Why arent you using E85 / BioEthanol ?
09 December 2009, 11:27 AM
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Have just posted this question to Contact Us - Morrisons :
Hello,
I would like to buy E85 fuel but your nearest stations are about 60 miles away. Would you consider stocking E85 at Cambourne or Royston?
Regards,
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Hello,
I would like to buy E85 fuel but your nearest stations are about 60 miles away. Would you consider stocking E85 at Cambourne or Royston?
Regards,
Worth asking; if you don't ask you don't get! Try a similar query for your local area...
Andy
If a we all did that,there be everywhere.
Was wondering,does E85 make our decated scoobs more MOT friendly?
09 December 2009, 11:32 AM
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I'm living in Ireland, and travel from east to west twice a week.
I pass 2 maxol stations that sell E85.
With a completely standard car (MY 05 STI EUDM), if I run Maxol E5 which is a 5% mix and 98/99 octane the car runs great, if i run that for a full tank, then fill with RON 95 and try and boot it straight away, the car goes into limp mode,
I pass 2 maxol stations that sell E85.
With a completely standard car (MY 05 STI EUDM), if I run Maxol E5 which is a 5% mix and 98/99 octane the car runs great, if i run that for a full tank, then fill with RON 95 and try and boot it straight away, the car goes into limp mode,
Probably but check with your mapper (if the car has been mapped) - I would go with slightly less than 5L to be safe though.
09 December 2009, 11:35 AM
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Huge det spikes from the lack of octane causes the ECu to pull loads of timing and if bad enough will put it into limp mode because the advance multiplier has dropped down very low.
In simple terms.. there are lots of ways that the ecu tries to protect the engine. If it hears det it will remove timing and add fuel. If it hears it regularly in a certain rpm/load cell range then it may learn to keep timing low there but gradually try and add timing back in til it reaches the point where it is happy. This might be all the way back to full ignition advance or somewhere slightly lower if it still sees some det. It does this continually - always trying to get to the most efficient/safest scenario (with varying degrees of success) It may also choose to globally reduce the timing advance and run on the high det fuel map if it perceives the problem is bad enough.
Probably but check with your mapper (if the car has been mapped) - I would go with slightly less than 5L to be safe though.
In simple terms.. there are lots of ways that the ecu tries to protect the engine. If it hears det it will remove timing and add fuel. If it hears it regularly in a certain rpm/load cell range then it may learn to keep timing low there but gradually try and add timing back in til it reaches the point where it is happy. This might be all the way back to full ignition advance or somewhere slightly lower if it still sees some det. It does this continually - always trying to get to the most efficient/safest scenario (with varying degrees of success) It may also choose to globally reduce the timing advance and run on the high det fuel map if it perceives the problem is bad enough.
Probably but check with your mapper (if the car has been mapped) - I would go with slightly less than 5L to be safe though.
4psi peak boost increase and maybe some timing tweaks to suit that, but low to mid is un touched pretty much, car just pulls a bit harder at 5-6800, then tails off like it did when completely standard.
09 December 2009, 11:48 AM
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ive just spoke to morrisons i told them im located in north london and where would be the nearest place to me, they told me wellingbourgh which is just over an hour from where i am so unfortunately ill be sticking to meth for now untill they start selling them near me.
09 December 2009, 02:46 PM
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ive just spoke to morrisons i told them im located in north london and where would be the nearest place to me, they told me wellingbourgh which is just over an hour from where i am so unfortunately ill be sticking to meth for now untill they start selling them near me.
Yep thats my problem> Im just outside north London in Herts and go to wellingborough for mine> although the torque increase is worth it
09 December 2009, 02:53 PM
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From what I gathered it makes similar power as meth I was only planning to use it as its more envoiramentely friendly than meth also safer to have laying around. I think ill just stick to meth until morrisons or shell start supplying around me.
09 December 2009, 05:27 PM
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I emailed Shell and they said they had no plans to introduce 100% E85, but they are adding bioethanol to all their fuels, 5% or so.
09 December 2009, 09:21 PM
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i think its still got to be worth a shot. even at 10 or 20%
09 December 2009, 09:26 PM
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Yes.
20% mix costs virtually nothing as an octane booster (which in effect is what it is doing) and in my case gave around 10% extra power. I have mapped this mix on a few cars now and it has a similar impact on performance at more std modification levels than mine is.
20% mix costs virtually nothing as an octane booster (which in effect is what it is doing) and in my case gave around 10% extra power. I have mapped this mix on a few cars now and it has a similar impact on performance at more std modification levels than mine is.
17 December 2009, 11:16 PM
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I've been following this thread for a while, and would love to know if a few litres of bio in with a tank of super would lower emissions enough to get past the mot test?
Also a bit off topic i know, but i see on 22b that Zen have sold their Time attack car running bio ethanol.
45k !
Also a bit off topic i know, but i see on 22b that Zen have sold their Time attack car running bio ethanol.
45k !
12 February 2010, 11:36 AM
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If biofuels go, should we mourn them? | Environment | The Guardian
Had no reply to my Morrisons Cambourne query (except an acknowledgement 'your corresponsence is important to us...') so have given them another nudge before trying the phone.
Andy
12 February 2010, 08:50 PM
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Is that still rumoured Duncan? Outlook for E85 doesn't look good at moment with the 20p tax subsidy due to be axed (Nov pre-budget report) and Morrisons pulling B30 (biodiesel) from the forecourts:
If biofuels go, should we mourn them? | Environment | The Guardian
Had no reply to my Morrisons Cambourne query (except an acknowledgement 'your corresponsence is important to us...') so have given them another nudge before trying the phone.
Andy
If biofuels go, should we mourn them? | Environment | The Guardian
Had no reply to my Morrisons Cambourne query (except an acknowledgement 'your corresponsence is important to us...') so have given them another nudge before trying the phone.
Andy
Shell are def going to be going down the bioethanol route but it appears to be using as an octane booster like Tescos - I can live in hope though.
12 February 2010, 10:32 PM
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hope morrisons dont pull e85, i think they more they make it available the more it will get used and with a new morrisons being built just 4 miles away id no doubt run my impreza on the stuff as much as i could
cars been off the road for 2 months so not happy!!
15 August 2010, 06:49 PM
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That's the way I'm thinking of going TBH, just haven't really got the space to store a 200l drum, using it as a table didn't amuse the mrs 
It was very useful having Morrison's just up the road to use it straight from the pump! With Tesco less than a mile away it was very easy to fill up! Damn Morrison's !!
It was very useful having Morrison's just up the road to use it straight from the pump! With Tesco less than a mile away it was very easy to fill up! Damn Morrison's !!
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