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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Oh Engine Tuner, Ive heard bad storie's about them aswell through a member on here called 'Anger'. You have to chose your tuner wisely, as there are many cowboy's out there. Have you got warranty on the build?
I have chosen my tuner wisely Thank you very much, out of 5 tuners only 2 got back to me one of which was enginetuner when I was initially shopping around, customer service is also spot on not to mention excellent after sales service including out of hours.

As for the bad stories there isn't any I know of, I know of at least 10 people who have had builds and or mapping by them and all are happy including myself let alone the thousands of others, with regards to warranty if I have a problem they sort it no questions asked which is how all professional Tuners should be.

"Cowboyism" is not in their nature - everything has to be prefect otherwise the car simply does not leave their garage, as you say there are many cowboys on here I've dealt with a couple. I have no idea where you are getting your information from but my opinion and comments is from first hand experiance and not assumptions
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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i have just had a 2.5 build done by engine tuner i have been fully informed through the whole build process. i have done just over 3000 miles and for once i can gladly say i havent had a single problem no oil stains, no funny smoke or noises and the after service has also been great with constant pms and emails and thats why people like me ki8llr and R4lly and many more are more than happy to travel over 250 miles to get work carried out.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by K18LLR
I have chosen my tuner wisely Thank you very much, out of 5 tuners only 2 got back to me one of which was enginetuner when I was initially shopping around, customer service is also spot on not to mention excellent after sales service including out of hours.

As for the bad stories there isn't any I know of, I know of at least 10 people who have had builds and or mapping by them and all are happy including myself let alone the thousands of others, with regards to warranty if I have a problem they sort it no questions asked which is how all professional Tuners should be.

"Cowboyism" is not in their nature - everything has to be prefect otherwise the car simply does not leave their garage, as you say there are many cowboys on here I've dealt with a couple. I have no idea where you are getting your information from but my opinion and comments is from first hand experiance and not assumptions

+1 here.

it was a 600+ mile round trip for me, but worth every mile of it.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by STi Singh
Oh Engine Tuner, Ive heard bad storie's about them aswell through a member on here called 'Anger'. You have to chose your tuner wisely, as there are many cowboy's out there. Have you got warranty on the build?
Jesus wept, I knew this was coming. Enginetuner, or just plain old Alan Jeffery has been tuning performance cars in Plymouth since I were a lad. Im now 37 so thsat gives you some idea. I used to go out there with friends privileged enough to own decent Mk1 and 2 Escorts to have a look around. The guy has one hell of a rep in the South West, and has serviced my Impreza on occasions wen Im down that way. He had the perect opportunity to fleece me for a clutch plus fitting, and a rear diff that was deciding to shed some bits of tooth. He advised that both were jobs to keep on the backburner, and saved me some wedge for the wife to spend. Top service all round, and I wouldnt hesitate going again for any works. He and his lad know their way round an Impreza, let me tell you.

There are many cowboys out there, but not enginetuner. Do a proper search and youll find the same.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Oh Engine Tuner, Ive heard bad storie's about them aswell through a member on here called 'Anger'. You have to chose your tuner wisely, as there are many cowboy's out there. Have you got warranty on the build?
Now there's a name I've seen around! pmsl!

I'm not having a build carried out by Enginetuner, but must admit Martyn is a top chap who has always promptly responded to my questions and queries I've asked of him. I believe Enginetuner have also set a very high standard on their recently built powerhouse WR1.

All I now look forward is going up against Martyn at Shakespear!

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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by STi Singh
Oh Engine Tuner, Ive heard bad storie's about them aswell through a member on here called 'Anger'. You have to chose your tuner wisely, as there are many cowboy's out there. Have you got warranty on the build?
Hi Singh. I'd appreciate a PM reference your concerns. We take any customer complaints seriously, and would be grateful for a heads up on whatever ails your friend.

Regards Alan
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by STi Singh
Oh Engine Tuner, Ive heard bad storie's about them aswell through a member on here called 'Anger'. You have to chose your tuner wisely, as there are many cowboy's out there. Have you got warranty on the build?
Please feel free to tell me when im suppose to of said there cowboys

I got my car from Storm performance, the car was mapped at engine tuner and have never had any problems

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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JP4
Now there's a name I've seen around! pmsl!

I'm not having a build carried out by Enginetuner, but must admit Martyn is a top chap who has always promptly responded to my questions and queries I've asked of him. I believe Enginetuner have also set a very high standard on their recently built powerhouse WR1.

All I now look forward is going up against Martyn at Shakespear!
JP4 im look forward to seeing you at the SDS series to you troll, your the biggest brown nose on this site and cant help but always point a finger at me for stuff, including being a racist
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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Alan you have PM

STI Singh you have PM


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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by K18LLR
My car randomly gives out a puff of blue smoke on startup, the engine has done approx 1500 miles since run in and is running on Millers CFS 10W40, the turbo is also new, could this be down to the forged pistons, anyone else have a similar experiance using wiseco pistons?
hi have the same thing mines a 2.3 stroker running woosner pistons when cold it always smokes but soon as shes running its fine no smoke its where the pistons are slightly under sized so they are not tight in the bore like standard pistons but soon as they warm up the stop all smoke and any slap
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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[quote=JP4;8904947]Now there's a name I've seen around! pmsl!

I'm not having a build carried out by Enginetuner, but must admit Martyn is a top chap who has always promptly responded to my questions and queries I've asked of him. I believe Enginetuner have also set a very high standard on their recently built powerhouse WR1.

is this the same anger who just because he wouldnt talk or wave to YOU turned out to be a racist oh no hold our complete club was un-welcoming and racist lol.

anger mate idle chit chat i wouldnt worry about it.

back on topic...
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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K18LLR,

As much as you are very happy with your service and product from EngineTuner, you still had to post on here and publicly question their opinion. Don't you think that's very bad form? I do believe you are as happy as you say, but a little faith would go a long way, as I imagine Martyn and Alan were dissapointed to see you post in this way. It suggests that if you asked them first, you didn't believe them, or you didn't even given them the courtesy of asking their opinion first before posting.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by zebulon
K18LLR,

As much as you are very happy with your service and product from EngineTuner, you still had to post on here and publicly question their opinion. Don't you think that's very bad form? I do believe you are as happy as you say, but a little faith would go a long way, as I imagine Martyn and Alan were dissapointed to see you post in this way. It suggests that if you asked them first, you didn't believe them, or you didn't even given them the courtesy of asking their opinion first before posting.
Bit harsh I think, he didn't mention the builder but mentioned the components - IIRC the EJ 2.1 build spec wossner pistons so the OP was using EJ to build with components from a 3rd party. Once EJ was mentioned (and Lateral for that matter) the OP didn't have a bad word to say.

IMO the guy is asking for experiences from others with the same components which is what a bbs is all about.

Unfortunatley the way the thread has esculated is no fault of the OP or EJ
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by STi Singh
Oh Engine Tuner, Ive heard bad storie's about them aswell through a member on here called 'Anger'. You have to chose your tuner wisely, as there are many cowboy's out there. Have you got warranty on the build?
That's odd, as i have spoken to Anger several times recently about 2.1 engines, and he has always recommend the Engine Tuner package. Infact i think they are going to be building him one, so not sure where you get that from?
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zebulon
K18LLR,

As much as you are very happy with your service and product from EngineTuner, you still had to post on here and publicly question their opinion. Don't you think that's very bad form? I do believe you are as happy as you say, but a little faith would go a long way, as I imagine Martyn and Alan were dissapointed to see you post in this way. It suggests that if you asked them first, you didn't believe them, or you didn't even given them the courtesy of asking their opinion first before posting.
Not really as I was just asking other members if they have had similar experiances with wiseco pistons, however as pointed out by Alan and Jgm it's down to the stroker design.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by STi Singh
Oh Engine Tuner, Ive heard bad storie's about them aswell through a member on here called 'Anger'. You have to chose your tuner wisely, as there are many cowboy's out there. Have you got warranty on the build?
if you have facts present them if not stop chatting crap and causing arguments amongst members


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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by zebulon
K18LLR,

As much as you are very happy with your service and product from EngineTuner, you still had to post on here and publicly question their opinion. Don't you think that's very bad form? I do believe you are as happy as you say, but a little faith would go a long way, as I imagine Martyn and Alan were dissapointed to see you post in this way. It suggests that if you asked them first, you didn't believe them, or you didn't even given them the courtesy of asking their opinion first before posting.
Honestly, it's no problem. My good buddies from the big city can do no wrong.
Put it this way, Subaru spend literally millions designing thier product, making it just so, then along come we car buffs, and start changing everything. There are bound to be compromises, be it noise, oil consumption, longevity, you name it. We tuners try and get it under control, to the point where the benefits of the performance increase outweigh the disadvantages. There may be perfectly good reasons why a particular circumstance occurs, and if we don't get any feedback, we could all be none the wiser.
I learnt to fly light aircraft decades ago, and quickly came to the conclusion that I wouldn't live long enough to learn from mistakes, so I learnt by reading about other peoples mistakes.
That's the good bit about forums!
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Not ever used enginetuner for any work but always been quick to answer my questions and point me in the right direction. It is there 2.1 build that helped me choose my next build of a de-stroked 2.35 If you have no facts then bury your head back in the sand and keep it there, instead of spouting garbage no one wants to read!

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JP4 im look forward to seeing you at the SDS series to you troll, your the biggest brown nose on this site and cant help but always point a finger at me for stuff, including being a racist
A little paranoid aren't you Anger?? Afterall, I'm not the one who has made the claim about you slating off Enginetuner?

As for brown nosing - Martyn from Enginetuner as helped me out quite a bit before I started off my build and even during it. If you do not believe me then simply ask him.

As for Pennine Subaru, Pat H and Lateral P, they are the mastermind on my engine build which you have no idea about! Perhaps you should look up the term "give credit where credit is due"

As for looking forward to seeing me at the SDS series - don't know if this is a threat or not. Either way, you know where to find me.

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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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JP4 why dont you now sign in with your alias and tell everyone when i said this about Engine tuner

Ive been on here over 5 years now and your the only person who has ever had a problem with me
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JP4 im look forward to seeing you at the SDS series to you troll, your the biggest brown nose on this site and cant help but always point a finger at me for stuff, including being a racist
Can you clarify this racist statement?
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This thread is about K18LLR's car and not JP4's problem with me

If you look back at the thread that got him banned... its all there
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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This thread is about K18LLR's car and not JP4's problem with me

If you look back at the thread that got him banned... its all there
Btw, I know K18llr and some of the others who have posted on here! My post was to praise Martyn which can be clearly seen. End off!

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I know K18LLR and have spoken to Martyn many times in person at the SDS

I will say again that i dont know STI Singh and would never call a company that i was thinking of using for my next power upgrade a cowboy, who would

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I will say again that i dont know STI Singh
Looks like somebody is out to get you mate, Can you get an admin to do an IP check to see if its somebody else on here?
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does sound a bit moody james
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Looks like somebody is out to get you mate, Can you get an admin to do an IP check to see if its somebody else on here?
I did think about doing this, think i'll drop a pm to one in a minute
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Originally Posted by Fai17
Can you clarify this racist statement?
That comment had nothing at all to do with race.
I think you'll find he was impling JP4 is an **** licker
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Originally Posted by mike81
does sound a bit moody james
Why i try to stick to as little as possible on here now Mike, Forsale and Projects is about it, unless i see a Tech question i can help with

Its just not worth it anymore
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
That comment had nothing at all to do with race.
I think you'll find he was impling JP4 is an **** licker
Think he was talking about the bit where i said about being labelled a racist Gary


Lets just finish all this Me and Jag stuff now, as its pointless and stupid

Past is past
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