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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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the teacher had just returned from a stress induced stroke, the kid in question was calling him a psycho taunting him and he proceeded to cave the wee bastid's skull in with a 2kg weight. wee toerag deseved everything he got. just a pity he didn't kill him. one less chavvy scummer to worry about.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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The teacher had just returned from "millbrook" mental hospital if your not a local.

The kid told him to "**** off back to millbrook".

Teach threw the weights at him , kid ducked before he knew the teacher stood over beating **** out of him. Took two teachers to get him off.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Tell you what the ****** bears a striking 'sembelence to Nottingums yesteryear man of the city , the one and only 'Brian motormouth noxious tosser Clough'

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Tell you what the ****** bears a striking 'sembelence to Nottingums yesteryear man of the city , the one and only 'Brian motormouth noxious tosser Clough'
nothing wrong with legend of cloughie
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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The teacher obviously got confused with Torchwood...
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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2KG ..!!! That s a bag of sugar to you and me ..

The kids of today
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Who here has never taken the pi$$ out of a teacher?

"he deserved everything he got"
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Tell you what: when I was at School, there was a fair amount of banter and mickey taking directed towards the teachers (par for the course) but telling one to "F**k off"?

Not a chance. a) we were raised better than that (and that's a key issue I feel here) and b) the teachers were empowered to discipline you if you were out of order. Now days, it seems like they'd get in trouble for so much as telling an unruly child to shut up!

One teacher used to habitually throw black board erasers (the wooden handled ones) at anyone talking out of turn. Wouldn't advocate that as good teaching practice mind!

People are too keen to try and treat children like adults from too young an age. A certain level of fear of authority and discipline for wrong doing is a prerequisite for a well adjusted child IMHO.

Too many kids left unchecked by parents and schools thinking they can behave antisocially with impunity!
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cookstar
Who here has never taken the pi$$ out of a teacher?

"he deserved everything he got"
I never told any of my teachers to **** off back to a mental institute?
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Dont know about the kid deserving it but he deserved something by the sound of it, being a teacher is heard enough with the little ***** being personal about you, I am not a teacher for this reason as there would be a trail of the little *****. It does kind of serve him right, he knew the teacher had been institutionalised, had a serious medical condition due to stress and then chose to lambast the bloke about it, dont pick on someone who has been in a mental insitution as they may just stove your head in whilst explaining the difference between the mass of a 2Kg and its weight (once a science teacher, always a science teacher)

The fact is, he wouodnt have got his head stoved in if he had sat there, been polite, learnt some science and shut up, I remember being a little cheeky with teachers but in a fun and respectful way, all part of the experience.

I think we used to fear consequences and had barriers set, nowadays we have allowed them to keep testing and realised ther is no real consequence.

Hopefully this might make others think when goading a teacher that they may set off a chain reaction (science teacher, geddit ) they cant control, pity he didnt Thermite the little turd.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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I would of chucked magnesium on him and through him a match lol.

Loved magensium at school. What was the one that reacted with water?
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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I would of chucked magnesium on him and through him a match lol.

Loved magensium at school. What was the one that reacted with water?
Calcium, sodium, potassium.

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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I would of chucked magnesium on him and through him a match lol.

Loved magensium at school. What was the one that reacted with water?
Magnesium was the one, always fun to watch it burn. Sodium also tended to explode!

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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How long does it take to investigate? Surely there must be a class full of witnesses to say what happened.
The longer it goes on the more speculation happens.
It will all depend on what the witnesses are actually saying

I can remember when we had a disruptive kid foisted upon our class by the powers that be, all he did all through every class, every day, was see how far he could push the teachers
We were as sick of the tw@t as the teachers were Eventually in one science class he decided he was going to go toe to toe with the teacher in the middle of the room

We all saw the teacher sucker punch him under the ribs, and we all saw the fcukwit drop like a sack of ****

But as far as the subsequent investigation went, every single one of us saw him trip and fall onto the corner of a desk whilst acting like a dick

We made sure that the authorities knew that we didn't want the **** back in our class too
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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This make me sound old but "when I was at school" (Catholic prep school) we used to get beatings like you would'nt believe.
Rulers, canes, slippers, shoes, paddles, cricket bats..... You name it we would get it across the hands, head or leg depending on the size of the implement.
No one was an idiot to the teachers, Everyone knew the boundaries, Now we are older we honestly accept it did us good.

I would have NO issue at all with my kids having a ruler across there knuckles if there are misbehaving. It would stop them ever thinking they can push teachers like this.

Just think if this kid had been getting a paddle across the back of his legs when he misbehaved maybe he wouldnt have acted up and got himself into the position he is now in.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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We expect too much of teachers in this respect, I think- they are educators, not parents. Sure that requires them to have some hand in the discipline, but the PC brigade has seen to it that they're very limited in what they can do in this respect.
The core problem is that many of these kids come from parents who don't give a s*it, thus the children more often than not adopt the same perspective.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Now whilst I wholeheartedly agree that the kid deserved "something" I'm not entirely convinced he deserved having a 2kg weight chucked at his head then being gripped in a headlock, dragged into a storecupboard and then being beaten across the temple with the 2kg weight and then beaten again (after 2 other kids, 1 of which was a girl were punched while trying to save him).

Still, at least he learned something valuable at school that day.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Still, at least he learned something valuable at school that day.

Oh yes he sure did
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Yes, the teacher really did teach him a lesson
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Its been reported that the boy was taunting the teacher and he snapped. Not really surprising with what we hear about the way children treat their teachers these days. His actions can't be excused of course but quite understandable. I would hate to be a teacher these days. No backing at all from the authorities when the children behave in an undisciplined manner. The parents bear a heavy responsiblity for the way their little "darlings" behave these days! Children should never be permitted to run the school as they think fit as the ultra PC Plonkers say they should!

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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What I put above is what actualy happened straight from a friends daughters mouth that was there
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Now whilst I wholeheartedly agree that the kid deserved "something" I'm not entirely convinced he deserved having a 2kg weight chucked at his head then being gripped in a headlock, dragged into a storecupboard and then being beaten across the temple with the 2kg weight and then beaten again (after 2 other kids, 1 of which was a girl were punched while trying to save him).

Still, at least he learned something valuable at school that day.

How anyone can understand this kind of behaviour towards a child is beyond me.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Trouble is, teachers now are bound by so much legislation to protect the kids as in the past there were some sadistic teachers who used to beat kids for no reason or go overboard given half a reason, now the kids have realised their hands are tied if they want to keep their jobs so act up accordingly.

If the kid had an ounce of decency he could avoided 2 kilos of cold steel.

The techer was trying to teach him a lesson, he hit him on the head, does this make him the new Head teacher ?
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cookstar
How anyone can understand this kind of behaviour towards a child is beyond me.
If the boy said that to the teacher after what he had been through, can you wonder at the fact that he lost it? I know it does not justify the teacher's actions, but there is just as much blame on the shoulders of the boy and his parents.

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
If the boy said that to the teacher after what he had been through, can you wonder at the fact that he lost it? I know it does not justify the teacher's actions, but there is just as much blame on the shoulders of the boy and his parents.

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I can understand the teacher becoming frustrated and angry, however he is an adult and therefore should know better, and be able to conduct himself properly.

If the guy was still suffering from a previous mental health issue and was not completely recovered, he should not have been cleared for work either.

Kids will be kids, some are sods some are not, whatever their actions in a classroom does not in any way justify violence with intent to cause serious harm on a minor.

Ask yourself what your actions would be if an adult took a metal weight to your child's head? No matter what he might have done to provoke it...
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Even teachers are human and can lose it, no, I wouldnt want a teacher beating my kids with metal weights but also I would be disgusted with them if they had been making a teachers life a misery, especially one that has been ill due to work stress.

Cant condone his actions but it was not without provocation, if you provoke someone you cannot guarantee the reaction, would it be newsworthy if the teacher had died of a stroke in the staff room, gone home and topped himself or simply carried on in abject misery ?

He needed to pick on a teacher without access to heavy weights, not Geography as they have lumps of "Igneous Bassalt" rock, PE teachers have all manner of kit, Metalwork teachers are out, home Economics would use a pan, history a skull so I think I would only pick on English or maths teachers as there is only limited damage you can do with a Romeo and Juliet script or a Key Stage 5 maths book, even Drama Teachers could do a really cutting and satirical mime about you as defence.

Remember as well, they are ALL trained at teacher training college on the Chalk and Board rubber firing range, they wont pass out from basic training and receive their leather elbow patches and Cornish Pastie style shoes if they cant hit the right kid at 20 feet with an inch long piece of chalk.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Dont pick on a PE teacher
I remember ours chasing a motorbike cutting up his field with a baseball bat and a cricket bat
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
even Drama Teachers could do a really cutting and satirical mime about you as defence.
No, not the mime! Please stop ...

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
When i was at school we had the last of the old school teachers before they retired.

One threw a kid out the classroom (literally), and down a flight of stairs, then threw a chair for him to sit on after him that hit/landed on him. Nothing was said about it and nothing done about it

Another used to pick up unruly kids by their ear or shirts and throw them accross the room

Proper control and respect. Just one whisper of Mr MacDougal or Mr Way is coming would have a whole study/dining hall fall of shouting kids completely silent in seconds.
But im betting the harshist treatment was saved for yours truely, right ?

Well - unless Matteeboys in the playground
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