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Old 15 June 2009, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Gussy, mine maxed out either the injectors or fuel pump on the last map as it had to tail the boost off to 1.6bar after 5000rpm so its in pauls now for a tweak to these. Hopefully when its sorted my bhp will start with a 6
Steve i hope Paul can sort it out for you

But what i want from my car is not just 650bhp, i want quick spool up too
Old 15 June 2009, 07:47 AM
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Looking great so far Peter. Lots of technical issues there that i will enjoy seeing how you solve
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Gussy, mine maxed out either the injectors or fuel pump on the last map as it had to tail the boost off to 1.6bar after 5000rpm so its in pauls now for a tweak to these. Hopefully when its sorted my bhp will start with a 6
Steve are your running 11mm or 14mm head studs, as at that 600+ bhp I would want to be running 14mm head studs for peace of mind.

Great project Peter, a t04z equipped impreza made 638bhp on straight v power

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Old 15 June 2009, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Looking great so far Peter. Lots of technical issues there that i will enjoy seeing how you solve

Thanks Duncan
Old 15 June 2009, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Steve are your running 11mm or 14mm head studs, as at that 600+ bhp I would want to be running 14mm head studs for peace of mind.

Great project Peter, a t04z equipped impreza made 638bhp on straight v power

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Thanks Banny


I've got 14mm RCM head studs in there the now thank god.

Which scooby was that Banny?
Any links to it please?
Old 15 June 2009, 11:46 AM
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Peter I was down at Chy's and he mentioned it, think it was a guy called Andy Hughes.

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Originally Posted by Fai17
Steve i hope Paul can sort it out for you

But what i want from my car is not just 650bhp, i want quick spool up too

The t04z isn't a quick spooling turbo. Here is a graph from the evo and it uses the smallest housing and its on a 2.3ltr engine


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Old 15 June 2009, 08:05 PM
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Jesus H Christ..... over 190bhp transmission losses. roflol
Old 15 June 2009, 08:24 PM
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The transmission losses seem to may me think the rollers may read high He did say that it kept slipping on the rollers
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Originally Posted by stevebt
The t04z isn't a quick spooling turbo. Here is a graph from the evo and it uses the smallest housing and its on a 2.3ltr engine


That turbo is on a 2.3 evo so i hope i see better power lower down on my 2.5 with avcs engine.

TBH there is many variants with the T04Z turbo and as you know there are even more hybrids!
So here is me to hoping that mines ain't going to be as dead lower down but its must be **** hot at the top end tho!

Is his a twin scroll as you can get a single scroll version too?
Old 17 June 2009, 01:07 AM
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On with the 2nd header pipe
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And bang... 4 header pipes are on.
Wastegate pipes in place in ready for the 38mm V Band Tial
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Big thanks to Meercat for the hard work over the last few days and its on the the down pipe and exhaust tomorrow.

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Old 17 June 2009, 05:59 AM
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nice bit of work there mate keep it up
Old 17 June 2009, 07:18 PM
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[QUOTE=stevebt;8767062]The t04z isn't a quick spooling turbo. Here is a graph from the evo and it uses the smallest housing and its on a 2.3ltr engine


nothing a 50 shot of noz before boost wont solve. or flat foot shift
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Originally Posted by Fai17
On with the 2nd header pipe



And bang... 4 header pipes are on.



Wastegate pipes in place in ready for the 38mm V Band Tial



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Old 17 June 2009, 07:30 PM
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Peter - its looking good! We share the same builder!
Old 18 June 2009, 08:38 AM
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looking good, can't wait to see this finished
Old 19 June 2009, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JP4
Peter - its looking good! We share the same builder!
SO i've been told

You drive a WR1 don't you?
Old 19 June 2009, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by trails
looking good, can't wait to see this finished
Can't wait to see it finished myself....its been 10 months off the road now!
Old 19 June 2009, 07:48 AM
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Just think when you get it back and your used to it within the 1st week No more monster munch for you sir
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Originally Posted by Fai17
Can't wait to see it finished myself....its been 10 months off the road now!
sheesh, mines only been off the road for 5months and I'm really starting to miss it...especially after a blast in my friends 355 last night

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Originally Posted by stevebt
Just think when you get it back and your used to it within the 1st week No more monster munch for you sir


I'm not doing it anymore...no more mods for me for a while

How is your car Steve?
I spoke to Chy about the classic with the similar turbo.
640/580 comes to mind on plain 99 fuel.
I'm going to be running the scottie max mix
Old 19 June 2009, 10:58 AM
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Ok folks alot of progress has happened over the last few days.
The headers are all complete apart from the fitment of the 38mm V Band Tial wastegates.The wastegate entry pipe has been cut back to as short as possible to reduce the amount/volume in the headers prior to entry of turbo.Hopefully all these reduction will decrease spool up time.
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Next was the to try the headers on to the block and start fabricating the down pipe to suit.
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Pics of Meercat's hand welding....brilliant finish and near fish scale welds done by robots.
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Now on to the box for the side/front exit exhaust.I'm going for a side exit as i wanting to get rid of the exhast gas as quick as possible to maximise power and power band.It has been known that race cars have changed from the normal system and backbox to a side or front exit exhaust and gaining as much as 50bhp or so i've been told!Forgot to say that the box is re-packable...you'll see the bolts on the rear of the box.



And now for trial fitment of the bumper in place with the side/front box.
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Looking good so far...i like it.

Now for the tail tip.
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This project has been such a laugh!!
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More pics of the whole headers and down pipe set up.
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Enjoy......to be continued
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Wow

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Old 19 June 2009, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Wow
Old 19 June 2009, 11:42 AM
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that really is one bass-*** set up...it's going to sound like a jet engine with the blower up front too
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Originally Posted by trails
that really is one bass-*** set up...it's going to sound like a jet engine with the blower up front too

We will find out soon....ish!
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Originally Posted by Fai17
We will find out soon....ish!
you are gonna have to post a recording once its running
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Originally Posted by trails
you are gonna have to post a recording once its running
I will do
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Originally Posted by Fai17
I'm not doing it anymore...no more mods for me for a while

How is your car Steve?

No more mods eh??? Thats what I always say My car is at Zen getting some fueling mods and a little mapping done
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Originally Posted by Fai17
SO i've been told

You drive a WR1 don't you?
Yep - you may have seen it on your visit to Pennine's workshops. Looks like your scoob's gonna be a monster!

Was speaking to Chy the other day......believe he will be unleashing 3 of his builds fairly soon.

Gd follow up pics btw - like your attention to detail stylee.


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