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Old 30 September 2009, 06:34 PM
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Yours and Mike's antics

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I am going to stick 5spd.. if it breaks it breaks
Old 30 September 2009, 11:53 PM
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I am going to stick 5spd.. if it breaks it breaks
Whats the reason behind your choice, is it the weight saving or the gear ratios?
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having been driving on a 6spd on my other car everyday I now like the box.. but feel I am forever changing gear..

I just like the 5spd.. it is straight cut box and I like the noise too

there is the weight to consider too.

Simon
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get some random pictures up for us all to nosey at

id love a ppg on my forged build eventually.
Old 01 October 2009, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
having been driving on a 6spd on my other car everyday I now like the box.. but feel I am forever changing gear..

I just like the 5spd.. it is straight cut box and I like the noise too

there is the weight to consider too.

Simon
I can see where your comming from TBH, Im puzzling over which one to get when the time comes myself, I dont want to change the characteristics of the classic by fitting a six speed although the extra strength would be nice, but then again lugging around an extra 30 or so kilos comes with it`s own disadvantage, If only the PPG kits were rated that wee bit higher it would be a no brainer for me

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Depends really on how much torque you want to run. If it's anywhere near 450lb ft... AND you drive the car 'enthusiasticaly' most of the time, then for me, the 6-sp has got to be the no-brainer option.

Just means you'll have to run more power/torque to offset the extra 30kg (but at least you'll know it'll be strong enough.... and then some! ).

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You don't HAVE to use all of the gears, not with a decent bit of torque...

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Originally Posted by dunx
You don't HAVE to use all of the gears, not with a decent bit of torque...

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True.
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
get some random pictures up for us all to nosey at
lol will try and take some.. car looks different now with diff tyre size and sun strip..

Probably going to drive it tomorrow so will take some pics

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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
I can see where your comming from TBH, Im puzzling over which one to get when the time comes myself, I dont want to change the characteristics of the classic by fitting a six speed although the extra strength would be nice, but then again lugging around an extra 30 or so kilos comes with it`s own disadvantage, If only the PPG kits were rated that wee bit higher it would be a no brainer for me

it is very difficult to describe but on my way home there is a cross roads and stop in the newage blob with uk 6spd and launch in first, and I am in 4th by the time I have to brake for a bend and feel I have changed gear all along the straight.. in the classix I am still in 3rd and braking and back on the power after the bend.. the blob it is on the point of change down or not with a little lag if I don't out of the bend if you see what I mean.

I think I need to try and hawkeye 6spd as the ratios are much nicer..

the recent change to 215/45/17 on the classic has lengthened the gearing and if anything has calmed down the torque steer and grip feels higher but it doesn;t have the same rapid feel too it.. time for more power

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couple of random pics as requested.. spent too much time enjoying driving it (long way home, and embarressed a couple of suppose to be quick cars).




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I could imagine the embarrassment. Car looks SICK Simon, loving the interior...
Old 02 October 2009, 11:53 PM
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the most amusement was an M3 driver who did typical bmw driver and sat on bumper and flashed whilst I was in the outside lane overtaking, no where to go and I was passing other cars, if I had been sat in outside lane with other lanes empty then fair enough but I don't do that.. so I dropped it a gear.. within speed limit of course.. then pulled in and slowed down.. he gave an embarressed wave of thanks.

The colour is such a marmite colour.. comments are always funny.. and always about the colour.

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Old 03 October 2009, 09:49 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^

class!!
Old 03 October 2009, 10:28 AM
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Tim, i suspect Mike hasnt quite got close enough to the number of gearkits i have broken

Car is looking good Smon, i dont know, these M3 drivers that bait Subaru drivers eh!
Old 03 October 2009, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Tim, i suspect Mike hasnt quite got close enough to the number of gearkits i have broken
True, there is only one true animal

Still Mike did break them on the road with road tyres and not launching it...
Old 03 October 2009, 10:53 AM
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Simon, the Forester ratios in my 6 speed have made the world of difference with the 2.5, might be what you are looking for.
Old 03 October 2009, 11:21 AM
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I think the forester and hawkeye ratios are very nice..

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Old 03 October 2009, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
I think I need to try and hawkeye 6spd as the ratios are much nicer..
With all that torque the later box makes sense, but us "under-nourished" folk need all the help we can get....



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Old 03 October 2009, 12:38 PM
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JDM 6 speed is very good for track use, having used it all last year, i only ever had one corner where i could never find a decent gear, 2nd was too lively and 3rd was too laggy. Although i do think the forrester/uk hawkeye box has better all round ratios.

The PPG i am using in the 6 speed on the banana is mega long ratios, with 120 attainable in 3rd!
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The thing with Scoobs and Evos, is that you never know what power they are pushing out... So M3 drivers et al; under estimate them at your potential embarrasment. LOL

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Anybody got a link to a table of all the gear ratios for Imprezas through the years, and Foresters?

Having gone for a built 2.5 in what was a 2.0 '05 JDM STi, I'm already aware that the gears aren't quite right - and once it's up to 450+ bhp/lbft I think it will be even more obvious. So, thinking ahead, it would be useful to know what might be a better set of ratios. That way I can keep an eye out in For Sale etc
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There is a spreadsheet somewhere with the ratios, I'll see if I can find a link for it.
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thanks
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Originally Posted by joz8968
The thing with Scoobs and Evos, is that you never know what power they are pushing out... So M3 drivers et al; under estimate them at your potential embarrasment. LOL
LOL, never stops me pushing them in my M3, i know a well driven M3 will only be beaten by 350~400+ , and these still arent too common

I think i am 75% up on humilitating scoobs in the M3, and 100% up on humiliating M3's in the scoob
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lol
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my attempt at being arty.. fail



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looking sweet mate

did you get the bucket and sponge out before hand lol
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Simon, I see your JGM has the STi 3/4 3-pc front splitter, which I like.

But I also like HT Autos' P1 style splitter for the early bumper.

What do you reckon looks best out of the two? lol


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