Attempted murder by teacher
10 July 2009, 06:00 PM
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When I was at school our class ******** messed a teacher about....
He was asked to help move a desk, and said desk was used to pin him to the rear wall of the classroom. So hard that his head hit the desk.
Sadly none of us saw anything
Today I was carrying a large ladder and a jug-eared muppet tells me to "Get the ferk out of my way". So as usual I repeat what he said to me, and as he draws level I hiss malevolently "****-head"....
As a non-teacher I can get away with a bit more.... he just looked shocked and walked off. Plan B was to eviscerate the little **** with said ladder.
Funnily we have some kids in PE on work experience, and even they say that most kids behaviour is unacceptable.
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He was asked to help move a desk, and said desk was used to pin him to the rear wall of the classroom. So hard that his head hit the desk.
Sadly none of us saw anything
Today I was carrying a large ladder and a jug-eared muppet tells me to "Get the ferk out of my way". So as usual I repeat what he said to me, and as he draws level I hiss malevolently "****-head"....
As a non-teacher I can get away with a bit more.... he just looked shocked and walked off. Plan B was to eviscerate the little **** with said ladder.
Funnily we have some kids in PE on work experience, and even they say that most kids behaviour is unacceptable.
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10 July 2009, 06:47 PM
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I think this pic of the boy can you get the feeling he looks like one these cheeky ******* you know the ones that like to come out with sarcastic and what they think are smart comments..Im suprised that not more reports of teachers are wanting to strangle some of the little *******.Can't ever remember anyone one in my school either telling a teacher to **** off ,i do remember getting the finger poke in the chest though and being pulled by my school tie along the corridor to the headmasters office for stealing dinner tickets and selling them for 20p each..
10 July 2009, 06:57 PM
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I think this pic of the boy can you get the feeling he looks like one these cheeky ******* you know the ones that like to come out with sarcastic and what they think are smart comments..Im suprised that not more reports of teachers are wanting to strangle some of the little *******.Can't ever remember anyone one in my school either telling a teacher to **** off ,i do remember getting the finger poke in the chest though and being pulled by my school tie along the corridor to the headmasters office for stealing dinner tickets and selling them for 20p each..
10 July 2009, 07:21 PM
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I remember getting dragged to the aforementioned teachers office when it was suggested that i'd let off stink bombs on the coach. I hadn't but knew who had, obv i wasn't going to tell though.
I remember him saying right in my face in the deepest most impressive voice i've still ever heard
"Well if you didn't do it then you better tell me who did or i'll pin you to my wall by your ears boooyyyyyyyy"
And i absoultey believed he would have and quickly admitted i had done it
10 July 2009, 09:47 PM
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People posting the bit about the "teacher's an adult he should have been able to control his feelings".....Which bit of the sentence "the guy had just come out of a mental institute and lost the plot due to the silly lil ***** comments".........don't you understand ? 
He wasn't making a foookin choice when he stoved the cheeky lil ****s head in, becos he had totally lost his mental faculties.
The kid learnt a valuable lesson not to taunt a mentally unstable man by taking a verbal pop about his mentally unstable demeanor.
If this kid recovers enough to be able to talk in the future then perhaps he might think twice before giving "his opinion" about what someone should go and do.
Did he deserve it? Of course not but he made a big mistake and now two lives are ruined. Potentially both his and most certainly this teachers.
He wasn't making a foookin choice when he stoved the cheeky lil ****s head in, becos he had totally lost his mental faculties.
The kid learnt a valuable lesson not to taunt a mentally unstable man by taking a verbal pop about his mentally unstable demeanor.
If this kid recovers enough to be able to talk in the future then perhaps he might think twice before giving "his opinion" about what someone should go and do.
Did he deserve it? Of course not but he made a big mistake and now two lives are ruined. Potentially both his and most certainly this teachers.
10 July 2009, 11:03 PM
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The missus has came home crying a few times because the kids have been mentally pushing her, the kids these days don't give a ****!
She tells me that nobody is even arsed about detention, they are limited on how long they can keep them, and the really naughty ones don't even bother turning up for it!
And mobile phones are a total nuisance.
I was a **** at school, but i was a clever **** who tended to keep off the radar, and whenever i was caught, i usually got the "i expected better from you" line while not quite getting beat up like the others
Although that all changed one day when i was caught deliberately aiming a football for Mr Bedfords window and scored a direct hit, i never knew the ****** was behind me when i told "Benny" "lets smash baldy bedfords windows" pmsl
Shortly after that i was given a proper full on slap by the science teacher, her ring caught my head, giving me a cut temple, which caused quite a bit of agro amongst the school at the time regards parents/teachers, to be honest i deserved it anyway, i had filled a syringe up with water and was trying to squirt it into some other lads ear hole
after the slap i never tried to squirt the lads ear ever again
lesson learned although i am not sure the punishment was measured against the "crime" but mehhhh, i am sure she was just having a bad day
She tells me that nobody is even arsed about detention, they are limited on how long they can keep them, and the really naughty ones don't even bother turning up for it!
And mobile phones are a total nuisance.
I was a **** at school, but i was a clever **** who tended to keep off the radar, and whenever i was caught, i usually got the "i expected better from you" line while not quite getting beat up like the others
Although that all changed one day when i was caught deliberately aiming a football for Mr Bedfords window and scored a direct hit, i never knew the ****** was behind me when i told "Benny" "lets smash baldy bedfords windows" pmsl
Shortly after that i was given a proper full on slap by the science teacher, her ring caught my head, giving me a cut temple, which caused quite a bit of agro amongst the school at the time regards parents/teachers, to be honest i deserved it anyway, i had filled a syringe up with water and was trying to squirt it into some other lads ear hole
after the slap i never tried to squirt the lads ear ever again lesson learned
although i am not sure the punishment was measured against the "crime" but mehhhh, i am sure she was just having a bad day
10 July 2009, 11:56 PM
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It's a strange one this, as I can totally understand how the teacher was driven to lashing out, and I really fell for him being pushed this far after not being well, but part of me still thinks this cannot be condoned.
Ok, the kid was seemingly a right little ****, and certainly deserved something to knock him down a peg or two, but mental instability or not, wacking someone with a 2kg weight is not really on, especially in the head.
While in an ideal world, I would love teachers, and adults in general to once again have more control, and ability to discipline kids, this is not the way to do it. I would love if kids (and some adults) knew how to show some respect, but unless a miracle happens, or we find a new way of instilling this, then people in certain proffessions/life in general need to find ways of coping with the way people are.
At the end of the day, newer teachers must have an idea what they are getting into, and accept they will have to deal with some little *******s, and older school teachers know times have changed. I'm in no way saying it's right, and wish there was an easy answer, or we even took some steps in allowing more discipline (within reason), and got some values back, but if teachers can't handle it, maybe they need to get out.
In the case of this teacher, I think it was possibly too soon for him to go back considering what his suffering had been, and that to me was irresponsible of someone, for allowing him back into that environment.
Ok, the kid was seemingly a right little ****, and certainly deserved something to knock him down a peg or two, but mental instability or not, wacking someone with a 2kg weight is not really on, especially in the head.
While in an ideal world, I would love teachers, and adults in general to once again have more control, and ability to discipline kids, this is not the way to do it. I would love if kids (and some adults) knew how to show some respect, but unless a miracle happens, or we find a new way of instilling this, then people in certain proffessions/life in general need to find ways of coping with the way people are.
At the end of the day, newer teachers must have an idea what they are getting into, and accept they will have to deal with some little *******s, and older school teachers know times have changed. I'm in no way saying it's right, and wish there was an easy answer, or we even took some steps in allowing more discipline (within reason), and got some values back, but if teachers can't handle it, maybe they need to get out.
In the case of this teacher, I think it was possibly too soon for him to go back considering what his suffering had been, and that to me was irresponsible of someone, for allowing him back into that environment.
11 July 2009, 02:45 AM
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I expect the poor teacher just snapped. He is 49 and must have been doing this job for 20 years and just had enough. The lack of discipline and respect must get to you after a while. I certainly couldn't be a teacher in school these days.
Very sad for everyone concerned.
Steve
Very sad for everyone concerned.
Steve
Certain groups of kids today are a nightmare. Only tonight I was out watering the plants in my front garden and two hoodies walked onto a neighbours drive and spent a while checking out the front door and car. I just moved to water the plants at the front of the garden so I could keep a closer eye on them. I was met with "what you fookin lookin at". Etc etc. They can't have been more than early teens. I'm now awake listening out for the little ***** attacking the scoob.
11 July 2009, 02:48 AM
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Either p1ss or get off the pot.
11 July 2009, 08:05 AM
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My thoughts on the subject...
The adult should have never lashed out on the child in the way he did.
There are ways and means of pursuading an unruly child to conform to your way of teaching, hitting him with a 2KG weight isnt the way (thats if he did do that, I wasnt there.)
I have had groups of ferral kids damaging my property, and cars, making fires in the woodland next to my house, to go over and start beating them would have been a great release, but I didnt.
I find it more productive to get in amongst them and completely terrify them, I speak to them on their level using their language and aggression, threaten the worst to them but dont lash out.
If the teacher was mentally unstable, and the school knew about it, they are half to blame aswell.
Also there are rumours about the boy being a serial pain in the ***, if so, why wasnt something done earlier...ie parent meetings/suspension/special schooling/school move etc.
When I was at school if you were unruley or a disruption to the class you were sent to the heads office were you would sit and copy the telephone directory. Hence why my spelling is dire, but Im good with names.
And if you carried on and on, you were "allowed" to spend all your time in the local skateboard park, no questions asked.
I believe the same as most, that the adult lost the plot and didnt have any control over what he was doing.
The adult should have never lashed out on the child in the way he did.
There are ways and means of pursuading an unruly child to conform to your way of teaching, hitting him with a 2KG weight isnt the way (thats if he did do that, I wasnt there.)
I have had groups of ferral kids damaging my property, and cars, making fires in the woodland next to my house, to go over and start beating them would have been a great release, but I didnt.
I find it more productive to get in amongst them and completely terrify them, I speak to them on their level using their language and aggression, threaten the worst to them but dont lash out.
If the teacher was mentally unstable, and the school knew about it, they are half to blame aswell.
Also there are rumours about the boy being a serial pain in the ***, if so, why wasnt something done earlier...ie parent meetings/suspension/special schooling/school move etc.
When I was at school if you were unruley or a disruption to the class you were sent to the heads office were you would sit and copy the telephone directory. Hence why my spelling is dire, but Im good with names.
And if you carried on and on, you were "allowed" to spend all your time in the local skateboard park, no questions asked.
I believe the same as most, that the adult lost the plot and didnt have any control over what he was doing.
11 July 2009, 08:59 AM
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Problem at the moment is that governemnt are slowly but sureley pressuring LEAs to remove sanction after sanction, while telling everyone there is no problem, and telling teachers to control the kids.
When schools ask how, they are told to be professional and get on with it.
Meanwhile, exclusions are being squeezed.........it's harder and harder to justify, LEAs have to keep them to a "target" low level, long term ones are shorter and shorter year on year, and permanent ones are nigh on impossible to achieve there are so many hoops to jump through.
Then, when the governors GO for permanent, some lay-panel chucks the kid back, tells the school to "get on with teaching him/her".
When schools ask how, they are told to be professional and get on with it.
Meanwhile, exclusions are being squeezed.........it's harder and harder to justify, LEAs have to keep them to a "target" low level, long term ones are shorter and shorter year on year, and permanent ones are nigh on impossible to achieve there are so many hoops to jump through.
Then, when the governors GO for permanent, some lay-panel chucks the kid back, tells the school to "get on with teaching him/her".
11 July 2009, 09:27 AM
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I think that the teacher should be allowed back to teach as I'm sure there won't be any more unruly kids in that class, they'll all be **** scared of giving the teacher lip
I don't condone what the teacher did, I do think that he overstepped the mark but I do think that he should have done more than throw a blackboard rubber at the little ****
I don't condone what the teacher did, I do think that he overstepped the mark but I do think that he should have done more than throw a blackboard rubber at the little ****
11 July 2009, 10:42 AM
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The kid learnt a valuable lesson not to taunt a mentally unstable man by taking a verbal pop about his mentally unstable demeanor.
If this kid recovers enough to be able to talk in the future then perhaps he might think twice before giving "his opinion" about what someone should go and do.
If this kid recovers enough to be able to talk in the future then perhaps he might think twice before giving "his opinion" about what someone should go and do.
If he believes that, then he will have learnt nothing except to duck next time.
11 July 2009, 11:07 AM
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My thoughts on the subject...
The adult should have never lashed out on the child in the way he did.
There are ways and means of pursuading an unruly child to conform to your way of teaching, hitting him with a 2KG weight isnt the way (thats if he did do that, I wasnt there.)
I have had groups of ferral kids damaging my property, and cars, making fires in the woodland next to my house, to go over and start beating them would have been a great release, but I didnt.
I find it more productive to get in amongst them and completely terrify them, I speak to them on their level using their language and aggression, threaten the worst to them but dont lash out.
If the teacher was mentally unstable, and the school knew about it, they are half to blame aswell.
Also there are rumours about the boy being a serial pain in the ***, if so, why wasnt something done earlier...ie parent meetings/suspension/special schooling/school move etc.
When I was at school if you were unruley or a disruption to the class you were sent to the heads office were you would sit and copy the telephone directory. Hence why my spelling is dire, but Im good with names.
And if you carried on and on, you were "allowed" to spend all your time in the local skateboard park, no questions asked.
I believe the same as most, that the adult lost the plot and didnt have any control over what he was doing.
The adult should have never lashed out on the child in the way he did.
There are ways and means of pursuading an unruly child to conform to your way of teaching, hitting him with a 2KG weight isnt the way (thats if he did do that, I wasnt there.)
I have had groups of ferral kids damaging my property, and cars, making fires in the woodland next to my house, to go over and start beating them would have been a great release, but I didnt.
I find it more productive to get in amongst them and completely terrify them, I speak to them on their level using their language and aggression, threaten the worst to them but dont lash out.
If the teacher was mentally unstable, and the school knew about it, they are half to blame aswell.
Also there are rumours about the boy being a serial pain in the ***, if so, why wasnt something done earlier...ie parent meetings/suspension/special schooling/school move etc.
When I was at school if you were unruley or a disruption to the class you were sent to the heads office were you would sit and copy the telephone directory. Hence why my spelling is dire, but Im good with names.
And if you carried on and on, you were "allowed" to spend all your time in the local skateboard park, no questions asked.
I believe the same as most, that the adult lost the plot and didnt have any control over what he was doing.
Les
11 July 2009, 11:23 AM
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I dont just go bounding up a group of kids without weighing up my options, and without having a plan B.
I think the worst part about letting kids know (in the fashion described above) that setting fire to my fence, or hurling stones at my cars is not a good idea, is that they know where you live, and they know your not always in.
12 July 2009, 02:50 PM
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So to summarize:
little cheeky unruly disrespectful but apparently angelic chav, winds up well-respected but apparently mental teacher; teacher tw@ts chav; chav gets what's been coming to him (probably for a while), albeit 2KGs worth; teacher lands himself in a spot of bother; chav ends up in hospital eatin dinners through a straw.
Hardly attempted murder is it? The teacher should be rewarded for his illustration of applied physics in the classroom - pretty sure the class will never forget about gravity or weight again.
little cheeky unruly disrespectful but apparently angelic chav, winds up well-respected but apparently mental teacher; teacher tw@ts chav; chav gets what's been coming to him (probably for a while), albeit 2KGs worth; teacher lands himself in a spot of bother; chav ends up in hospital eatin dinners through a straw.
Hardly attempted murder is it? The teacher should be rewarded for his illustration of applied physics in the classroom - pretty sure the class will never forget about gravity or weight again.
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12 July 2009, 05:23 PM
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Telling a member of staff to "F off" is a regular daily occurrence, the weak ignore it, whereas those with some fight left in them challenge such behaviour.
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P.S. I still think web-cams would be good, so decent parents could complain about the few ********* who are destroying their kids education.
12 July 2009, 06:39 PM
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So to summarize:
little cheeky unruly disrespectful but apparently angelic chav, winds up well-respected but apparently mental teacher; teacher tw@ts chav; chav gets what's been coming to him (probably for a while), albeit 2KGs worth; teacher lands himself in a spot of bother; chav ends up in hospital eatin dinners through a straw.
Hardly attempted murder is it? The teacher should be rewarded for his illustration of applied physics in the classroom - pretty sure the class will never forget about gravity or weight again.
little cheeky unruly disrespectful but apparently angelic chav, winds up well-respected but apparently mental teacher; teacher tw@ts chav; chav gets what's been coming to him (probably for a while), albeit 2KGs worth; teacher lands himself in a spot of bother; chav ends up in hospital eatin dinners through a straw.
Hardly attempted murder is it? The teacher should be rewarded for his illustration of applied physics in the classroom - pretty sure the class will never forget about gravity or weight again.
I imagine that if this had been the other way around and the teacher assulted then it would still be the teachers fault and the kidds is still the victim.
Have the parents of the chav child be on TV tellingg us how theri little angel is a good lad and never in trouble yet?
12 July 2009, 07:06 PM
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Not yet but keep an eye on the up coming issues of take a break and Hello, I am sure they will gather strength from being able to exploit the situation for a new plasma to up there UPI!