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18 March 2009, 04:15 PM
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its fascinating the read all this info on the little 3 series bmw.
Amazing info about gearboxs and paddles.
Just one question.
Have they started to install indicator stalks yet in the vehicles or is it still a case for the rest of the driving public to guess where ****** bolloxs the rep car driver actually intends to go, or which lane he fancies being in ????
come to think of it, an off switch for the front fog lights would be handy too.
Amazing info about gearboxs and paddles.
Just one question.
Have they started to install indicator stalks yet in the vehicles or is it still a case for the rest of the driving public to guess where ****** bolloxs the rep car driver actually intends to go, or which lane he fancies being in ????
come to think of it, an off switch for the front fog lights would be handy too.
18 March 2009, 05:56 PM
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The owner even posted a blog about it as he was so amazed that his 335d could be shown a clean set of heals.
I've also done a 330d sport too that is remapped to 292bhp / 510ft/lbs.
All I could hear was the distance sound of DAGADAGADAGA as I left him behind whilst he was violently flooring it in a effort to get every last ounce of power out of it.
Mind you, mine is a genuine tricolour badge and not one of the M-sport crap that people buy cos they can't afford the real thing
18 March 2009, 09:53 PM
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its fascinating the read all this info on the little 3 series bmw.
Amazing info about gearboxs and paddles.
Just one question.
Have they started to install indicator stalks yet in the vehicles or is it still a case for the rest of the driving public to guess where ****** bolloxs the rep car driver actually intends to go, or which lane he fancies being in ????
come to think of it, an off switch for the front fog lights would be handy too.
Amazing info about gearboxs and paddles.
Just one question.
Have they started to install indicator stalks yet in the vehicles or is it still a case for the rest of the driving public to guess where ****** bolloxs the rep car driver actually intends to go, or which lane he fancies being in ????
come to think of it, an off switch for the front fog lights would be handy too.
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18 March 2009, 10:16 PM
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love that, good quote Alan 
19 March 2009, 08:58 PM
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hope this thread doesnt deteriorate into a stupid 'Ive got a car with 1700bhp that will blow any diesel into the weeds and it makes my ***** get bigger as i drive it' thread.
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19 March 2009, 09:01 PM
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Jasonius... I'll be arranging a RR session at AET Turbos in Normanton for my Blufin when it (finally) arrives. You're welcome to come along mate... we can find a pub afterwards...
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20 March 2009, 01:13 AM
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1) Diesel drivers bang on about how awesome their cars are at rolling start motorway pulls.
2) Someone dares suggest that while they're quick, they're not mind-blowing in absolute terms, just diesel ones.
3) Derv pilots then trot out the same old 'remap/DMS/bluefun/etc' lines and 'come see me then' and winky smilies galore.
They usually get upset at the next point which is:
4) Someone dares suggest that petrol cars have been tunable for quite some time now, there's some pretty well established brawlers in the 50-150 'motorway pull' bracket, and that if they want to join this party they better be damn sure about what they're getting into because this is the big boys club now, and some of them are quite capable of putting even the latest diesels firmly in their place with little more tuning 'effort' than many of the methods they use.
This usually results in:
5) Qualifying it with talk about spec/comfort/equipment/MPG/etc as if these details have suddenly become the most important in the world and who cares about silly rolling starts anyway.
20 March 2009, 09:45 AM
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crikey- that turned out to strike a nerve !! sorry haven't spent that much time on the internet to realise it must have been some BMW trueism.
Anyhow- I still don't know the answer- are they fitting indicator stalks to their cars as a mandatory feature ?
are the front fog lights able to be turned off at all ?
don't be so sensitive- all in jest--- of course if you keep chucking money at any car you can get it to be better than standard. its still a pokey little reps car, as the impreza is chavtastic in reality.
I can see some passion, some soul, some purpose in an impreza. 3 series bmw- just another bland euro box. very capable- true- but just another souless lump of metal.
Anyhow- I still don't know the answer- are they fitting indicator stalks to their cars as a mandatory feature ?
are the front fog lights able to be turned off at all ?
don't be so sensitive- all in jest--- of course if you keep chucking money at any car you can get it to be better than standard. its still a pokey little reps car, as the impreza is chavtastic in reality.
I can see some passion, some soul, some purpose in an impreza. 3 series bmw- just another bland euro box. very capable- true- but just another souless lump of metal.
20 March 2009, 09:56 AM
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I know what your saying, it's just that the number of cars and I'm talking about well modded petrol cars that are capable of this 'mind blowing' performance, is very small.
All I'm really trying to say is that the bar has significantly gone up, being pushed by a fairly common, very mildly modded diesel..!
Again, it's going to be very interesting watching the diesel Seats in the WTCC this year. It remains to be seen how they continue to do, but they've already performed very well in areas they shouldn't really have..! I recon if a diesel wins the championship it will open the floodgates.
Lol, Alan, I was referring to your 'Ginger' (beer?) comment..
All I'm really trying to say is that the bar has significantly gone up, being pushed by a fairly common, very mildly modded diesel..!
Again, it's going to be very interesting watching the diesel Seats in the WTCC this year. It remains to be seen how they continue to do, but they've already performed very well in areas they shouldn't really have..! I recon if a diesel wins the championship it will open the floodgates.
Lol, Alan, I was referring to your 'Ginger' (beer?) comment..
20 March 2009, 12:27 PM
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It's kind of my point though. I see it time and again on here:
1) Diesel drivers bang on about how awesome their cars are at rolling start motorway pulls.
2) Someone dares suggest that while they're quick, they're not mind-blowing in absolute terms, just diesel ones.
3) Derv pilots then trot out the same old 'remap/DMS/bluefun/etc' lines and 'come see me then' and winky smilies galore.
They usually get upset at the next point which is:
4) Someone dares suggest that petrol cars have been tunable for quite some time now, there's some pretty well established brawlers in the 50-150 'motorway pull' bracket, and that if they want to join this party they better be damn sure about what they're getting into because this is the big boys club now, and some of them are quite capable of putting even the latest diesels firmly in their place with little more tuning 'effort' than many of the methods they use.
This usually results in:
5) Qualifying it with talk about spec/comfort/equipment/MPG/etc as if these details have suddenly become the most important in the world and who cares about silly rolling starts anyway.
1) Diesel drivers bang on about how awesome their cars are at rolling start motorway pulls.
2) Someone dares suggest that while they're quick, they're not mind-blowing in absolute terms, just diesel ones.
3) Derv pilots then trot out the same old 'remap/DMS/bluefun/etc' lines and 'come see me then' and winky smilies galore.
They usually get upset at the next point which is:
4) Someone dares suggest that petrol cars have been tunable for quite some time now, there's some pretty well established brawlers in the 50-150 'motorway pull' bracket, and that if they want to join this party they better be damn sure about what they're getting into because this is the big boys club now, and some of them are quite capable of putting even the latest diesels firmly in their place with little more tuning 'effort' than many of the methods they use.
This usually results in:
5) Qualifying it with talk about spec/comfort/equipment/MPG/etc as if these details have suddenly become the most important in the world and who cares about silly rolling starts anyway.
But unless someone comes on to explain why said Scoob was beaten by a Diesel then people will remain in the dark as to the advances in the technology that allow for such excellent performance...
That's really as far as we can go too as there's no point in comparing apples and oranges...
To me the car that sums up the pointless nature of any of these comparisons is the Atom. My good mate Dazza's Atom was the eipitome of performance (he had the full monty 300 version and could destroy practically anything... including most Bikes) and sparseness. The only creature comforts were a thin pillow to sit on and a Halfords Airfreshner (simply genius
)Quite possibly the best car ever made for the extremes in grin factor...
31 March 2009, 01:46 PM
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It's not definitive, but Top Gear Power Lap times are as follows:
WRX STI 1.28.2
Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1
BMW 535d 1.31.8
This would appear to prove that an STI should be able to show a 535d a clean pair of heels. Presumably 530d would be another couple of seconds off the pace.
In the real world though, would the Beemer’s power be more useable?
WRX STI 1.28.2
Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1
BMW 535d 1.31.8
This would appear to prove that an STI should be able to show a 535d a clean pair of heels. Presumably 530d would be another couple of seconds off the pace.
In the real world though, would the Beemer’s power be more useable?
31 March 2009, 04:44 PM
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It's not definitive, but Top Gear Power Lap times are as follows:
WRX STI 1.28.2
Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1
BMW 535d 1.31.8
This would appear to prove that an STI should be able to show a 535d a clean pair of heels. Presumably 530d would be another couple of seconds off the pace.
In the real world though, would the Beemer’s power be more useable?
WRX STI 1.28.2
Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1
BMW 535d 1.31.8
This would appear to prove that an STI should be able to show a 535d a clean pair of heels. Presumably 530d would be another couple of seconds off the pace.
In the real world though, would the Beemer’s power be more useable?
No one's said the Scoob wouldn't be quicker on a track. My own experience trying to chase some hard driven ones up the Stelvio Pass or over some bumpy A & B roads here in Yorkshireland hold testament to that (though I was ahead of several Scoobs on a recent run and it required 380 BHP or so to get away).
Remember the 535 is 1750kg, the Scoob is ~1235kg, my 335 is ~1600kg. Shifting that weight into, through and out of corners (practically 180 degrees in the case of Stelvio and 50 or so of the buggers) is going to hurt.
I'd suggest a stock 335 would knock a second or two of the 535 time due to the lower kerb weight, bringing it closer. Adding on the further 40 BHP and 100 Ft Lbs would bring that pretty equal. But again it would be cat and mouse with twisties being the Scoobs forte and straights being the realm of torque.
31 March 2009, 09:34 PM
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have just read through this thread and found it very interesting.
I am currently looking to buy a 330 sport either i or d, after allowing for difference in purchase price, higher cost of diesel, etc there seams to be little in it regarding total running costs.
The Petrol appears quicker, but the prospect of 400 nm torque (chipped) does sound appealing.
Therefore which of the two would be more fun to drive?
I am currently looking to buy a 330 sport either i or d, after allowing for difference in purchase price, higher cost of diesel, etc there seams to be little in it regarding total running costs.
The Petrol appears quicker, but the prospect of 400 nm torque (chipped) does sound appealing.
Therefore which of the two would be more fun to drive?
31 March 2009, 10:21 PM
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have just read through this thread and found it very interesting.
I am currently looking to buy a 330 sport either i or d, after allowing for difference in purchase price, higher cost of diesel, etc there seams to be little in it regarding total running costs.
The Petrol appears quicker, but the prospect of 400 nm torque (chipped) does sound appealing.
Therefore which of the two would be more fun to drive?
I am currently looking to buy a 330 sport either i or d, after allowing for difference in purchase price, higher cost of diesel, etc there seams to be little in it regarding total running costs.
The Petrol appears quicker, but the prospect of 400 nm torque (chipped) does sound appealing.
Therefore which of the two would be more fun to drive?
You nailed a few reasons there, but it really depends on what you want? Do you want the petrol BHP, rev-ability and the 6 Cyl engine / exhaust note or the D's monster torque wave?
IMO. The 330i would be the better bet. The 330D is nothing like the 335D for power delivery, with the 330i just getting the pip having the better sound track and free revving engine. The gains for the D are good, but will not really get you the leaps that the 335D has over the 335i (talking torque, tunability and lower depreciation here)...
31 March 2009, 10:31 PM
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have just read through this thread and found it very interesting.
I am currently looking to buy a 330 sport either i or d, after allowing for difference in purchase price, higher cost of diesel, etc there seams to be little in it regarding total running costs.
The Petrol appears quicker, but the prospect of 400 nm torque (chipped) does sound appealing.
Therefore which of the two would be more fun to drive?
I am currently looking to buy a 330 sport either i or d, after allowing for difference in purchase price, higher cost of diesel, etc there seams to be little in it regarding total running costs.
The Petrol appears quicker, but the prospect of 400 nm torque (chipped) does sound appealing.
Therefore which of the two would be more fun to drive?
31 March 2009, 10:32 PM
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My money is on the voltage regulator: They do pack up on them leaving teh battery to slowely drain, and you don't realise until you try and start the engine again. Wait for your BMW dealer to say you have a dead alternator....then ask about the regulator 
Just be ware that the regulator is a £25 part (BMW part no: 12317797525 ) that simply bolts onto the alternator. But of course the dealer would rather swap with a whole new alternator (which will include a new regulator) costing a couple of hundred quid extra for the privilege.
They need very beefy jump leads and a beefy jump battery to start the diesels if the main battery is dead, otherwise you just get a "click" and not much else.
Just be ware that the regulator is a £25 part (BMW part no: 12317797525 ) that simply bolts onto the alternator. But of course the dealer would rather swap with a whole new alternator (which will include a new regulator) costing a couple of hundred quid extra for the privilege.
They need very beefy jump leads and a beefy jump battery to start the diesels if the main battery is dead, otherwise you just get a "click" and not much else.
Long thread -so have you done the 'swirl flaps' kamikaze issue yet? Removing mine soon - well cant risk it costing me more than the £120so far in maintenance in 3yrs! Best buy ever - a car that's already paid for itself and great to drive! Worlds first!
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Blimey sounds like if I'm in anything the wrong side of a Veyron I better not mess with the BMW D's !
Seriously though I am amazed at the claimed MPG figures, I have had a few BMW diesels from the 330 to the 535 and I never saw anywhere the claimed figures. Even with steady driving none of them ever managed much more than 20 MPG urban.
Seriously though I am amazed at the claimed MPG figures, I have had a few BMW diesels from the 330 to the 535 and I never saw anywhere the claimed figures. Even with steady driving none of them ever managed much more than 20 MPG urban.
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I can certainly vouch for the performance of a chipped 335D..
Very little has troubled my well sorted WRX (350+/340) but today I had a play with one of these and whilst I expected it to be very quick, I didn't expect it to be THAT quick..
Up to three figures there wasn't anything in it, but beyond that he just kept pulling ahead..
Eventually I gave up, lol. Pulled along side him at the next set of lights and we had a chat. At first he said it was standard, which I was shocked by, but after I said that it's one of if not the fastest thing I've ever come up against, admitted it was chipped with ~330bhp and 700nm..
Lol, took a twisty country back road on the way home to restore my ego.. Reading this thread has made me feel a lot better..
Very little has troubled my well sorted WRX (350+/340) but today I had a play with one of these and whilst I expected it to be very quick, I didn't expect it to be THAT quick..
Up to three figures there wasn't anything in it, but beyond that he just kept pulling ahead..
Eventually I gave up, lol. Pulled along side him at the next set of lights and we had a chat. At first he said it was standard, which I was shocked by, but after I said that it's one of if not the fastest thing I've ever come up against, admitted it was chipped with ~330bhp and 700nm..
Lol, took a twisty country back road on the way home to restore my ego..
Reading this thread has made me feel a lot better..IIRC a few members laughed at me.
Here we are
02 April 2009, 11:11 AM
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Blimey sounds like if I'm in anything the wrong side of a Veyron I better not mess with the BMW D's !
Seriously though I am amazed at the claimed MPG figures, I have had a few BMW diesels from the 330 to the 535 and I never saw anywhere the claimed figures. Even with steady driving none of them ever managed much more than 20 MPG urban.
Seriously though I am amazed at the claimed MPG figures, I have had a few BMW diesels from the 330 to the 535 and I never saw anywhere the claimed figures. Even with steady driving none of them ever managed much more than 20 MPG urban.
Mine's an auto and its not hard to get 38mpg on the motorway. Its generally late 20's with a lot of town driving. Anticipation and coasting (rather than keeping on the throttle and then braking) to a stop at a reds for e.g helps. Ohh, that and remove the divers chunky shoes
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Do you find that you go through brakepads quickly too mate?!!!
Mine's an auto and its not hard to get 38mpg on the motorway. Its generally late 20's with a lot of town driving. Anticipation and coasting (rather than keeping on the throttle and then braking) to a stop at a reds for e.g helps. Ohh, that and remove the divers chunky shoes
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Mine's an auto and its not hard to get 38mpg on the motorway. Its generally late 20's with a lot of town driving. Anticipation and coasting (rather than keeping on the throttle and then braking) to a stop at a reds for e.g helps. Ohh, that and remove the divers chunky shoes
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In 3 yrs of owning a 330D I've twice had to take it into a garage because of a drop-off in fuel economy. After a while the EGR valve clogs up, there's at least one pressure converter which has a filter that needs cleaning, and the vacuum hoses can become porous and need replacing. None of this is on the service schedule but it makes a big difference to fuel consumption (10-15% in my case) and the engine's response on a light throttle. I've also had a fuel injector fail which caused very similar symptoms.
If you're not able to get 40mpg or so on a steady 70mph run, it may be worth getting these things looked at by a BMW specialist. There's a lot of stuff on BMWLand about pressure converters which is well worth a read - not many people even seem aware that the problem exists and just assume that the car is inherently thirsty.
www.BMWLand.co.uk - Where Power Meets Control - UK BMW Car chat site :: View topic - Pressure Converters have Air Filters ! - well worth a read.
If you're not able to get 40mpg or so on a steady 70mph run, it may be worth getting these things looked at by a BMW specialist. There's a lot of stuff on BMWLand about pressure converters which is well worth a read - not many people even seem aware that the problem exists and just assume that the car is inherently thirsty.
www.BMWLand.co.uk - Where Power Meets Control - UK BMW Car chat site :: View topic - Pressure Converters have Air Filters ! - well worth a read.
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In 3 yrs of owning a 330D I've twice had to take it into a garage because of a drop-off in fuel economy. After a while the EGR valve clogs up, there's at least one pressure converter which has a filter that needs cleaning, and the vacuum hoses can become porous and need replacing. None of this is on the service schedule but it makes a big difference to fuel consumption (10-15% in my case) and the engine's response on a light throttle. I've also had a fuel injector fail which caused very similar symptoms.
If you're not able to get 40mpg or so on a steady 70mph run, it may be worth getting these things looked at by a BMW specialist. There's a lot of stuff on BMWLand about pressure converters which is well worth a read - not many people even seem aware that the problem exists and just assume that the car is inherently thirsty.
www.BMWLand.co.uk - Where Power Meets Control - UK BMW Car chat site :: View topic - Pressure Converters have Air Filters ! - well worth a read.
If you're not able to get 40mpg or so on a steady 70mph run, it may be worth getting these things looked at by a BMW specialist. There's a lot of stuff on BMWLand about pressure converters which is well worth a read - not many people even seem aware that the problem exists and just assume that the car is inherently thirsty.
www.BMWLand.co.uk - Where Power Meets Control - UK BMW Car chat site :: View topic - Pressure Converters have Air Filters ! - well worth a read.
I'm not sure of your variant, but does this affect all modern BM Diesels?
What were the intervals for the work? Your time line looks to be every 12 months...