wrx9181

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Excuse me for being thick but to use this you need to
1 get car mapped for its use
2 find a morrisons that supply it
3 fill up jerry cans with it
4 take it home and mix with v power to 20 or 30 %
Is this write?

Shaun

It could even be "right"!

dynamix

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Yes - it needs mapping for.
Yes - you need to find the fuel.

use in the same way that people do with methanol. Put in 5 litres from a small can when you fill up with 45 litres of vpower. (thereby running a 10% mix)

lunar tick

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No more so than storing E85 though point taken about invisible flame! Remember that E85 contains 15% petrol which is packed with lovely carcinogens such as toluene and benzene.

Not having a dig matey - if I could possibly use E85 rather than methanol, I would

PS - expect a pm soon about that MD321V turbo - I'm running the H and your posts on the V have got me twitching and my bank manager worried

typeRv4

Just to add for a balanced discussion.

The invisible flame only happens if you burn it neat. If your car / home was on fire don't worry you will see it

Methanol and Ethanol are both less volatile/harder to ignite than Petrol. No one seems to mind storing 50 litres of petrol in there garage albeit in their car.I have heard of more fuel leaks in cars than drums.

As said above petrol contains a high percentange or aromatics (toulene, xylene etc) which are not very good for your health either.

Methanol has a considerable higher power potential.
Its latent potental for absorbing heat is about 15% higher than Ethanol
Methanol is 50% by weight Oxygen - Ethanol about 35%.

So you don't need as much of it as Ethanol for the same effects and its cheaper.




But I agree ethanol if more widely available is worth considering.

dynamix

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- the cost to upgrade to a V wouldnt be much after you have sold the H

I only started this topic to get people considering it. Methanol is good but access to it is limited and aside from it being dangerous stuff, it was illegal for me to use in Time Attack. I have tested on both Methanol and E85 and I will not be going back to Methanol. E85 is better.

Not everyone can get it for 70 p per litre, and at some point there may be a knock on the door from customs & excise to ask for unpaid fuel duty on using it as petrol. E85 is fully duty paid so can be used without need for subversion.

Zen have set the ball rolling in the UK with using it on their race car, I wanted to do this much earlier this year but it was not possible for varying reasons. If anyone was considering getting their car mapped for using it as a sole fuel or using it as a % then I would highly recommend chatting to Paul and getting him to do the mapping.

overlord

would it be possible to get it delivered as i live on the the isle of wight and super unleaded is £1.27 when they have it.
Also there is a article in japanese performance this month about e85

phil_wrx

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here are the morrison stores that have e85

Bridgwater
Cardiff Bay
Clevedon
Crowborough
Dereham
Diss
Dundee
Hartcliffe (Bristol)
Ipswich
Johnstone
Liverpool (Speke)
Livingston
Llanelli
Lowestoft
Norwich
Swadlincote
Taunton
Wellingborough
Weston Super Mare
Yeovil
York

Henrik

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It's very popular in Sweden (both the standard bio-fuel cars and petrol turbo's remapped for e85), but availability in England sucks, to be honest: Where you can buy bioethanol in the UK

It's a shame, I'd be willing to use it, but not when there aren't any petrol stations selling it

Edit: Sorry, just realised the list was identical to the one posted above, although from the saabbiopower web site

dynamix

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The thing is, the availability isnt going to change unless people start asking about it. I filled a couple of Jerry cans in dereham on Saturday and the last person to fill up with e85 was me a few weeks before !

More people talking about it = more requests = more availability.

banny sti

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Would love to try some, is there anyone in store on in the petrol station that you can speak to about getting a pump?

Banny

Henrik

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Yes, but equally, I can't have my car mapped for it if I can't fill it up anywhere within range of home, so to speak Especially as E85 gives worse fuel economy (usually).

I might do the jerry can trick, there's a morrisons 20 miles from where I work that sells it, apparently

boostdude

simon jgm

trails

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Ian

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if shell did something like this, i would 100% use it, maybe as a 10% mix, if not a full 100% if it was sold at all there stations

STiFreak

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I will have a chat to the Morrisons at Cambourne and ask them to stock it, as Wellingborough is just a bit too far IMO.

I think there would be a lot more people prepared to consider this if it became available on most uk forecourts.

When I have my new injectors fitted and get around to it, I'll have a go at mapping my car with 20% E85 to see what the VF35 can do on this mix before it gets replaced. Should be interesting

dynamix

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I suspect there will be someone else on here saying how much they like E85 shortly

Turbotits

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I'd like to try it with a mix. Anyone got any e-mail details of who to ask or is it a case of going to my local morrisons and asking?

dynamix

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Who to ask what ?

The link earlier in the thread gives a list of the morrisons selling it.

Dont use it without mapping though.

Turbotits

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Sorry i wasnt clear. The nearest one on the list to me is about 60miles. I was looking for some details of someone at morrisons that i could push a little to have stocked at a site nearer to me.

Mappings not a problem

hagan051083

i have put BioEthanol in my car witch is totally standard! the power seems up by alot, runs smother. Is there anythin i should watch out for? i havent had re-map or anythin no changes to the car! but seems to be working fine, just wanna know what u lot think an should i get it mapped even tho it feels better than normal? with no problems as yet

Henrik

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What mix of ethanol / petrol are you using?

hagan051083

just straight out the pump from morissons. nothin added to it, running great am impressed! just abit worried somethin might go wrong, wanted to see all your views.

Shaun

I can't see how power can be up, if you have not had a remap for the higher octane.

dynamix

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oxygen

dynamix

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You ran PURE E85 ?

You are nuts !! - It needs remapping for that as it would be running dangerously lean. You need 30% more e85 than petrol to maintain the same fuel ratio.

It needs remapping if you want your engine to last more than a couple of hundred miles.

hagan051083

power up coz octain rating? am not good with this stuff all i know is there is a big difference in power! i just wanna know if it will do damage not being mapped for this fuel but as for running it seems better than eva!

hagan051083

i dont know if its pure i got it out the pump! isnt it 15% petrol anyway?
if it was running lean wouldnt i be down on power?

Shaun

Duncan,
Is it REALLY that dramatic without cranking the ignition up?

hagan051083

as u can see i dont know much about it! which is why am asking 4 help an advise! has any one ever tried it without remap? if i get it mapped would i have to tell the insurance? am going to take a look at my plugs 2morrow see if any deposit's on em? anythin to watch out 4? an thanks for post so far.