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Old 22 August 2009, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Has it been mapped before ? could be locked ?
The mapper also offeres EcuTec mapping....as i understand it if you have the EcuTec software you can wipe a locked ecu ready for fresh map...hence if i am right he should be able to wipe the ecu
Old 22 August 2009, 11:23 PM
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Sorry you will have to excuse my ignorance in this matter, if it turns out to be Ecutec with a licence, can i have it re maped with Ecutec software without having to buy a new licence?
Old 22 August 2009, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by madmerlin
Im not to sure, but yes i think so....

Gona contact dvlc on mon and pay for all details of previous owners, if i can find the owner who had it maped and hence the origional mapper it may help.

surely if mark can map ECUTEK then can he not check himself if its been ECUTEK`D with out you have to wait till the end of time for the DVLA to get back to you?
Old 22 August 2009, 11:27 PM
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ye, i need to ask him more on monday morning, to be honest i didnt know much about this when it was done earlier this week (Just knew mapping = more power), was very green.....still green, but not quite as much LOL
Old 22 August 2009, 11:29 PM
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Once the licence is paid for that's it, but a different mapper cannot alter the previous tuner's map, he has to start from scratch. My first map was by Richard Bulmer, after some serious up-grades I called the JGM to work his magic.

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Old 22 August 2009, 11:29 PM
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Bit embarrasing if it has got Ecutek tbh, you're talking only IRO £300 for a licensed remap.
Old 22 August 2009, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by madmerlin
The mapper also offeres EcuTec mapping....as i understand it if you have the EcuTec software you can wipe a locked ecu ready for fresh map...hence if i am right he should be able to wipe the ecu

thought it was only early ECUTEK ecus that can be put back to standard (before 2006) after they are locked for good?
Old 22 August 2009, 11:34 PM
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ARGH!!! my head is frying.........if it was Ecutec how do i find out the licence number? have looked through my book of paperwork ( old receipts etc) but no mention of a map.

Car is a 2001 bugeye btw
Old 22 August 2009, 11:41 PM
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I thought you were offered both open source or ecutek so why did he not just plug in with ecutek and map it.
Imho you are making it sound like buy 20pound lead and learn on customers car?
Old 22 August 2009, 11:46 PM
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he aint a guy doing this out of his garage, its a propper business, have met some of his customers and everyone raves about his work....he def seems to know his stuff tbh.

I didnt tell him it had been maped before cos i dont know if it has or not..

But again can you tell me, if its been maped by ecutec how do i find out the licence number and how much should i expect a remap to be?
Old 23 August 2009, 12:10 AM
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sorry and not specifically directed at where you took your car but just because somewhere appears to be a proper business it doesn't magically give them skills to remap cars..

If he was using open source everyday and given a car that he could not write to he would know to go and get his ecutek lead assuming he has one.

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Old 23 August 2009, 12:12 AM
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point taken....IF it turns out he cant map with ecutec, can you, if so can you find out my licence no.
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Nb. Happy to travel ANYWHERE to get this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 23 August 2009, 12:14 AM
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ecutek dealers

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Old 23 August 2009, 12:15 AM
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you don't need to know the licence number.. litterally plug laptop in and connect to ecu with ecutek software and it tells you if a licence is present.. you don't need to know anything..
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lol nice one
Old 23 August 2009, 12:20 AM
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so how much would you charge to remap a licenced ecu?
Old 23 August 2009, 12:24 AM
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pricing here www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk

£300+VAT assuming I wasn't original mapper, if I was then £150+VAT

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Old 23 August 2009, 12:28 AM
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ta m8
Old 23 August 2009, 12:33 AM
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May well be contacting you mate.....

But for now got to hit my pit.......worked over 60hrs this week again, nackered.....need a day off.
Old 23 August 2009, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Has it been mapped before ? could be locked ?
Don't know anthing specific about this open sauce stuff on a newage ECU, butr knowing what I do about the way the hardware works, would the OS software care, one way or the other, about whether or not there was a TeK map already on the ECU? Surely it'd just overwrite it regardless? Sides, it sounds from what Merlin has said so far that the mapper simply can't write the values he wants to into the editing software.

Originally Posted by 53WRX
Lol if you discover it has an Ecutek map and valid license.
As Thwaites has Tek accreditation, you'd think the mapper would already have checked for that possibility querying the ECU with Flash2002. If there was a license on it, the software would say so.

I remember the previous thread on this car. Gets curioser and curiouser.

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Old 23 August 2009, 05:56 PM
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Your not wrong......Its drivin me NUTS !
Old 23 August 2009, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
As Thwaites has Tek accreditation, you'd think the mapper would already have checked for that possibility querying the ECU with Flash2002. If there was a license on it, the software would say so.
not on dealer list

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Old 23 August 2009, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
not on dealer list

Simon
Not there, but their own site (here) says otherwise. Hmmm, is EcuTeK's list out of date, and Thwaites are yet to go on, or have they been on, and recently been taken off...?
Old 23 August 2009, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
Not there, but their own site (here) says otherwise. Hmmm, is EcuTeK's list out of date, and Thwaites are yet to go on, or have they been on, and recently been taken off...?
or do they have a outsourced mapper that is ECUTEK credited?
Old 23 August 2009, 11:32 PM
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Id just get JGM to map it. Get someone in there who knows what they are doing!
Old 24 August 2009, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by my94wrx
or do they have a outsourced mapper that is ECUTEK credited?
Was thinking similar when I saw the list of ECUs they advertise support for. Either way, and taking the earlier thread into account, can't disagree with the suggestion to try someone else with a verifiable track record.
Old 24 August 2009, 08:30 AM
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Is it the case that they cant write to it or is it the case that the ecu will not accept the values or run the levels of boost, timing etc that he is asking? Without wanting to teach mark to suck eggs, there are several boost/wgdc/fuel/timing/other tables that are duplicates in the software that mostly don't get used. It can be a case of finding the right ones for that ecu code sometimes but it will respond assuming mechanically able to do so.

OS software is very established and not beta in anyway but I don't tend to use the open source software anymore as there is better software that will do almost everything that ecutek's software will do (and in a lot of cases .. more). Again, this is not beta, not buggy and certainly a lot more than £20.

Ultimately though - it is a question of the person using the software (whichever software that is) ie ... The mapper.

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Old 24 August 2009, 09:28 PM
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I think what your fogetting to mention is this a a PPP car, on a bugeye they had a dauter(something like that)board fitted to send specific parameters as already mentioned to you, did he take the ECU out at all?
My guess is not.
As previously discussed he needs to do this and do the soldering work required to bypass this mod hence the reason not getting above 260! there would be no ecutek on this ecu either just the PPP board.
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Yeah that could explain why changing the values in the ROM weren't taken into account, good call.
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