, but I'm always open to trying new tyres and as per prev post by tim hardisty, if the F1's are around the same price I think I'll give them a go
16 September 2009, 09:36 AM
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Just checked camskill for a price guide...
T1R's 225/40/18... £81.50 each
Goodyear F1 225/40/18... £108 each
Total difference on a set of 4 = £106
Not bad, worth trying
T1R's 225/40/18... £81.50 each
Goodyear F1 225/40/18... £108 each
Total difference on a set of 4 = £106
Not bad, worth trying
16 September 2009, 09:57 AM
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And "only" about £20 a corner different in 235...
A minor correction to what I said before: although the difference is still not that great, what I was recalling when i said there was not much difference was a comparison between Sessanta's and F1's, which is what I was looking at when I bought them.
A minor correction to what I said before: although the difference is still not that great, what I was recalling when i said there was not much difference was a comparison between Sessanta's and F1's, which is what I was looking at when I bought them.
16 September 2009, 12:09 PM
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I'm planning on going to 18's in the not too distant future and I've just seen the issues with getting RE070's in that size!!! FFS!!
Any suggestions for combined road AND track use?
I'd be a bit worried about using triple eights on the road in winter.
But I suppose I could keep the 17's for track and get some good road tyres on the 18s!!!
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Any suggestions for combined road AND track use?
I'd be a bit worried about using triple eights on the road in winter.
But I suppose I could keep the 17's for track and get some good road tyres on the 18s!!!
(DER!!)
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16 September 2009, 01:10 PM
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[quote=Jay_bee;8944896]I'm planning on going to 18's in the not too distant future and I've just seen the issues with getting RE070's in that size!!! FFS!!
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I went to 18"s for a Brake uprgrade, and sold 2 sets of 17"s
but now regret it,Better option me thinks and get performance Friction pads and disk
Might try Goodyear F1 assymetric or pirelli pzero neros in 18"s first thjough
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16 September 2009, 01:20 PM
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Well, I havent tracked it yet so I'm not sure about how the brakes will stand up?
They've got Brembo grooved and drilled discs, and Red Stuff Ceramics (and obviously the Brembo calipers).
I will def be getting rid of the Red Stuff pads as I know they're rubbish from when I had my Type R, and replacing with either DS2500's or Yellow Stuff Ceramics (which I've used to good effect on track previously) and steel braided hoses.
I have to say though, the car stops really well at the moment, so I'm hoping I wont need to got for a bigger caliper/disc combo
As for the tyre situation, I think I will definitely be trying the F1's for the 18's (road only) and, when the RE070's are shot on the 17's, dep on how they've performed on track (how long they've lasted), same again or R888's
They've got Brembo grooved and drilled discs, and Red Stuff Ceramics (and obviously the Brembo calipers).
I will def be getting rid of the Red Stuff pads as I know they're rubbish from when I had my Type R, and replacing with either DS2500's or Yellow Stuff Ceramics (which I've used to good effect on track previously) and steel braided hoses.
I have to say though, the car stops really well at the moment, so I'm hoping I wont need to got for a bigger caliper/disc combo
As for the tyre situation, I think I will definitely be trying the F1's for the 18's (road only) and, when the RE070's are shot on the 17's, dep on how they've performed on track (how long they've lasted), same again or R888's
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16 September 2009, 02:01 PM
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Just opened this to have a look see as we've just put new wheels & tyres on ours.
But the tyres are grown up ones lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If ever I have money to spare (as in Mrs Big Pete & Frankie let me have some to spend on me) I'm gonna spend it all on a car just to play wi
But the tyres are grown up ones lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If ever I have money to spare (as in Mrs Big Pete & Frankie let me have some to spend on me) I'm gonna spend it all on a car just to play wi
16 September 2009, 04:20 PM
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Just opened this to have a look see as we've just put new wheels & tyres on ours.
But the tyres are grown up ones lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If ever I have money to spare (as in Mrs Big Pete & Frankie let me have some to spend on me) I'm gonna spend it all on a car just to play wi
But the tyres are grown up ones lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If ever I have money to spare (as in Mrs Big Pete & Frankie let me have some to spend on me) I'm gonna spend it all on a car just to play wi
Can you translate for a daft Lancastrian that doesnt understand the Yorkshire lingo?
16 September 2009, 04:22 PM
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vredestein sessantas for me wet or dry they knock the goodyears into a cocked hat (and ive tried them) they last longer,are grippier and are cheaper IMO
wet or dry they knock the goodyears into a cocked hat (and ive tried them) they last longer,are grippier and are cheaper IMO
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And "only" about £20 a corner different in 235...
A minor correction to what I said before: although the difference is still not that great, what I was recalling when i said there was not much difference was a comparison between Sessanta's and F1's, which is what I was looking at when I bought them.
A minor correction to what I said before: although the difference is still not that great, what I was recalling when i said there was not much difference was a comparison between Sessanta's and F1's, which is what I was looking at when I bought them.
235/35/18 would be my preferred size, but as far as I recal they're MEGA expensive. Dont the WR1's have that size? ...I want them in any rubber!!!!
16 September 2009, 06:31 PM
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I use 888's in 225/40/18 on my summer road wheels and cant believe the grip
I also use T1R's on my 17's drag wheels and get 0-60ft in the low 1.6 secs and not alot of spin, so they do there job in a straight line, not so good on the bends unless i keep the psi alot lower than recommended
I also use T1R's on my 17's drag wheels and get 0-60ft in the low 1.6 secs and not alot of spin, so they do there job in a straight line, not so good on the bends unless i keep the psi alot lower than recommended
