Has anyone ever thought that Matteeboy may, truly, have been the great man he said he was? Someone has to be as wealthy, smart, fit and good looking as I am .... maybe he was actually it and you have all thrown him out with the bathwater!?

 

lol - your a fictional character tho

 

Or am I???????

Maybe I'm just a figment of your imagination?

 

If a load of people hadn't jumped on the bandwagon I'd have agreed with you but it started to turn into a dogpile. I can totally understand why someone would get rubbed up the wrong way by Matteeboys posts but he didn't bother me and I suspect that some people involved in giving him some flak would never have done so if it hadn't been started by someone else.

It started out funny but the joke got carried too far and it wore thin, IMHO, and then because Matteeboy left the unspent energy of the group had to get dissipated somewhere, in this case towards the mods.

To me it's simple: I like it here because of the people, information, entertainment and banter. There's been some great, not so great and memorable characters (past and present). Because of that, I come back for more. If I didn't like it, I'd go somewhere else. I wouldn't spend my time coming here to tell everyone how crap I think it is and dragging everyone else down to my level of jadedness.

Having been a mod on a busy site, I think the moderation here is pretty tame. It probably just needs to be more consistent.

 

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Yer banned!!!

Agree 100% both from a regular user and moderator perspective. I've seen some forums kick people off simply because of one fairly minor transgression or with not so much as a warning.

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I think the moderation on these forums is just about right IMHO

Some of the other forums I use include using coloured fonts as a banning offence

 

He was hardly a viscious bully.

Nat21 - you took a huge amount of flak over the Jade Goody threads and the NHS smoking threads did you not? You posted imflammatory comments to get rises out of people on both occasions. Granted you stuck to your guns and waded through it but you can hardly take the moral high ground over MBs comments about clothes and watches in "that" thread.

 

The thing with Mateeboy is he went looking for trouble, as tedious as the watch threads may be, you could garentee he would pop up giving it large about his nuclear bombproof g-shock. Another example was when he posted up a picture of himself in his pj's doing press ups, which lets be honest is asking for trouble! No one forced him to go, he did that himself.

 

I think you have again completely missed the point. I don't read Nat as taking high ground - I read that if you dish it out then expect it dished back.

Nat dished it out pretty heavily over Jade Goody and got it back in spades. If he had left in a huff would we all be crying over the spilt milk of bullying? I don't think so.

What Nat did was consistently dish it back and we all moved on.

Just like the pub - just like mates. You stick a bunch of guys together there is always banter. Sometimes it goes a bit far and it does that for a reason - it tests bonds, sets out the hierarchy. It is built into our consciousness.

In this case the self-proclaimed alpha male didn't win the challenge and like all losing wannabee alpha males chose to move on.

Try going to the Porsche BBS - jeez now that is a crusty over-moderated under opined bunch as I have ever come across. There is a not a funny bone in the whole place, even when I am there!

 

They wern't press ups, they were some form of ninja sit ups that the great man can do. And he can do more than you.

Which funnily enough winds people up, not enough for me to respond, but enough for me to lurk and watch the banter. What gets my goat is all the thread deletions before the outcome is reached, what was an enjoyable thread for those involved or reading. PITA.

Its happenned before and it will happen again. Cagefighter thread for example. These type of threads aren't about someone upsetting the clique IMO its about someone being an **** getting put straight buy the NSR regulars. Anyone can join in

 

I see what you mean now. Fair enough.

I just didn't think he was that bad - Snug Rhino for instance, did it to the point of an art form.

 

No, that thread was a total load of crap - it wasn't saying anything that hadn't already been said and was basically just people gloating on Matteeboy's departure. Locking it wasn't censorship IMO, just getting rid of the rubbish. I'm sure some people revel in all the SN 'internal politics', but apart from the gobby few, the rest of us couldn't really give a flying f*ck.

 

**** me, that's a sensible post - stick around this time, Rannoch- there might be hope for the place yet!

 

Wasn't it Matteeboy who called everyone on SN a fat lardy arsed ***** with no life (or words to that effect).

Dale Carnegie wouldn't be impressed

 

There would seem to be an incongruence here. If you couldn't really give a flying f*ck (by the way I have always wondered why a flying f*ck is far less significant than say a lying down f*ck or a doggy f*ck - anway). If you couldn't really give a flying f*ck then why are you posting about it then.

To protest how little interest you have?



Bubba - why thank you

 

Dale Carnegie may be dead but his works will live with us all

 

I wouldn't disagree with that, but I still think the new members of the Mod team are finding the equilibrium. Unlike the older members who have been moderators as the site has grown and developed, they have very much found themselves in at the deep end in a site which was (and perhaps still is to a degree) finding its feet after being in a pretty bad place before the change in ownership.

All the old mods (myself included) could be annoying bellends from time to time. Its just part of the process and doesn't necessarily make us bad people.

But structured and considered debate is the way to deal with it. If nothing else, its the only way to be taken seriously, even if "our" complaints are entirely justified.

What is a very intereting point, however, is the assertion the volume of posts peaks when we have events such as "Matteegate", and then falls off when, for want of a better word, peace is restored. If that is true, I would suggest, therefore, that many of the active members are here because of the "game" that is the "annoying poster gets challenged - fights back/buggers off - banter/bitchfest" rather than in spite of it.

I for one enjoy such "debate", and I suspect many other do too. I will also continue to challenge those who put themselves in a position which invites such a challenge, just as I would be happy to (if not expect) be challenged myself.

No one forced Mattee to be the subject of such attention. He did that all by himself, just as he has done on what appears to be every other forum he frequents. This may be a BBS, but the members behind the logins are real people who live in a real world. And the real world is most certainly not all fluffy pink bunnies, as I'm sure most people on here are well aware.

Mattee once threatened to "kick my head in" if he ever met me in real life because I tackled him on a thread and he lost the plot. I didn't report it, I didn't start a thread about it, and I didn't think any worse of him because of it. But I suspect if Mattee acted in real life like he does on the boards he frequents, he'd have been unable to carry out that threat as he'd have had a good kicking long before he joined this BBS.

So what is worse? The serial antagonist, or those who react to that? Are we (the members) supposed to accept it without reaction, or are we allowed to challenge it?

I sincerely hope we are allowed to challenge it because thats what happens in the real world, and this place would, IMO, be all the poorer otherwise (with a lot less traffic too, I suspect).

If it gets out of hand, perhaps the mod team should ask the antagonist to ease off a little, rather than giving those who respond a virtual kicking. Its all very well saying things like you don't have to read it/just ignore it but that's like asking people not to eat if they get hungry. It's basic human response. Debate, challenge and reaction is part of real life. Expecting this BBS to function without the latter of those two points is asking its members not be real people

If you keep coming back into that particular kitchen, you have to expect to get burned now and again.

One final point - as certain people have, historically, missed the blindingly obvious point that when I post my thoughts and opinions on the subject, they are just my thoughts and opinions and not a statement of "fact", I feel obliged to state that the foregoing post is, of course, just my thoughts and opinions

 

Mattee-Stalker

 

Hmmm, as long as one of the people getting involved in/causing fights/challenging people/debating isn't female and well capable of winning. I remember quite a few people not liking that 'game' at all.

 

behave

 

I wasn't around in time to see him say it, but if he did, I'd have to congratulate him on the observation and on being at least 75% correct.

 

The truth will set us all free.

For some, and I would have to include myself, this is the heart of the matter. As I have said elsewhere it is because Mattee could be a pain in the ****, not in spite of, is the very reason he should be here and not left because it did trigger debate and controversy. And we like it.

And being on a BBS it makes it more of a cerebral activity, but we are all jostling for position as we have done for many, many thousands of years and a BBS is a good way of distilling that.

It is also why Snet has 100,000 user-ids (and a few thousand members) compared to other more 'sensible' BBS that are dry and crusty, and frankly no fun!

 

I recall that we had some legendary "debates" back then Emma, some you lost, some I lost and some that made us both look like *****

But it was entertaining, irrespective of the outcome.

Matteboy's antagonistic posting style makes yours look like a newly born kitten in comparison

 

She's back

 

F*ckin ell you lot, its an internet forum where you go to ask questions and talk about stuff, it doesnt warrant all this analysis, if someone says something you dont like you get the chance to reply to try and change their opinion, have a laugh but dont take it too.

 

J4CKO, its different things for different people

For many, "all this analysis" as you put it, and the debate, the challenging, the "cerebral activity" is the fun of it.

 

I can't comment on his 'style' as I haven't been back long enough to really observe it.

I wasn't actually trying to be antagonistic, (well, not usually). I just happened to have opinions that annoyed a lot of the more vocal posters on here, or I disagreed with their opinions, (which also annoyed them - women should, after all, know their place* ), or I made my points in a very direct and antagonistic way. I recognise I can be rather blunt.

My aim was always to say what I wanted to say, not to antagonise. If what I said happened to be antagonistic, it wasn't normally intentionally so. However, just as I didn't deliberately try to be antagonistic, I also didn't make any effort not to be. I just said it as I saw it.

I'm much the same now as I ever was, just a bit older and a bit less angry.


* I did know my place. It was the driving seat of my RB5! I miss that car!

 

I wonder what you really mean by that.

 

Really, being wound up by/winding up Matteeboy, then discussing it ad nauseum is fun ?

Seems to me, Scoobynet is kind of self destructing, sometimes it is perhaps best to just bite your lip.

 

You know fine well

Let me edit for the benefit of others, as I am happy to be transparent