mrjelly

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Hi Bren, I've sent you a pm..
but don't understand this
"They come with front camber adjustable as standard, rubber rear. £699 and in stock. You can upgrade the front to camber and castor adjustable for an extra £60 and the rears to camber adjustable for an additional £62. Price is to upgrade a pair of mounts. We have the upgrade mounts also in stock. "
The castor is adjustable without manual adjusters? done on the geo alignment after fitting - would changing the castor "on the fly" not mess up your alignment.
Camber adjustable rears - is this via top mounts - again would this not mess up your alignment settings?
I have bc camber bolts bought from you - do they do the same thing.

Also can you still use damping rear extenders if you have different topmounts, or do you need other extenders.
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Imprez'd

No, i didn't set the preload before the installation, since it's said that they are preloaded from the factory. yesterday I tightened everything, preloaded the springs like it was mentioned somewhere on the forum - hand tight and then 5 more mm's. now it's clunking only when you go thru a series of small bumps, but it's still there.

MrNoisy

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You said you fitted them right out of the box!?
If I'd have done that the car would have been on the deck lol.
Did you take them off the car to preload them or did you attempt to do it whilst they were on the car?
Sounds to me mate like you may have missed something during the installation if it's clunking all the time - let us know how you get on - hope you get it fixed!

Imprez'd

yep, right out of the box. it's low, but that's how i like it. i had the car jacked to preload the spring, it's the same as if it would be off the car. tommorrow i am going to get the alignment done, so will check everything once again. will let you know how it goes.

Imprez'd

Well, spent about 7 hours at the autoshop yesterday. Checked everything - camber bolts, upper strut bolts, preloaded all four springs again, retightened everything. Sound is coming mostly from rear left strut and front left strut. Maybe from other struts too, but these are way too loud. It's the same as my previous Cusco coilovers when their struts were shot. While inspecting everything I found that there's some oil on the pillowball joint area of the upper mount of all struts. Somewhere less, somewhere more. Most of all struts it was on the one that was making loudest sound while driving. Also I've noticed that when you set the damping to full hard, sound becomes louder. So, that's my story. Need help!

MrNoisy

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Errr, that sounds like they're damaged mate lol...hopefully Bren or Ann will be able to help.

bren@apex

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It really depends on what need replacing, I would hope nothing would be needed after 2 years.

Typical parts prices.

Damper £92.50
Locking collar £4.95 or £8.95
Topmount bearing £29.50

You can buy them online, you get a set with every coilover kit.
http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/accessories/
4th and 5th item on the list.

That's all correct, but please be aware we are almost out of stock of the Apex kits now, so the buy is nearing its close.

bren@apex

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Several points here
1) the extenders are for the rear, and will work on either the normal or the camber topmount. They are extenders for adjusting the damping. to adjust the camber you need to access the topmount directly.
2) the castor topmount is for the front, and adjusts castor when setting up the car while on the alignment jig - not for "on the fly" adjustment
3) The camber bolts are normally fitted on the rear, when using the normal rear topmount, we advise that topmount for road use, it absorbs the road noise very well.
4) Only damping is advised to be adjusted on the fly, camber/castor should be adjusted on the alignment jig.

Hope that clears it up.

Kev


Have you got pillowball mounts front and rear? We advise the rubber mounts on the rear as these absorb the noise rather than transmit it into the car through a solid mount. If you want camber adjustment then we have the camber bolts so you can still use the rubber topmount.

If you are getting excessive noise with the rubber topmount please call me (Kev) in the office 01274 683633.


A note about fitting straight from the box: PLEASE DON'T

Please back off the 2 collars under the spring, add copper grease to the threads and set the pre-load to 3-5mm (2-3mm on a used spring)

Please also remove the bottom mount, apply liberal copper grease and screw it back on.

Copper grease will enable easy adjustment even after several salty winters

Thanks

Kev@apex

eggy790

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cheers mate, very good prices then, will be in touch if anything happens, but for now i'll just enjoy

-shane-

iTrader: (40)

When you say preload, what do you actually mean, What did you have to do?

Imprez'd

Yes, I have pillowball upper mounts on all four. Sound is coming not just from the rear, but from the front also. I doubt it's normal for new pillowball mounts to sound so loud.

Thanks for the tip on the collar care, but that's my less concern right now.

Ann@apex

I know you e-mailed me regarding this, have you managed to get this resolved with Kev ?

shammy1985

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i need some for my 2003 sti as my rear shocks are leaking!! how much am i looking at for them delivered??? cheers stuart

AshMurc

hi, hopefully back from Kuwait soon and interested in getting some suspension for my classic wagon, do you guys have any options in stock? Driving fast road up in Scotland, glen shee and such, so still need travel and complience but at the same time bit stiffer and better body control -- bottoming out the standard front shocks on some bigger bumps and compressions whist on the brakes

hope you can help!
Ash

bren@apex

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Its extremely rare to have an issue with one corner so if youve got a problem with a front and rear then I suspect its more likely to be a set up problem rather than multiple faulty units but either way we are here to help

Can you please communicate with Kev regading this, kev@apxperformance.co.uk There are multiple members of staff who answer threads on forums which is not ideal for technical queiries as non of us know then know full situation or what youve been advised to check nor what you have checked. Im now the third member of staff working on this thread since you first posted and I have no idea where you are at or what youve tried etc. By communicating directly with one member we can help you more efficiently.

Thanks.

£559.20 plus £10 carriage

Id go for our 4/3kg.mm kit. It comes with softer springs than the normal kit along with longer travel dampers. Its an ideal kit for undulating tighter and twistier moor type roads.

We dont have any in but place an air order every Tuesday and expect delivery the following Monday. The BC Racing kit would be £699 but that include express airfreight. UK carriage is £10.

AshMurc

hmm, sounds very interesting!! Despite the relativly low spring rates can i still expect a very good improvement in terms of recovery from direction change, high speed stability (especially under breaking, rear end gets very loose and floaty when breaking -even gently- from more enthusiastic speeds), posie and composure generally?
You are absolutely right, decked and stiff as a boared is not what i am looking for at all but i still want something i can really lean on in the corners.

oh and what do they have in terms of geo and alignment adjustability?
Many thanks,
Ash

bren@apex

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You can use the adjustable damping to control dive and speed of roll as you tip into corners as well as front to rear balance. The springs determine ultimate angle of lean once into the corner and ultimate pitch on acceleration and braking but the damping controls the speed of the cars movement.

The kit coms with ride height adjustment, damping adjustment, corner weight adjustment and front camber adjustment.

You can add castor adjustment to the front top mount (+£60 the pair) and the rear from rubber to camber adjustable pillowball (+62 the pair).

Note that you might get an ocasional light rattle from the pillowball rar top mount and that there are holes in the rear top camber plate which mean the top mount wont seal the cabin rom the inner arch. I believe, but arent 100%, that you could refit the original rear top mount domes over the top mount to create a sealed unit. You would need damper extenders an drill a small hole in the dome to feed the adjuster through.

This theory, I havent tried it, no one with camber rear top mounts has come back and requested we eradicate the holes.

Imprez'd

Thanks for reply Bren. I've contacted Kev and he said I should check the dampers if they work properly. I have to disassemble the coilovers to do that and I don't have time for that right now. Will do as soon as I can.
As for the sound coming from the coilovers (now it's not only one) I am sure that there's some problem with the damper.
Anyway have to check it to be sure. What bothers me is that even if that's a faulty damper(s) and Kev said it will be covered by warranty, I'll have to take out all coilovers to inspect them and if they faulty, I'll have to take em out again to install new ones when they come and that costs some. I suppose warranty won't cover that?

bren@apex

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The warranty cover the coilovers themselves. The reason we ask for the test to be done is because we have found on a significant number of occasions that reported faults are not faults as such and are either install issues or something very simple like the top centre nut has come loose. We used to take customers word for it and send out replacement parts up front for them to report back that the parts they said were faulty werent actually faulty and they needed other parts. The original part cost was then unecessary and a loss to us

You are welcome to send the unit/s back to us for inspection, we dont charge to do a diagnostic test and report, even if it turns out to be user error and an install issue rather than a faulty component.

There are a finite number of components within a coilover and our diagnosis process checks each and every possible cause of the issue.

However having said all that my understanding was that you had issues with three sturts. If its just one then its an easier job to work through. I also note that you are in Russia making shipping of the unit that much more expensive. If you email me your full name or order number, details of the kit you ordered, if its a front or rear you have a problem with and a brief description of the issue then Ill go through the process with you again, see if I can spot something Kev didnt without you resorting to stipping the unit.

sales@apexperformance.co.uk

austrianscooby

@Imprez'd something lying around in the trunk or in the car which can make such a noise (spare wheel)? I know this sounds a little bit funny but often its caused by those easy things.

sti 360

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Hello have a classic sti
Suspension is in need of replacement and have seen your group buy ,
Only do road driving have you any sets left for my car thanks matt

Imprez'd

Sending it to you for diagnostics meaning I won't be able to drive my car for about half month minimum. I can't do that. As Kev advised I retightened and rechecked everything and it didn't help. This is not my first set of coilovers, so I know how shot damper sounds. Anyway, since I won't be able to send them to you, it looks like I am on my own with the problem.

Imprez'd

I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately it's not and looks like I'll have to buy a set of new dampers. Sound is coming from the front coilover also and it gets louder.

bren@apex

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All the Apex ones have gone now Im afraid We have BC Racing kits in stock at £699 if theyre of interest.

As I said above, if you email me the details then Ill look into what I can do for you. sales@apexperformance.co.uk

Markyscoob

Bren, tried emailing you tonight and the mail was bounced back from your postmaster programme. Are you still there?

Markyscoob

Err.....Rang to speak to you and the lady said you were gone..till Tuesday. Never knew you were the Big Boss though... Speak to you then.

bren@apex

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My inbox was full, I get a lot of email. Its all sorted now

However I dont have anything to do with processing orders and my staff are capable of dealing with just about anything so its rare that anyone actually needs to speak to me to get to a resolution. If its technical then speak to Kev, if its sales then anyone on the phone will be able to help.

Or, if you do need to speak to me in particular, Ill be back in on Tuesday.

01274 683633

Markyscoob

Cheers Bren. I always try and collar the boss incase I can squeeze a better price- force of habit, sorry. Will try Tuesday.

Mark

alex_00s

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Just lookin on the website: http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/accessories/

Regarding: BC Coilover Extender Long 25cm

I've got Race Logic coilovers, but need sumin for the rears so I can adjust them and was wondering if these would fit?

On mine the alan key size is 3mm, can anyone confirm what the size is on these BC's?

bren@apex

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We cant do anything on the price hence the group buy finishing. Its unfair to our dealers to use our buying position to undercut them. Our dealers are by a long way the mainstay of our business, its imperitive that we look after them

The extenders fit onto the adjust ****, what size adjuster **** do the Racing Logic use? You should have bought BC, you wouldnt have any issues then