litchfield twin scroll turbo
Think I would tend to agree with Shaun...the 2.5 may give better torque but the blocks do seem prone to the liners lifting/moving and therefore popping head gaskets 
If a (later) stock 2.0 Sti block, UK or JDM, can take 500bhp without problem, then 2.1 really does seem the way to go...wish I had with hindsight, as I had a perfectly servicable 2.0l block when I went 2.5.
It's called experience I guess

If a (later) stock 2.0 Sti block, UK or JDM, can take 500bhp without problem, then 2.1 really does seem the way to go...wish I had with hindsight, as I had a perfectly servicable 2.0l block when I went 2.5.
It's called experience I guess
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 16,548
Likes: 2
From: ECU Mapping - www.JollyGreenMonster.co.uk
The bugeye, and blobeye sti engines all take 450 without issue, they make more power on the same mods the newer the engine I find.
My suspicion being the heads amd cams are better but I am not sure. Seeing 350 common place on ppp sti 05 and saw 345 on an 04 this week.
Pushed probably 20odd to 400+ a dozen to 450 but very few to 500.
Therefore regardless of whether 01 to 05 there should be no reason to not run it at 450 is setup correct and with appropriate supporting mods.
450+ will depend on owners assessment of the risk at the moment until more out there running 500 imho
Simon
My suspicion being the heads amd cams are better but I am not sure. Seeing 350 common place on ppp sti 05 and saw 345 on an 04 this week.
Pushed probably 20odd to 400+ a dozen to 450 but very few to 500.
Therefore regardless of whether 01 to 05 there should be no reason to not run it at 450 is setup correct and with appropriate supporting mods.
450+ will depend on owners assessment of the risk at the moment until more out there running 500 imho
Simon
The bugeye, and blobeye sti engines all take 450 without issue, they make more power on the same mods the newer the engine I find.
My suspicion being the heads amd cams are better but I am not sure. Seeing 350 common place on ppp sti 05 and saw 345 on an 04 this week.
Pushed probably 20odd to 400+ a dozen to 450 but very few to 500.
Therefore regardless of whether 01 to 05 there should be no reason to not run it at 450 is setup correct and with appropriate supporting mods.
450+ will depend on owners assessment of the risk at the moment until more out there running 500 imho
Simon
My suspicion being the heads amd cams are better but I am not sure. Seeing 350 common place on ppp sti 05 and saw 345 on an 04 this week.
Pushed probably 20odd to 400+ a dozen to 450 but very few to 500.
Therefore regardless of whether 01 to 05 there should be no reason to not run it at 450 is setup correct and with appropriate supporting mods.
450+ will depend on owners assessment of the risk at the moment until more out there running 500 imho
Simon
Cheers
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 11,479
Likes: 27
From: MY99UK-MY02STi-MY99Type R-MY06 T20-MY11 340R-MY05 TYPE25
Finally got my LM400 on a Rolling road today at Powerstation.
I had the full Lm400 package but I had the Induction kit removed and Iain put the standard OEM Airbox back on for me.
I probably lost about 15-20bhp but the car still made 403bhp
Hopefully iain wont charge me now for a LM403
LOL
Tony
I had the full Lm400 package but I had the Induction kit removed and Iain put the standard OEM Airbox back on for me.
I probably lost about 15-20bhp but the car still made 403bhp
Hopefully iain wont charge me now for a LM403
LOLTony
Finally got my LM400 on a Rolling road today at Powerstation.
I had the full Lm400 package but I had the Induction kit removed and Iain put the standard OEM Airbox back on for me.
I probably lost about 15-20bhp but the car still made 403bhp
Hopefully iain wont charge me now for a LM403
LOL
Tony
I had the full Lm400 package but I had the Induction kit removed and Iain put the standard OEM Airbox back on for me.
I probably lost about 15-20bhp but the car still made 403bhp
Hopefully iain wont charge me now for a LM403
LOLTony



:wond er:
No one has done a back to back that I am aware of and the currently available LM's are not Billet....... yet! 
The LM's are dearer, but I believe are made out of higher grade cast materials and the exhaust housings are ceramic coated as standard. Theorectically the exhaust housings will be less prone to cracking on LM's than most other turbos available.

The LM's are dearer, but I believe are made out of higher grade cast materials and the exhaust housings are ceramic coated as standard. Theorectically the exhaust housings will be less prone to cracking on LM's than most other turbos available.
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 11,479
Likes: 27
From: MY99UK-MY02STi-MY99Type R-MY06 T20-MY11 340R-MY05 TYPE25
Well Iain said in a few months. But also talk of Tungsten and Billet combination.
Tony
Last edited by T5NYW; Dec 5, 2010 at 08:23 PM.
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 11,479
Likes: 27
From: MY99UK-MY02STi-MY99Type R-MY06 T20-MY11 340R-MY05 TYPE25
Tony it's not Tungston..... it's something else. I would say what but I was told not to say anything!
You need to clean your ears out! 
BTW... you keep your extra 5bhp and I will keep my 380+ lbft.
You need to clean your ears out! 
BTW... you keep your extra 5bhp and I will keep my 380+ lbft.
Hi Tim, i have a LM480 like you, but i have a big problem to install it !
it is too far forward and sideways.
I have a exhaust manifold twin scroll JDM.
Have you had the same problem with this turbo ?


it is too far forward and sideways.
I have a exhaust manifold twin scroll JDM.
Have you had the same problem with this turbo ?


I know the bellhousing flange had to have some taken off mine to get it to fit - probably worth a call to Iain Litchfield for advice?
And is your inlet manifold a JDM or UK STi one? If it isn't JDM then the tumble generator assembly might make the silicone intake pipe harder to fit/align maybe?
And is your inlet manifold a JDM or UK STi one? If it isn't JDM then the tumble generator assembly might make the silicone intake pipe harder to fit/align maybe?
OK - I have heard of someone else having a problem with an inlet manifold that wasn't a JDM one - the JDM one has no tumble generator assembly so there's much more space.
And you definitely have to grind away the bellhousing area otherwise it will not fit.
I really do recommend you speak to Iain - he's very helpful
No photos - I'll see if I can take one in a few hours time.
And you definitely have to grind away the bellhousing area otherwise it will not fit.
I really do recommend you speak to Iain - he's very helpful

No photos - I'll see if I can take one in a few hours time.
OK - I have heard of someone else having a problem with an inlet manifold that wasn't a JDM one - the JDM one has no tumble generator assembly so there's much more space.
And you definitely have to grind away the bellhousing area otherwise it will not fit.
I really do recommend you speak to Iain - he's very helpful
And you definitely have to grind away the bellhousing area otherwise it will not fit.
I really do recommend you speak to Iain - he's very helpful

No photos - I'll see if I can take one in a few hours time.
Last edited by coper04; Dec 6, 2010 at 11:35 AM.
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 11,479
Likes: 27
From: MY99UK-MY02STi-MY99Type R-MY06 T20-MY11 340R-MY05 TYPE25
IIRC. 95% of all LM's Turbos require the bell housing bit ground off so they fit.
Is yours a 2.5ltr model?? By fitting a JDM exhaust header to a 2.5lr EU/UK STi will not make it the same fitnent as a 2.0ltr JDM. I believe the Sump and inlet manifolds are also different.
Tony
Is yours a 2.5ltr model?? By fitting a JDM exhaust header to a 2.5lr EU/UK STi will not make it the same fitnent as a 2.0ltr JDM. I believe the Sump and inlet manifolds are also different.
Tony
Last edited by T5NYW; Dec 6, 2010 at 05:43 PM.
I am sure Ian will get bck to you soon I also sent him an e-mail today to book the R205 in for an LM400 and have not heard back yet neither.
If you car is an EU spec car have you changed your headers to twinscroll?
Immy








