What Evo X is this?
28 November 2008, 04:47 PM
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A 997 can be had for well under £30k now (see Top Marques) and under £40k for a really nice one from an official Porsche dealership, with full Porsche warranty. Running costs will be far lower than an Evo and the driving experience more rewarding, IMHO. (I've driven an Evo and don't want one; I've also driven a 911 and want one badly 
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After 3 years, the 911 will probably be worth not much less than you paid, whereas the Evo will be looking at half that. Comparisons like these are very personal but for me, only an M3 comes close to a 911. An FQ400 might be a bit quicker (I doubt it frankly) but on absolutely every other count it scores zero, nil, blank.
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)After 3 years, the 911 will probably be worth not much less than you paid, whereas the Evo will be looking at half that. Comparisons like these are very personal but for me, only an M3 comes close to a 911. An FQ400 might be a bit quicker (I doubt it frankly) but on absolutely every other count it scores zero, nil, blank.
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28 November 2008, 04:52 PM
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Chav is a stereotype isn't it? it actually stands for council something. I know the sort of people you're on about though, think that's just a lack of style or taste...maybe it genetic
...makes the rest of us look good though...on the plus side
28 November 2008, 05:10 PM
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not seen this one i work sundays so dont get to see top gear alot
this is the evox fq 360 goes well typical evo listen to the comments and then think the 400 should be a better car and im sure they will test one in the future.
YouTube - Top Gear - Evo X FQ360
this is the evox fq 360 goes well typical evo
listen to the comments and then think the 400 should be a better car and im sure they will test one in the future.YouTube - Top Gear - Evo X FQ360
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28 November 2008, 06:31 PM
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LOL How do you pose in an R32?! One of the things I like about them is that 95% of the population think it's a regular Golf! And the other 5% compliment themselves on being shrewd vehicle spotters, and then compliment me on being a cool, confident, understated and discerning driver. Clearly, I am deluded 
Evos are wonderful, no question, but when it comes to actual ownership most people back away. To me, an Evo just shows what an amazing supercar-killer you get get with 2litres, which is an interesting technical point, but not one I want to prove with my own money. There is a reason why true supercars are not 2litre turbos!
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Evos are wonderful, no question, but when it comes to actual ownership most people back away. To me, an Evo just shows what an amazing supercar-killer you get get with 2litres, which is an interesting technical point, but not one I want to prove with my own money. There is a reason why true supercars are not 2litre turbos!
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Best was a group of kids aged about 12 shouting "Cooorrr, nice car mate!" in Oxford. They were obviously discerning kids!
Know what you mean about the Evo. And yes, a 997 still gets my overall vote. But I also love the Cayman S.
28 November 2008, 07:23 PM
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I had a bright Red Evo VIII something or other for a week.
I have never felt like such a *** driving a car. I was cringing most of the time and was torn between driving slow to show i wasn't a boy racer chav or drivng fast so no-one saw/recognised me.
Half a tank of fuel to go from the Swiss Cottage petrol station to Toddington Services was a good effort though, i'll give it that.
I have never felt like such a *** driving a car. I was cringing most of the time and was torn between driving slow to show i wasn't a boy racer chav or drivng fast so no-one saw/recognised me.
Half a tank of fuel to go from the Swiss Cottage petrol station to Toddington Services was a good effort though, i'll give it that.
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28 November 2008, 10:50 PM
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The R32 actually got a surprising number of nice comments.
Best was a group of kids aged about 12 shouting "Cooorrr, nice car mate!" in Oxford. They were obviously discerning kids!
Know what you mean about the Evo. And yes, a 997 still gets my overall vote. But I also love the Cayman S.
Best was a group of kids aged about 12 shouting "Cooorrr, nice car mate!" in Oxford. They were obviously discerning kids!
Know what you mean about the Evo. And yes, a 997 still gets my overall vote. But I also love the Cayman S.
29 November 2008, 10:11 AM
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Never had any bother in Ferrari's though. Came back to find a crowd around a 348 i had at a zoo in the lake district once. Poor old northeners hadn't seen anything nice like that before 
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Hoppy - I just think "993" when I see a Cayman. Reckon it escapes the hairdresser tag.
Nat - A mate recently bought a 348 - engine has to be removed at each major service!
Nat - A mate recently bought a 348 - engine has to be removed at each major service!
29 November 2008, 11:32 AM
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wtf can you do with a more expensive watch or do you think your 007 
Do you remember the FQ400 vs Murcielago test on Top Gear a few years back? Clarkson in the Evo kept up with a BTCC driver in the Lambo. Then they did some stupid test where a supermini out accelerated the evo from 30mph in 5th gear or something. One of the most pointless tests ever imho.
Also £40K+ for an Evo is getting towards GTR money and I know which Id prefer from new.
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29 November 2008, 11:38 AM
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29 November 2008, 05:56 PM
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Been Porsche hunting today and Caymans almost make the 911 look ugly at the back. Sooo nice Caymans are still quite new and so there aren't that many about. S Tiptronics scarce. Tons of 911s around though - C2, C4, Tips, Cabs, wide range of prices/colours.
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PS Edited to add, just read this on the Parker's website (lots of good data on there).
"The Cayman is an interesting vehicle for Porsche. It is a coupe based on the Boxster, and like its soft-top sibling has two seats - however, it's a little pricier. That said it's still cheaper than the iconic 911, and is arguably prettier with a few extra curves adorning its rear. Our instincts suggest the Cayman will neither become as famous as the 911, nor even gain the recognition of the Boxster, but it is certainly a great sports coupe in the Porsche tradition."
It's not very logical but it kind of sums up how I feel
Caymans are still quite new and so there aren't that many about. S Tiptronics scarce. Tons of 911s around though - C2, C4, Tips, Cabs, wide range of prices/colours.Richard.
PS Edited to add, just read this on the Parker's website (lots of good data on there).
"The Cayman is an interesting vehicle for Porsche. It is a coupe based on the Boxster, and like its soft-top sibling has two seats - however, it's a little pricier. That said it's still cheaper than the iconic 911, and is arguably prettier with a few extra curves adorning its rear. Our instincts suggest the Cayman will neither become as famous as the 911, nor even gain the recognition of the Boxster, but it is certainly a great sports coupe in the Porsche tradition."
It's not very logical but it kind of sums up how I feel
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£45-50k..???
Sorry, but as impressive as the figures are, there's some amazing and gorgeous machinery knocking around at that price that has already taken the big first year depreciation hit.
Sorry, but as impressive as the figures are, there's some amazing and gorgeous machinery knocking around at that price that has already taken the big first year depreciation hit.
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Hmm. A V8 M3 with some class and pedigree, or a 2l 4-cyl turbo chav-mobile?
Actually, as v8vd says, there is an amazing choice of fabulous cars around for that money. A nearly new Audi R8 can be had for £60k now, and they'll be closer to £50k in the New Year. Bit of a shame is you paid £90k only a few months ago
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Wonder why they haven't sold
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Even if it is a NME so to speak. An awesome car though. It's a shame that it looks..........errr well hideous.
There are some
designing cars nowadays coz by f**k are they all ugly!!!!!!!!!!!
There are some
designing cars nowadays coz by f**k are they all ugly!!!!!!!!!!!
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Far from just a fast TT. My old man has one, and the handling/cornering aboility is unbelievable. Been on 2 Audi track days now, and the sheer speed/grip it has
Audi's best car by far, and baring the GT3, GT2, Turbo, it's better than any other Porsche.
The new V10 engined R8 will take the R8 into supercar territory. Expect it to out lap the Gallardo/F430 when Top Gear get hold of one.
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That's it! The R8 is ill-conceived - a great car without a market slot. As it is, it simply does not have the cache of rivals. To become coveted or aspirational, it needs at least 600bhp and a prestige badge, like Lambo maybe - which is kinda tricky in the VW/Audi portfolio. And now I wonder what Porsche will make of it in their empire
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The V10 engined car will be a direct rival to the Ferrari F430, 911 Turbo, & Gallardo. Which as you say makes it kinda tricky for Porsche, given they now own VW/Audi/Lamborghini. Although those loyal to the Audi brand may not have bought a 911 anyway, so I suppose they win both ways.
For me, I'd take an R8 over a Carrera S or 4S, but I'd take a 911 Turbo over an R8.
I'll wait to drive the V10'd R8 on track to see if I'll still feel the same. Getting me old man to express interest, in order to get a free track day. Of which I'll take. He ain't that bothered.
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I was sat next to an R8 in a horrible jam on the M4 (J 4b) yesterday and have to say that I do like them a lot. And those headlights are so damn cool too!
Shame he was driving like a t1t.
Shame he was driving like a t1t.
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