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27 November 2008, 02:23 AM
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though love the high pitched noise.
As they usually DONT!Nowadays it seems to be very easy going.
27 November 2008, 01:55 PM
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27 November 2008, 02:01 PM
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Our offices where just outside Farnborough Airfield and we'd get to see them practice during the two weeks the show was on. Not particularly helpful when you're trying to provide telephone support and an F16 screams overhead but I loved the noise and spectacle. 
The Lightning will always be my favourite aircraft (my dad did his engineering apprentiship (sp) on the Lighting construction line).
The Lightning will always be my favourite aircraft (my dad did his engineering apprentiship (sp) on the Lighting construction line).
27 November 2008, 02:01 PM
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Wonder if this is "evil" or just weird?
Photos: Beriev Be-6P (Qing-6) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Photos: Beriev Be-6P (Qing-6) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
28 November 2008, 01:04 PM
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I remeber being at RAF Lakenheath or Mildenhall in around 1970 when a Vulcan was doing a demo takeoff.
Rolled out, pushed the throttles to the stops, reached V2 and stood it on its tail
Oops, what's that - about 400 yards of runway disappeared in a cloud of road planings behind it
That was the last use of that runway for a while
28 November 2008, 01:38 PM
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I saw one of these on the runway at GTI international about 2 years ago, When the re heater cut in ( I got told off by a man with a beard for calling it an afterburner) the whole ground shook.
They still fly in south africa as a tourist thing.
They still fly in south africa as a tourist thing.
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30 November 2008, 05:43 PM
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01 December 2008, 11:41 AM
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Yes, that'll be spot on. There was two prototypes of these built - one was involved in a mid-air collision during flight trials, a starfighter flew into it's tail iirc, and the programme was later scrapped with the second aircraft was moved to Wright Patterson.
Similar story to the TSR2 programme, but that was cut just because on money.
Similar story to the TSR2 programme, but that was cut just because on money.
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01 December 2008, 11:45 AM
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Yes a very interesting machine, I think the Starfighter was sucked into the XB70's wing by aerodynamic effects.
Yes a lot more to the TSR2 cancallation as you say. Great shame for us and the industry.
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Yes a lot more to the TSR2 cancallation as you say. Great shame for us and the industry.
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01 December 2008, 01:45 PM
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Yeager's Starfighter ejection
A bit off, but nonetheless very interesting is Yeager's NF-104 ejection account.
Yeager & the NF-104
"What happened on this flight was that when the airplane came into the atmosphere, at about a 50-degree angle of attack, I couldn't get the nose down. The airplane pitched up and went into a flat spin. Now airplane is in a flat spin and, because there is no air going through the intake ducts, the engine stops. When that stops, then you no longer have hydraulic pressure to run the horizontal stabilizer, the aileron or the rudder. So you are in a no-win situation. That's exactly what it is. You sit there. But you have one other alternative, that's eject. I also had a drag chute on the airplane that we use for landing. The airplane was in a very flat, slow spin. I had my pressure suit on and it was inflated. I sat there and watched. I was talking to Bud Anderson who was chasing me in a T-33. He was down, way down though, looking at me coming. "
Yeager & the NF-104
"What happened on this flight was that when the airplane came into the atmosphere, at about a 50-degree angle of attack, I couldn't get the nose down. The airplane pitched up and went into a flat spin. Now airplane is in a flat spin and, because there is no air going through the intake ducts, the engine stops. When that stops, then you no longer have hydraulic pressure to run the horizontal stabilizer, the aileron or the rudder. So you are in a no-win situation. That's exactly what it is. You sit there. But you have one other alternative, that's eject. I also had a drag chute on the airplane that we use for landing. The airplane was in a very flat, slow spin. I had my pressure suit on and it was inflated. I sat there and watched. I was talking to Bud Anderson who was chasing me in a T-33. He was down, way down though, looking at me coming. "
02 December 2008, 12:34 PM
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A bit off, but nonetheless very interesting is Yeager's NF-104 ejection account.
Yeager & the NF-104
"What happened on this flight was that when the airplane came into the atmosphere, at about a 50-degree angle of attack, I couldn't get the nose down. The airplane pitched up and went into a flat spin. Now airplane is in a flat spin and, because there is no air going through the intake ducts, the engine stops. When that stops, then you no longer have hydraulic pressure to run the horizontal stabilizer, the aileron or the rudder. So you are in a no-win situation. That's exactly what it is. You sit there. But you have one other alternative, that's eject. I also had a drag chute on the airplane that we use for landing. The airplane was in a very flat, slow spin. I had my pressure suit on and it was inflated. I sat there and watched. I was talking to Bud Anderson who was chasing me in a T-33. He was down, way down though, looking at me coming. "
Yeager & the NF-104
"What happened on this flight was that when the airplane came into the atmosphere, at about a 50-degree angle of attack, I couldn't get the nose down. The airplane pitched up and went into a flat spin. Now airplane is in a flat spin and, because there is no air going through the intake ducts, the engine stops. When that stops, then you no longer have hydraulic pressure to run the horizontal stabilizer, the aileron or the rudder. So you are in a no-win situation. That's exactly what it is. You sit there. But you have one other alternative, that's eject. I also had a drag chute on the airplane that we use for landing. The airplane was in a very flat, slow spin. I had my pressure suit on and it was inflated. I sat there and watched. I was talking to Bud Anderson who was chasing me in a T-33. He was down, way down though, looking at me coming. "
The account reminded me of the T-33 Silver Star. I did my jet training in the Canadian version of that which had the RR Nene 10 engine which had about 2000 lbs more thrust than the original US version. It was a hot ship for those days and made me think that the Vampire had an engine problem when I first flew one of those
The RAF instructor was quite upset when I mentioned it!Les
02 December 2008, 04:10 PM
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Thanks for that, pretty terrible accident and a shame to see such an interesting aeroplane destroyed as well the loss of life involved. I did not realise it was the suction from the engine air intake which set it all off.
The account reminded me of the T-33 Silver Star. I did my jet training in the Canadian version of that which had the RR Nene 10 engine which had about 2000 lbs more thrust than the original US version. It was a hot ship for those days and made me think that the Vampire had an engine problem when I first flew one of those The RAF instructor was quite upset when I mentioned it!
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The account reminded me of the T-33 Silver Star. I did my jet training in the Canadian version of that which had the RR Nene 10 engine which had about 2000 lbs more thrust than the original US version. It was a hot ship for those days and made me think that the Vampire had an engine problem when I first flew one of those
The RAF instructor was quite upset when I mentioned it!Les
The T-33 still flew up to 1994 here, think it was the standard yank version.
03 December 2008, 12:46 PM
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When I went to do my first takeoff in the Vampire, when I released the brakes the initial acceleration was less than the good old Harvard let alone the Canuck T-33. I looked at the instructor and said" Is the engine alright?" and he gave me a clout round the head for being cheeky! Trouble was-I meant it!
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