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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
Are you saying its not a perfofmance car because its fwd ?.fwd has moved on fella
It has moved on yes. My standard WRX gets beat on a regular basis by my mates VXR and I am thinking of buying a second hand vxr myself. I have drove a Focus ST and it was very easy to break traction in 2nd gear. I like all the hot hatches except the Leon annd golf but come on mate you have to agree that fwd is the worst option.

I do like your motor mate but I couldn't spend that sort of money on a fwd hatch.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
What is is like in 2nd gear in the wet in a straight line on full throttle?

If that is OK, what if you have half a turn on the steering wheel and are trying to get out of a wet uphill corner on a rough patch of undulating tarmac?

Any lift off oversteer?

Are the bonnet vents functional or ornamental?

Can you debadge the RS bits easily?

How does it compare to a Scooby in the wet?

How would it compare to a 200 PSI Golf GTI not in terms of acceleration but in overall handling balance vs its power? Does it feel overpowered in comparison to its chassis, balanced, underpowered? How would it compare to a GTI as a daily driver? Have a 3 year old GTI... always shopping

Anyone like to make a comparison with a B7 RS4 or 335i in terms of performance, handling, body control etc?
can i answer this

in a strait line in second gear if you slam the throttle down you will get a LITTLE spin its strange iv had much lesser cars escorts/mondeos that will just spin for fun the RS is just diffrent it grips, feels like a 4wd

up hill in first it wont spin unless trying

ive never felt lift of understeer

bonnet vents are real

dont think RS bits will come off without damage/holes

in the wet you can still drive fast and be confident but i think id rather be in a scoob if in a race

its definetly not over powered ...............BRB
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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Dark colour could be good, but there does seem to be a bit of oversupply, and I just wonder if it has been a bit hyped? 6 & 14s to 100 is about the same as the old Golf with a chip.

Depends how well the Golf cleans up after its erm, nose job, after the wife took the bumper, grill, lights off, leaving me to cable tie the radiators up to drive it to be repaired LOL. All bolt on bits though. It was a really clean car before that

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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people are always comparing the RS with modded cars
ive also noticed the RS seems to be the new benchmark
as an everyday car i do about 200 miles a week and thats enough if you were using it for work and doing a few miles it would be a little hard

i keep saying it but it is a great car and makes driving fun again
ive been out for about 2hours just driving about tonight
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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over supply you will have to wait atleast a couple of months to get one at list price
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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I'm fairly tolerant to firm with the tyres on our present cars.

Would it in any way do shopping/cruising duties any less well than a GTI/135i/335i type of car?

I just don't understand why it takes 14 seconds to get to 100mph. Does it feel that slow?
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Ford Focus RS Mk. II vs BMW 335i Coupe - FastestLaps.com is interesting given the price and subtlety of a lightly used 335i.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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if i had the GTR id go for the BMW for a change from raw power
the RS will feel like a mini/slow GTR a bit raw when you want it

it has a pretty big boot for shopping
if your looking for subtle DONT buy an RS but blue can be more subtle
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/...97e6c5bed2.jpg
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve vRS
I'm pretty sure that the dealers and more importantly have ways of telling if a car is mapped.

The dealers won't check at service time or even a warranty claim for a duff stereo. However, go in with a fubar'd gearbox or turbo and I bet they do some digging.

After all, VW have a it more knowledge of their ECU and code than the likes of Revo, APR, Superchips etc.

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If they send the ecu off they can find out, but otherwise they havent got the means or enough of a reason to.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimpreza
It has moved on yes. My standard WRX gets beat on a regular basis by my mates VXR and I am thinking of buying a second hand vxr myself. I have drove a Focus ST and it was very easy to break traction in 2nd gear. I like all the hot hatches except the Leon annd golf but come on mate you have to agree that fwd is the worst option.

I do like your motor mate but I couldn't spend that sort of money on a fwd hatch.
You anywhere near london or essex fella? Will let you have a go in mine if you are, as honestly no other hothatch bar the new RS tunes up like a golf ed30 or leon cupra on the std turbo.

A map takes a ed30 or cupra to over 300bhp. It takes quite alot of work to get a VXR or Focus ST up to that level. And if you want more than 300bhp out of the vxr or focus and you need a big turbo.

ED30 and Leon Cupra go up to 360hp on everyday settings on the STD turbo. Mines goes past VXR's and ST's as if they are going backwards.

A stage 2 plus ed30/cupra is quicker than a rs4 when rolling
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Collect my UG RS In under 2 hours
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
Collect my UG RS In under 2 hours
yUcky Green?

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
Collect my UG RS In under 2 hours
Get some pics up! The green is my favourite colour for the RS
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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What about the hatchback STI? Surely that must be able to do about 360 BHP on the stock turbo?

Originally Posted by PovK1
You anywhere near london or essex fella? Will let you have a go in mine if you are, as honestly no other hothatch bar the new RS tunes up like a golf ed30 or leon cupra on the std turbo.

A map takes a ed30 or cupra to over 300bhp. It takes quite alot of work to get a VXR or Focus ST up to that level. And if you want more than 300bhp out of the vxr or focus and you need a big turbo.

ED30 and Leon Cupra go up to 360hp on everyday settings on the STD turbo. Mines goes past VXR's and ST's as if they are going backwards.

A stage 2 plus ed30/cupra is quicker than a rs4 when rolling
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PovK1
You anywhere near london or essex fella? Will let you have a go in mine if you are, as honestly no other hothatch bar the new RS tunes up like a golf ed30 or leon cupra on the std turbo.

A map takes a ed30 or cupra to over 300bhp. It takes quite alot of work to get a VXR or Focus ST up to that level. And if you want more than 300bhp out of the vxr or focus and you need a big turbo.

ED30 and Leon Cupra go up to 360hp on everyday settings on the STD turbo. Mines goes past VXR's and ST's as if they are going backwards.

A stage 2 plus ed30/cupra is quicker than a rs4 when rolling
Afraid I am from the North East mate. I agree completely mate but I am not interested in modding as I need the car to be as relaiable as possible and circa 250bhp is fast enough for me.
I'd love a second hand 335 M sport Coupe but they are still above 20k. 53 plate M3's are cheap enough now but |I am worried about reliabilty and running costs.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
What about the hatchback STI? Surely that must be able to do about 360 BHP on the stock turbo?
Yeah most likely, trouble with it though is the weight and added transmission losses of the 4wd system dulling straight line performance.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimpreza
Afraid I am from the North East mate. I agree completely mate but I am not interested in modding as I need the car to be as relaiable as possible and circa 250bhp is fast enough for me.
I'd love a second hand 335 M sport Coupe but they are still above 20k. 53 plate M3's are cheap enough now but |I am worried about reliabilty and running costs.

Thats fair enough. VXR's do sound better
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PovK1
Yeah most likely, trouble with it though is the weight and added transmission losses of the 4wd system dulling straight line performance.
More of that nonsense???
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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john heres a bmw vs RS vid Video: Ford Focus RS Triple Test - Sky Motoring Video
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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went out in someones focus st with the graham goode 300bhp conversion today and was shocked how well it coped with delivering the power . made mine feel slow
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
yUcky Green?

Simon

Attention seeker Green You seen it in the flesh ?

Originally Posted by PovK1
Get some pics up! The green is my favourite colour for the RS
Out with one of our club photographers tommorow , hopefully get a few nice pics


But boh oh boy what a car the RS is
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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nice one mate try get some pics of the small mods you have done
im geting my wheels painted on weds
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
More of that nonsense???
What car do you drive, do you even own one

YouTube - Golf GTI 30 edition vs m3 e46 (smg)

Originally Posted by Tiny
Attention seeker Green You seen it in the flesh ?



Out with one of our club photographers tommorow , hopefully get a few nice pics


But boh oh boy what a car the RS is
Cant wait to see the pics!
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
What about the hatchback STI? Surely that must be able to do about 360 BHP on the stock turbo?

stock turbo can hit 400 I hit fuel cut when mapping at that
new fuel pump is in now for more fuel flow so will see how it goes
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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PovK1 was you down Lakeside last saturday with another White Cupra?

Also what do these RS do down a 1/4 Strip

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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Darc174
PovK1 was you down Lakeside last saturday with another White Cupra?

Also what do these RS do down a 1/4 Strip

darc
13.76

acording to Car Stats - Front Wheel Drive
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Originally Posted by PovK1
What car do you drive, do you even own one

YouTube - Golf GTI 30 edition vs m3 e46 (smg)



Cant wait to see the pics!
Typical "cupra" muppet!

*yawns*





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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Very nice rob84, things have moved on nicely then! Should be able to do very low 12s on the quarter mile with that.

Yes I've seen the Sky test, surprised they didn't go for the 135i, the RS sounds nice though.

PovK1, I've always thought AWD losses are overestimated by dynos because very few FWD runs are done on AWD dynos with the rear wheels turning and all the drag that adds. For example, a Scooby with the same power at the wheels to weight ratio as an E46 M3 can pull away from it at speed despite worse aero.

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Originally Posted by Darc174
PovK1 was you down Lakeside last saturday with another White Cupra?

Also what do these RS do down a 1/4 Strip

darc
You live in south central......man?


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Originally Posted by paulwrxboro
Some interesting stats there, great site
Mine seems to do the 1/4 mile in 11.85 (and it's 4WD )
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