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Old 19 February 2009, 09:01 PM
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arn't you confusing the issue of celebrity with the issue of humanity
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Originally Posted by Dieseldog
No, and no-one has suggested it is. What I see is two different approaches - two people facing the same end chose different paths. One raises money for charity - giving something back to society, the other raises money for her kids. Yet the nation works itself up into a Peoples-Princess, Commemorative-Plate-Buying, Book-of-Condolence-Signing, gawking, voyeuristic frenzy about the latter. Quite simply Britain is moronic. We are f*cked.

Don't worry, there's still 10% of us with a brain cell Sadly some of those run The Sun et al and see this as a good way to make shed loads of money....
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Old 19 February 2009, 09:15 PM
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Charity begins at home, I would make sure my kids were the first priority.
Jade has already donated large sums of money to charity, including all the money she raised for celebrity BB.
I have never been a big Jade lover but I admire her for doing what she has done even if it is not to everyone's taste.
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What I find amazing is that people seem to find a dying person getting money from the press objectionable - money which they won't even benefit from.

Yet the parents of *deep breath* Chavy Mc Chav, "whoops I just got knocked up by a 13 year old who looks like he was 8, or was it one of several other boys on the estate who also jumped on board before I was even legal, I don't know, but now the state can look after me, just like it's looked after mum and her 8 gazillion kids" *and breath again* are allowed to rake in a fortune from the tabloids off the back of a story that would make any decent person so ashamed that they would pay the press NOT to publicise this prime example of everything that is wrong with Britain today!

The sickening thing is that the taxpayers (that's you and I folks, you know, people who have a job and stuff) are already funding perfectly able bodied and healthy morons like this, so they can sit on their fat ***** and do nothing else but swill Stella, stuff down kebabs and breed children that they are incapable of looking after and who therefore get condemned to the same fate. Still, the 1000s upon 1000s the tabloids are paying them for their affair that amounts to a f*cking national embarrassment will go towards making a better future for their kids, right?

Put it this way: I reckon the manager of the local Labrooks and pie house are rubbing their hands together.

You want to resent people benefiting from the press, I'd suggest you pick on those who'll be around long enough to continue profiting from their ill gotten gains and who'll continue to perpetuate the rot that is pervading modern Britain!

And the end of the day we should ALL be grateful our prospects for a decent lifespan are sufficiently good that we can get worked up about this s*it. As Pete so wisely said, that's not a luxury you have when you've been told you'd best sort out your affairs as you've only got a few months left!

We should ALL also be grateful that this might serve as a prompt for more young women to get regular smear tests. It might just save someone you do actually give a s*it about having to go though this!

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Old 20 February 2009, 01:24 PM
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Jade attracts Living's best ever audience

  • Published: 20 February 2009 11:58
Jade Goody

The plight of reality star Jade Goody, who is suffering from terminal cancer, helped Living gain its largest ever audience last night with a total of 929,000 viewers.

The hour-long show, Jade, attracted an initial 709,000 (3.3%) at 9pm and then pulled in 220,000 on Living +1. The programme was up a massive 366% on the channel's slot average for last year of 152,000 (0.8%).
Jade started off with 588,000 (2.8%) but rapidly rose to hit a high of 781,000 (3.7%) halfway through. It finished the final 15 minutes with 759,000 (3.6%).
Living's previously highest rated show was the finale of America's Next Top Model in 2007, which achieved a total audience (including +1) of 859,000 (4.4%) on 23 April at 9pm.
Living found itself in the rare position of being top of the multichannel pile with Jade, even outshining entertainment channels that have a Freeview slot.
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That's pretty significant and I even had to 'tape' it for the Missus I doubt she was being horrible/abusive and effin and blindin in this bit of TV so hope those that watched got something positive from it...
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Jade attracts Living's best ever audience
  • Published: 20 February 2009 11:58
Jade Goody

The plight of reality star Jade Goody, who is suffering from terminal cancer, helped Living gain its largest ever audience last night with a total of 929,000 viewers.

The hour-long show, Jade, attracted an initial 709,000 (3.3%) at 9pm and then pulled in 220,000 on Living +1. The programme was up a massive 366% on the channel's slot average for last year of 152,000 (0.8%).
Jade started off with 588,000 (2.8%) but rapidly rose to hit a high of 781,000 (3.7%) halfway through. It finished the final 15 minutes with 759,000 (3.6%).
Living's previously highest rated show was the finale of America's Next Top Model in 2007, which achieved a total audience (including +1) of 859,000 (4.4%) on 23 April at 9pm.
Living found itself in the rare position of being top of the multichannel pile with Jade, even outshining entertainment channels that have a Freeview slot.
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That's pretty significant and I even had to 'tape' it for the Missus I doubt she was being horrible/abusive and effin and blindin in this bit of TV so hope those that watched got something positive from it...
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Hence the saying in the media: if it bleeds, it leads!

But as you say, something positive may come out of this other than more cash for the TV network in that some of the young women that the audience would have been comprised of may now have a smear test that they might not have otherwise have had done, which may just save their lives.
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i just fail to see why anyone brings money into this, just seems like a touch of "money envy"

she makes alot of money doing not alot -- well thats not news

and as I said in an earlier post lets not confuse the cult of celebrity with feeling compassion for a young familly about to loose a mother
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
i just fail to see why anyone brings money into this, just seems like a touch of "money envy"

she makes alot of money doing not alot -- well thats not news

and as I said in an earlier post lets not confuse the cult of celebrity with feeling compassion for a young familly about to loose a mother
Quite, but you and I and countless others have all said the same thing earlier on the thread - I guess its too much to expect for the 'hardcore' to accept!
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This thread needs to be binned.
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Originally Posted by rr_ww
If you require The Sun's front page to make you take an interest in your physical health. You already have a mental imbalance! Lets ban cars/smoking/bungee jumping/portable gas stoves/free will

Hey, if it saves one life





Oh look, the same papers who condem her now think she's a brave little soldier!



Presumably she managed to do that when she was off in India BB whoring herself instead of in the UK collecting test results? Or maybe when she abandoned her kids to be on BB twice?

And I consider calling her Brave to be the biggest insult imaginable. Example, the guy who threw himself on a Live grenade to save his colleagues. Or any number of other incidents where people put themselves in harms way to help others. Police, Fire, Paramedics.




You sir/madam? Are an imbecile whose emotions are controlled by what you read in the Tabloids. Cancer affect 1 in 3 of us. Care about the people you know, don't ignore them to sho the world how much you identify with some Hate filled troll who ***** herself on the media at every oppurtunity. Who tried to claim "its for her kids" when actually shes trying to erase the memories of her venomous ignorant trap. A woman with so little concern for her children she intends to subject them to her actual moment of death on TV!

I wonder if she didn't have kids whether she'd do the same things?

Probably. Its all a Max Clifford campaign and like everything he does. its about making him and the clinet money. Not some campaign to get every woman Cervical smear tests. If it was there'd be a charity tie in. Notice how there isnt?

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Originally Posted by Jamie
This thread needs to be binned.
I wonder why!

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Gordon Brown has made a statement regarding Jade Goody. This is getting ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
Gordon Brown has made a statement regarding Jade Goody. This is getting ridiculous.
Instead of making a statement about Jade Goody he should be explaining how and why he has managed to get us into a recession. Like we're really arsed about what he has to say!!

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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
i just fail to see why anyone brings money into this, just seems like a touch of "money envy"

she makes alot of money doing not alot -- well thats not news

and as I said in an earlier post lets not confuse the cult of celebrity with feeling compassion for a young familly about to loose a mother

Its not abou the money to me.

Its about

1) "the cult of celebrity" and why the media glorifies these people to sell papers
2) Why I should feel compassion for those that deserve it. Respect is earned not just given without question because you happen to be dying (like millions of others)
3) She leaches off society. She's not even trying to raise money for Marsden! Great moral example to set your children!
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Originally Posted by rr_ww

1) "the cult of celebrity" and why the media glorifies these people to sell papers
Is that her fault?

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2) Why I should feel compassion for those that deserve it. Respect is earned not just given without question because you happen to be dying (like millions of others)
That is dumb! What has respect got to do with it? Compassion and respect are totally separate. If you saw a young kid get hit by a car, would you turn a blind eye because you had no respect? All the people who suffer in the world, you probably know 0.0000001% of them, yet give to a single charity that helps them, and you have shown compassion, but what have they done to earn your respect?

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3) She leaches off society. She's not even trying to raise money for Marsden! Great moral example to set your children!
She doesn't leach off anyone, people are obviously interested in her, whether you are or not. The media may have created her, but if the public lost interest they would move on to someone else.

You seem unable to divorce your envy/dislike of people who have become successful for seemingly nothing from a basic human empathy.

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Originally Posted by rr_ww
2) Why I should feel compassion for those that deserve it. Respect is earned not just given without question because you happen to be dying (like millions of others)
but again its not about respect -- which I agree needs to be earned, but does compassion -- imo not in the same way

do I respect Jade -- well thats an entirley different question than do I have compassion for her

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Old 20 February 2009, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer

You seem unable to divorce your dislike of people who have become successful for seemingly nothing from a basic human empathy.

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Not quite. I just have a finite amount of Empathy and strangely I pick and choose who gets it.

But then if you beleive everyone deserves basic human empathy, presumably you'll have the same feelings for everybody regardless of how they lived their life. From charity worker right through to serial killer


In related news. Jeff Brazier the father "for the kids" is worth an estimated £40M. So if Goodys tabloid/TV payments aren't actually needed "for the kids" does that mean she'll be leaving it all to the Marsden. Or maybe setting up her Charity Trust in her name.

Maybe that's why she's marying the BF so he gets the money.

Or maybe as summised above, it's not about the money really. Its all about trying to make people forget just what sort of person she was and how she lived her life. What? The media trying to pull a fast one? Never!
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Default I'm going to be really rude regarding Jade Goody.

I fully appreciate that this girl is dying and she wants as much media attention as possible so she can build a nest egg for her family but is all these NEWS FLASH updates via the BBC really News worthy?

I'm sick of sticking on the news and all it is about is "celebrities" and general bull****.
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
I fully appreciate that this girl is dying and she wants as much media attention as possible so she can build a nest egg for her family but is all these NEWS FLASH updates via the BBC really News worthy?

I'm sick of sticking on the news and all it is about is "celebrities" and general bull****.

Thanks for the news flash
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I don't think it is newsworthy, but if people want to see it then I guess it is.

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Jeff Brazier is not worth £40M! Where on earth did you get that idea from? He's only ever presented a couple of low budget shows on E4. He can't even afford to keep up the kids private education that Goody pays for.

I don't personally like her but I can't blame her for putting her kids first. If a few more parents did that, the world would be a better place. And deriding her for not living up to the standards of someone who was exceptionally unselfish is hardly fair, is it? Are you suggesting every cancer patient must immediately start charity work?
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FPMSL at this ad for 'Controversial' that came up here Search Results for 'Jade Goody Eau De Parfum' | Perfumes fragrances aftershaves and cologne at discount prices from CheapSmells.com

This does not mean I condone cancer or suffering in any way as I realise it is only diametric polar madly opposites permitted in this thread

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Originally Posted by rr_ww
If you require The Sun's front page to make you take an interest in your physical health. You already have a mental imbalance! Lets ban cars/smoking/bungee jumping/portable gas stoves/free will

Hey, if it saves one life

So let me get this clear, if the sun was to report an increase in say breast cancer and it revealed symptoms that allowed you to catch it early, you would ignore it because its written in the sun. I mean, imagine not having taken the time to go and research it yourself, along with the other thousands of illness' thats out there
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Originally Posted by rr_ww
Not quite. I just have a finite amount of Empathy and strangely I pick and choose who gets it.

But then if you beleive everyone deserves basic human empathy, presumably you'll have the same feelings for everybody regardless of how they lived their life. From charity worker right through to serial killer
Quite, but as has been pointed out many times, she is not a serial killer, habitual drug user, scum chav who leahces off the stats and taxpayers or anyting like that. As I said before, you are envious/resentful of her good fortune for seemingly nothing.


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In related news. Jeff Brazier the father "for the kids" is worth an estimated £40M. So if Goodys tabloid/TV payments aren't actually needed "for the kids" does that mean she'll be leaving it all to the Marsden. Or maybe setting up her Charity Trust in her name.

Maybe that's why she's marying the BF so he gets the money.
£40m? Hahahahahahahah, where on earth did you get that from. I doubt he is worth as much as her.

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Or maybe as summised above, it's not about the money really. Its all about trying to make people forget just what sort of person she was and how she lived her life. What? The media trying to pull a fast one? Never!
What exactly sort of person was she? She committed no crimes, earned (for want of a better term) her money, possibly a bit mouthy, not very bright. Hell, that just described large swathes of the population, and I bet some of your friends are like that. I do hope if any of them are unfortunate enough to get cance you treat them the same way, just to be consistent.....

You don't know her at all, you just dislike how she is portrayed.

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>>What exactly sort of person was she?<<

The 'R' word does come to mind - probably one of the ultimate switch offs for me.

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what pi55es me off is the preferential treatment these so called celebs seem to get (and i use the term celeb loosely).if it were joe public going through this would the gov still step in to have the husband to be's curfew lifted for the wedding night? i seriously doubt it so why is this situation any different?
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I think this whole affair should give us all cause to stop and think before judging people. I feel bad for the way I judged this poor girl based upon her fairly odd persona.
Only when you start to realise the kind of terrible and abusive upbringing this girl had do you start to understand why she is how she is, she barely went to school because her disabled and drug addicted mother stopped her, she was ritually abused by close relatives. Now the poor kids life is soon to end, and her completely understandable motives are to give her kids the chances she never had.
It just goes to show that we too easily throw around the terms 'scum' and 'chav', and rarely give any consideration to why people are as they are. This is not to excuse people for their poor behaviour, but it is too understand why.
The whole Jade Goodie affair is a reflection of how intollerant and hypocritical our society has become.
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Is this thread still going

She is dying, end of. She is looking out for her kids, end of. Do I like her, No, end of.

I can give some compassion, as I cannot begin to imagine how she must be feeling. 27 and months to live. Hell, that is scary
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