STi IV TypeR - track car project
13 October 2009, 11:16 PM
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I think the point Andy is trying to make is that in earlier model the MAP can get "saturated" when running close to the boost limit. I'm no expert so I'd suggest you talk to someone like Paul or Mark to confirm.
Having looked at your rolling road figures you'd would have expected it to have had problems at 5k if this was the problem
Having looked at your rolling road figures you'd would have expected it to have had problems at 5k if this was the problem
14 October 2009, 10:01 AM
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Just read the thread and you did well to get the car to TA matey
I was in the same pit garage as you supporting the grey skyline, I gave you the rubber o ring for fee's skyline
I was in the same pit garage as you supporting the grey skyline, I gave you the rubber o ring for fee's skyline
14 October 2009, 06:55 PM
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SPA Oil Pressure and Oil Temp gauge fitted, using a 4 way block.... other two outlets are blanked for now. Location/Final fitting could be better but its sturdy enough and in my general line of sight for quick glances Still needs to be set up properly for my prefs (read in bar etc)
also started work on a makeshift catch can/vent to atmosphre set up for the breathers after breaking a 90 bent on the inlet just before the turbo. You can see oil in the inner wing for some hard laps at the weekend.
Still needs to be set up properly for my prefs (read in bar etc)also started work on a makeshift catch can/vent to atmosphre set up for the breathers after breaking a 90 bent on the inlet just before the turbo. You can see oil in the inner wing for some hard laps at the weekend.
14 October 2009, 10:01 PM
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adam, i have a 3.5 bar map sensor and a set of resisted 8 plugs, i can send them to you if you want mate and if they are the cure of the problem you can pay me when you have tried them, if they are no help to the problem just send me them back. you cant get fairer than that
just let me know
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just let me know
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14 October 2009, 10:12 PM
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just out of curiosity, did you only start getting the misfire/splutter when the car was getting hot ie after 2 laps or so ?
if yes then i had the same problem 4 years ago on my version 2 track car, backed the boost off slightly and it was perfect, the map sensor had reached its limit (1.2 bar in this case ) but they can obviously vary slightly, once it was backed off to 1 bar it was fine.
hope this helps
andy h
if yes then i had the same problem 4 years ago on my version 2 track car, backed the boost off slightly and it was perfect, the map sensor had reached its limit (1.2 bar in this case ) but they can obviously vary slightly, once it was backed off to 1 bar it was fine.
hope this helps
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14 October 2009, 10:42 PM
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at 1 bar there is still a misfire, but i cant feel it (noted when mapping)... it gets worse with more boost.
If anything i say it felt better after a few hard laps (or maybe i was just getting used to it!)
PM sent.
If anything i say it felt better after a few hard laps (or maybe i was just getting used to it!)
PM sent.
16 October 2009, 06:27 PM
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todays attempts LOL
Started making up a test splitter from hardboard... I knew the bumper was going to be a pain to work with as the bottom is quite angled, so the splitter would naturally point up (giving lift) I had planned to space the front of it down and test things out BUT i ran out of time and patience before trackday tomorrow am. I tried about 30mm spacers on the front, but it was still angled! Anyone tell me which bumper is best to use as this damn STi one is a pain
Raised the back of the bonnet a touch. Not a fan of huge lifts, so kept it quite subtle and removed the rubber seal at the back to help get hot air out quicker... Need to reverse the scoop too as its just a air brake at the moment!
DIY catch can... I have ordered a twin entry one, but this orange juice bottle will do for now :|
I blocked the block to inlet, blocked the PCV, and vented the 2nd of the block breathers (i know they are just T'd but was easier to plumb this way with what i had). Cam cover breathers... I think i'm getting a bit confused with them. I had them ready to t together and vent to catch can BUT then just had a look under the inlet and thought I saw they were just linked directly to each other. Since found out that this isnt the case, and they also go to the inlet. Anyone tell me where?
Started making up a test splitter from hardboard... I knew the bumper was going to be a pain to work with as the bottom is quite angled, so the splitter would naturally point up (giving lift) I had planned to space the front of it down and test things out BUT i ran out of time and patience before trackday tomorrow am. I tried about 30mm spacers on the front, but it was still angled! Anyone tell me which bumper is best to use as this damn STi one is a pain
Raised the back of the bonnet a touch. Not a fan of huge lifts, so kept it quite subtle and removed the rubber seal at the back to help get hot air out quicker... Need to reverse the scoop too as its just a air brake at the moment!
DIY catch can... I have ordered a twin entry one, but this orange juice bottle will do for now :|
I blocked the block to inlet, blocked the PCV, and vented the 2nd of the block breathers (i know they are just T'd but was easier to plumb this way with what i had). Cam cover breathers... I think i'm getting a bit confused with them. I had them ready to t together and vent to catch can BUT then just had a look under the inlet and thought I saw they were just linked directly to each other. Since found out that this isnt the case, and they also go to the inlet. Anyone tell me where?
16 October 2009, 07:06 PM
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looks like the splitter is the problem going to do mine this week what final material are you going too use?
i have an ABW TA type splitter and is totally flat around so will/should mount fairly easily
i have an ABW TA type splitter and is totally flat around so will/should mount fairly easily
16 October 2009, 07:21 PM
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trim splitter at bottom off bumper see hereyou have a totally flat surface to mount it too
edit just been outside too look at mine and mine points straight so hopefully undertray will too
HTH
edit just been outside too look at mine and mine points straight so hopefully undertray will too
HTH
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16 October 2009, 09:31 PM
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which splitter is that, or is it DIY?
Thats a different bumper from mine... under mine its like the front of a WRX, curved down (more than with STi parts) at the rear.
like so
Thats a different bumper from mine... under mine its like the front of a WRX, curved down (more than with STi parts) at the rear.
like so
16 October 2009, 09:46 PM
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there is a line at the bottom of your bumper pretty much level, cut a strip of 1mm alloy or 4mm foamex like i used,3" tall and bolt it to your bumper all the way round, then at the bottom of the alloy or foamex get a long strip of alloy 90 degree angle and put cuts half way through it so it will bend around the contour of the bumper and fix it to the alloy or foamex with bolts, i used allon key black buttons, then drill the bottom of the 90 degree angle alloy and fix the splitter to it, bair in mind this does create alot of downforce so it must be strong, i fitted upstands on the splitter of mine behind the fog lights that fixed onto the inner wing with quick release pip pins,
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20 October 2009, 12:34 PM
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done some quick changes to DIY catch can...
Using an ebay catch can now (still very small, and with quite small bore inlets! BUT i have used some 22mm reinforced hose (same as Skyline) for the breather pipes (but had to reduce to meet catch can etc) This should slow the airflow/oil vapour down once/if it comes out on track - meaning hopefully less oil wasted in the can
and and another look at the discs on the Impreza.... oh dear. Good job we towed that car home from the last trackday, as the brakes felt warped but there were no visable cracks at the track (must have happened when cooling)! 2 cracks clean through the O/S disc, and 1 on the N/S.
Front Brake spec
Standard discs using STi 4pots, Carbotech XP8's and a brake MS booster
Need to look into going bigger
I think Snetterton would have done the damage, and Crail just pushed them over the edge.
Using an ebay catch can now (still very small, and with quite small bore inlets! BUT i have used some 22mm reinforced hose (same as Skyline) for the breather pipes (but had to reduce to meet catch can etc) This should slow the airflow/oil vapour down once/if it comes out on track - meaning hopefully less oil wasted in the can
and and another look at the discs on the Impreza.... oh dear. Good job we towed that car home from the last trackday, as the brakes felt warped but there were no visable cracks at the track (must have happened when cooling)! 2 cracks clean through the O/S disc, and 1 on the N/S.
Front Brake spec
Standard discs using STi 4pots, Carbotech XP8's and a brake MS booster
Need to look into going bigger
I think Snetterton would have done the damage, and Crail just pushed them over the edge.
09 November 2009, 09:16 PM
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fitted the reverse vent today nice and easy
Will do the lip soon, was just having a **** day of it with my brakes!
thanks to Davie
Home
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fitted the Jun lip pop rivited on, and started offering up the test splitter still to see how flat (overall angle once fitted to car) it will be so may still need spacers
pics of the vent fitted
and the size of the crack in the pas disc once off :O
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new brakes now on, bled but not tested yet.
Still need to double check how thick the discs are, and maybe shim the caliper out a bit. Will have a look at somepoint tomorrow....
thats the driver side OE disc :O
will now be selling the orig 4 pot calipers and Carbotech XP 8 pads (and discs if anyone fancies em :P )
nice and easy Will do the lip soon, was just having a **** day of it with my brakes!
thanks to Davie
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fitted the Jun lip
pop rivited on, and started offering up the test splitter still to see how flat (overall angle once fitted to car) it will be so may still need spacerspics of the vent fitted
and the size of the crack in the pas disc once off :O
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new brakes now on, bled but not tested yet.
Still need to double check how thick the discs are, and maybe shim the caliper out a bit. Will have a look at somepoint tomorrow....
thats the driver side OE disc :O
will now be selling the orig 4 pot calipers and Carbotech XP 8 pads (and discs if anyone fancies em :P )
10 November 2009, 11:34 PM
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you can see a permant heat haze from it.... so i think its letting a lot more hot air out.
I got the vent from Davie Reid - Home not sure on its brand
voila - Reverse Heat Vents - £150
I got the vent from Davie Reid - Home not sure on its brand
voila - Reverse Heat Vents - £150
10 November 2009, 11:38 PM
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mock splitter fitted... just need to see if it suvives :O
And the brakes.... 335mm 6pots. Seem much more progressive and every improving with bedding. Will do a few trackdays with them before swapping pads to XP10's and beefier discs
And the brakes.... 335mm 6pots. Seem much more progressive and every improving with bedding. Will do a few trackdays with them before swapping pads to XP10's and beefier discs
