PS3 or 360?
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Yes. Basically MS have a massive number of dedicated gaming servers which run the live service. Different games work slightly differently, but essentially it all runs on the MS hardware. This has a few effects..
I tried that, but wireless just isn't fast enough to stream HD video. I'm using ethernet upstairs, but will probably be getting some powerline adapters for downstairs soon, (if I can work out the wiring - they don't work through extension leads apparently).
- It's very fast (much faster than the PSN and more reliable - I get endless dropped connections / games when trying to play on the PS3)
- Game servers are not reliant on the original publisher to keep them running (so no throwing away games if the publisher shuts down).
- The service is very "integrated", so the same online protocols / connection methods etc are used for all games. This ensures that the end user experience is essentially the same no matter what game you play. It's very slick, and very easy to find / join / host games.
- If the original "hoster" drops out, usually the online game will keep running (until everyone exits). Obviously for some games this doesn't make sense (1 on 1 fighting games for example), but when in deathmatches etc it keeps the game going.
I tried that, but wireless just isn't fast enough to stream HD video. I'm using ethernet upstairs, but will probably be getting some powerline adapters for downstairs soon, (if I can work out the wiring - they don't work through extension leads apparently).
Not all games end when the hoster leaves. On Grid for instance, it just changes host, even if you leave mid race, without any disruption.
No matter how cheap it is though, I still think MS should not charge for XBL, it should be a loss leader to get more people on board if it is that good.
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I've never managed to get a decent PS3 online game. Almost always have trouble with disconnects etc. Live is soooooo much better (and faster).
Re your other comment, that would one hell of a loss leader. Have you any idea how much money it takes to run an infrastructure like xbox live?
By compaison, look at mmorpgs like world of warcraft etc. You'd pay more for just 3 months subscription to those than you do for a whole year of Live. Makes it seem not so bad value for money
Re your other comment, that would one hell of a loss leader. Have you any idea how much money it takes to run an infrastructure like xbox live?
By compaison, look at mmorpgs like world of warcraft etc. You'd pay more for just 3 months subscription to those than you do for a whole year of Live. Makes it seem not so bad value for money
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True, but there are other RPG games that charge nothing and give you free updates, I don't know how WOW gets away with it TBH.
I don't understand your comment about XBL being much faster? I play games on there and I have no problems whatsoever, finds games quickly, no lag issues, no disconnects.
Are you referring to the downloading side, which I admit, is slow (well, for updates, for demos it's as fast as my PC)?
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I don't understand your comment about XBL being much faster? I play games on there and I have no problems whatsoever, finds games quickly, no lag issues, no disconnects.
Are you referring to the downloading side, which I admit, is slow (well, for updates, for demos it's as fast as my PC)?
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Are you referring to the downloading side, which I admit, is slow (well, for updates, for demos it's as fast as my PC)?
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Never have any PSN problems also the downloads only take 10 mins or so - my PS3 is wired
never had any disconects either
only downside was just got gran turismo and it took 30 mins of installing and updating before I could play it
never had any disconects either
only downside was just got gran turismo and it took 30 mins of installing and updating before I could play it
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Hardly, my cousin has the same connection issues, and he only has a PS3 
Wish I knew what was causing it though. It makes anything online with the PS3 pretty much unusable. Xbox, PC and Wii are all fine. Only the PS3 has the problem...
Wish I knew what was causing it though. It makes anything online with the PS3 pretty much unusable. Xbox, PC and Wii are all fine. Only the PS3 has the problem...
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Ive not read all this basically because im sick of the whole PS3 v 360 debate but if anyone wants a cheap 360 there doing them at Comet.
Xbox 360 60gb pro with an extra wireless controller, Kung fu panda, Lego indiana jones, PGR4 and Sega superstar tennis for £166
play.com are doing the same deal without PGR4 or sega tennis for £209.
Xbox 360 60gb pro with an extra wireless controller, Kung fu panda, Lego indiana jones, PGR4 and Sega superstar tennis for £166
play.com are doing the same deal without PGR4 or sega tennis for £209.
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I like to think Ive offered some decent input as I faced the very same decision last month and it was a close call. Im not going to say a problem doesnt happen on my PS3 if really it does just to make my purchase seem the better choice. I already admitted Xbox live seems a better environment if there are dedicated multiplayer servers provided by MS. Maybe there are for the PS3 as tbh my online game time has been rather limited so far.Simon
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Have been loyal to Sony since PS1.
Love the PS3.... But here are my cons...
- Hate the fact that most games seem to be only 720, and not 1080p
- I am 1Gb broadband, and downloading updates and demos is utter sh1te, it takes absolutely ages, wireless or connected
- They could have styled it better
- The orig 40Gb was a woefully small HD, 80Gb much better
- Don't get on with the web browser
- Sixaxis is..err... a bit crap
Apart from that.. love it!
Love the PS3.... But here are my cons...
- Hate the fact that most games seem to be only 720, and not 1080p
- I am 1Gb broadband, and downloading updates and demos is utter sh1te, it takes absolutely ages, wireless or connected
- They could have styled it better
- The orig 40Gb was a woefully small HD, 80Gb much better
- Don't get on with the web browser
- Sixaxis is..err... a bit crap
Apart from that.. love it!
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[QUOTE=JPL;8315244]Have been loyal to Sony since PS1.
Love the PS3.... But here are my cons...
- Hate the fact that most games seem to be only 720, and not 1080p
Apart from that.. love it
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[quote=P1Fanatic;8319309]
CoD 5 is 1080p. That's what flashes up on the screen as it starts to load anyway, "1080p input"
Most of the others say "720p input" although CoD4 is capable of 1080p, but for some reason I have to "force" it to use 1080p otherwise it seems to run in 720p
Have been loyal to Sony since PS1.
Love the PS3.... But here are my cons...
- Hate the fact that most games seem to be only 720, and not 1080p
Apart from that.. love it![/QUOTE
Not trying to diss your post buddy but 1GB broadband???
No games Xbox or PS3 are 1080p as far as Im aware. Only 1080p sources are blu-ray and HD-DVD (whats left of them).
Simon
Love the PS3.... But here are my cons...
- Hate the fact that most games seem to be only 720, and not 1080p
Apart from that.. love it![/QUOTE
Not trying to diss your post buddy but 1GB broadband???
No games Xbox or PS3 are 1080p as far as Im aware. Only 1080p sources are blu-ray and HD-DVD (whats left of them).
Simon
Most of the others say "720p input" although CoD4 is capable of 1080p, but for some reason I have to "force" it to use 1080p otherwise it seems to run in 720p
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On the box it says it's 720p
Wipeout HD is 1080p however. I've seen some other games that are too, but their names escape me.
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Wipeout HD is 1080p however. I've seen some other games that are too, but their names escape me.
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If you have a game for your PC and:
a) it runs great in 1280x720 mode
b) looks sharper, yet starts to judder at 1920x1080 mode
...then I'd sacrifice the sharper graphics and switch back to 1280x720 mode. This is what happened to me with FIFA09 recently.
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