Alan C

RafaelChandler

Alan

Great to see you and the family on Friday, and thank you for the great comments, really glad you enjoyed them.

Sorry the place is a bit small, you all seemed a bit cramped in the shop, but glad you made it over and look forward to seeing you soon for a spin in the BM.

Shame sticky couldnt make it but will hopefully see you soon, if not at the shop then hopefully at a meet sometime soon.

Oh and the Stelvio trip you were mentioning for next year Alan sounds like a top plan, I dont know how ill make it in an oil burning Scirocco, but maybe Martin will lend me his Subaru lol.


See you all soon
Raf

BRI STI

Stelvio i here !! might see you there next year..

Alan C

Wasn't too bad in the corner.... Not sure if the customers standing in the rain approved though... If Sticky had been there they'd have been shouting orders through the window...

Scott - I didn't realise you were so close. Better plan next time will be to get the F&C and go around your gaff for a cuppa!!

Bri... I can't make it this year due to my 25th.. but if next year is a goer then we can discuss then....

Sticky Stuff

Well I'm going next year...

...and this

DaveSTI350

Yep! Looks great Bri.. I can't wait 10 passes!!!! will be a fantastic trip. And great hotel. Looking forward to the crossing on the ferry to will be great fun with some great people !!

STELVIO!!!!! Here we come!!!

DaveSTI350

Oh..... sorry back to the fish & chips...

You do all know that great britains favourite take away is curry..

Will pop over tho Raf to say hello and have a sample mate..


All the best

Dave

corradoboy

Sticky's got an iPhone He'll be replacing his decrepit old desktops next time they break (which won't be long ) with something fast, reliable, stylish and durable next

Cue p!$$ taking

Alan C

You asked for it....

What you meant to say was over hyped, overpriced, flashy and supported by people with rose coloured glasses who harp on and on and on and on and on and on all the time about un-proven, speed, reliability, style (this from a man who models for C&A ) and durability....

i.e and in a nutshell Corporate estates don't buy them for very good reasons. Specialist markets? Agreed... but for real world where real world people live doing real world stuff? Get a PC.

Anyway... I've just upgraded to Windows 7 RC build 7100 and it's pretty darn good!!

corradoboy

AppleInsider | Apple responds to Microsoft ads: "a PC is no bargain"
Yeah
YouTube - Gadget Show: All-in-one PCs, iMac vs Sony vs HP
My own 10yo laptop and the raft of old Macs at w*rk which have never seen an engineer mean nothing I suppose, whereas our office PC's are on an 18 month continuous refresh cycle unless they explode earlier.
See above.


You decide

I won't change you, you won't change me. PC's are good for offices, but I don't live or w*rk in an office. In my home I prefer the Mac, and for my w*rk it is significantly better in every way, PROVEN !

Alan C

Alan C

Problem is mate, you work in graphics, 99% of us do not.

Graphics people have taken to them because they do indeed have an edge, this isn't just a small performance placebo, but mostly historical because the software written has been and is MAC based and has open source abilities.

Both in the bank and the job I do now, nothing, I repeat nothing, will work effectively on a MAC (we do have a couple in the graphics dept...). All of my forensics, wireless and other network tools & services will not work. If I can find something similar then I have to know command line programming and be a script kiddie to get the best out of it...

They are simply gimmicks of style over real world substance.. Nothing more. The fact that the world revolves around PC's proves that fact convincingly. The better standard wins out every time.

The fact that you drive a Skoda and spend your time convincing us of its merits (no doubt there are some...but its still a Skoda) proves you have a following in life to walk a different path and to convince the rest of us that we're wrong....

corradoboy

I guess a million Corsa owners can't be wrong And who needs Gordon F'ing Ramsey when there's McDonalds

PC's have there place, firmly secured by mass adoption in the business field and supported by a massive raft of software and peripherals which indeed make them almost untouchable in that environment. Bill played a master stroke business-wise and legally when he suckered IBM in the 70's, and Steve followed a different path which was nowhere near as successful, although recently his business deals have seen him catch up to Bill in the wealth stakes. Mac's cannot make a dent in the big business arena, and they don't try to. Indeed, if I was part of a big business with a large data infrastructure I wouldn't consider them at all. However, for my application in both work and home they are completely suited and have been mostly faultless and satisfactory for many years. If we consider the person whom I originally commented on, his business is very close to my own, and yet he will not consider them either, but admits to having many, serious problems with his current (when I last visited his premises anyway) equipment. I have several other friends in exactly the same business as him all using Mac and finding the thought of using PC extremely laughable, although they all have some MS based equipment to run their offices. When I consider my home environment, I don't have low static, dust absorbing carpet tiles, fluorescent strip lighting, suspended ceilings, 5 leg rise/tilt castor-wheeled chairs and desks with modesty panels, nor drink crap coffee from a plastic vending cup, so why would I want my home computing experience to mimic that environment ? Personally, i prefer....



...to...



Notice how I agree with you, mostly.

Sticky Stuff

Actually...

It HAS to be the coolest gadget on the planet right now.

I'm currently sat in the back garden using the iPiddle to control the music we're listening to via the PC, aswell as writing this reply.

Everything syncs smoothly first time (Are you listening HTC / Microsoft?)

The interface is faultless

...and it's making me consider a Mac. Seriously

Sticky Stuff

Dave, nothing personal at all mate, but once in a (long) while Al comes out with a fookin' classic line...

corradoboy

Classic Flawed

I know the limits of our Skoda's, and can only justify them for the reasoning behind my purchasing. They are very good cars for the money, but you all know if I could afford to run a Scoob as well as pay off my mortgage to allow us to emigrate to Cornwall I would. If I could do this and run a Scoob as a second car, and a 335D Touring for H, and an Atom for fun then I would. For now, the fact that our two week break in Cornwall saw us use £300 less of fuel than the same jaunt in the Scoob, and yet, thanks to some funky new rubber and a rear ARB which would humble what was on my Scoob, I was able to still fully enjoy the wonderful Cornish B-roads. If I'd sold the Scoob and taken on the second career sooner I might have been putting an offer on THIS on Monday

corradoboy

Oh, Andy, I'm sure you've got it already.....

Dynolicious : Automotive Data Logging Tools for Mobile Devices

http://www.bunsentech.com/projects/dynolicious/

Alan C

I'm surprised you've never gone down the Mac route in your line of work. In fact I'd recommend it. Dave even agreed with the graphics thing.....

The iphone & ipod I can relate too. The older iphone had issues, but I'm hearing good things about the newer OS. You seem to back that up....

Dave - You need to get some better techs on those PC's chap. Both places I've worked had hundreds of Dell laptops used by road warriors and we had handfuls of issues a year. If that. So it's not quite the picture of the PC house rammed full of techs busy all day long fixing PC's with users screaming for simplicity and more reliability and spending 70% of their time waiting for the PC to work and run whilst the Mac office next door sip their latte's in the cool, airconditioned, low voltage lighting world and laugh at their amazing productivity and stress free life and at the bedlam and poor, deluded and suckered souls next door.

Trust me, with the job I'm in, if I thought the Mac made life easier, less complicated and more efficient I'd be sat here typing on the latest Apple, rather than eating one.

But I'm not. I'm sat on a several year old P4 with Windows 7 and 1.5 GB or RAM and a few 80GB hard drives. Playing all the latest games, visiting all the latest streaming sites and running MS Ofiice and a host of other stuff with no issues....

I really must get a new one... sometime.

Sticky Stuff

Nope, thought there must be something like that available, but not got round to looking.

I do have RunKeeper though, which has done a very good job of tracking my ride around Ladybower today.

DaveSTI350

Anyhow..... back to the chips...... lol

corradoboy

We never went off topic, really ! Micro chips

Alan C

Beautiful. How much will that go for??

corradoboy

I get the impression that it's been on the market a while, and subsequently the previous owners have moved leaving it now vacant, and hence the 'offers' pricing. When we first spotted it it was at £195k, but I'd be thinking of an offer of maybe £140k in the current market.

DaveSTI350

ok..... back to the fish & chips.... lol.....

Sticky Stuff

Ooh... What's been happening? Enlighten us

imf1

iTrader: (2)

nosey ******

Sticky Stuff

Yup

gazza1455

now then fella,i live in horsforth so ur not far from me so i will call in at some point on thursday evning, can't wait.