Project P1 600bhp +
Makes more sense now! You wont have been doing 135 if you stamped on the brakes. TBH if you had put it into 4th at that speed, you would have gone past your rev limiter, as if i remember correctly (dont have my speedcalc sheet to hand) 4th is only good for 110max at 8000rpm.
Suspect you selected 2nd when your speed was probably around the 100mph mark, hence why it survived.
Suspect you selected 2nd when your speed was probably around the 100mph mark, hence why it survived.
Yes it was mate. That was a £10K TSL rebuild. In hindsight I got proper shafted on that.
I was told the rods were Carillo's and the pistons were omega. When I got it back I discovered I had Eagle rods and CP Pistons. I could have done the build for a quarter of the cost using the same parts but sourced by myself.
That experience was the catalyst for me embarking on the self building route. I've never looked back to be honest.
I was told the rods were Carillo's and the pistons were omega. When I got it back I discovered I had Eagle rods and CP Pistons. I could have done the build for a quarter of the cost using the same parts but sourced by myself.
That experience was the catalyst for me embarking on the self building route. I've never looked back to be honest.
£10k for a rebuild
How long ago was that and yes you were properly shafted. I only have one experience with TSL and it was an ecutek tune which cost me just short of £600 and while I was there the owner was trying to sell me bigger injectors as mine weere no good? Well I left there dissapointed after having a map to my ne td05 turbo and it not reaching full boost till 4200rpm
I then got in touch with andyf who fited an AVCR to my car and **** me my turbo came in at 3500rpm and it convinced me to go with a power fc. Andyf later tweaked my car to running 1.6bar on his laptop and the turbo came in at 3000rpm and guess what I was still on the same injectors 
I've still got the itemised bill somewhere.
The only new parts on the car were:
Rods
Pistons
Crank
bearings
Gaskets
Modine
Oilpump
and a set of tubular headers.
Remap
The heads were ported and polished and reshimmed but the standard valves and springs were re used.
That particular bill came to just just shy of £9K including vat.
I spent roughly £16K at TSL that year and had roughly 330bhp to show for it. Knowing what I know now £16K would buy me a hell of a lot more than what I got from TSL fooking shiesters.
This was in 2004.
The only new parts on the car were:
Rods
Pistons
Crank
bearings
Gaskets
Modine
Oilpump
and a set of tubular headers.
Remap
The heads were ported and polished and reshimmed but the standard valves and springs were re used.
That particular bill came to just just shy of £9K including vat.
I spent roughly £16K at TSL that year and had roughly 330bhp to show for it. Knowing what I know now £16K would buy me a hell of a lot more than what I got from TSL fooking shiesters.
This was in 2004.
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Now i have had a look at my ratios sheet, i do wonder if you did actually select 4th when down shifting from 135mph, which would have caused an over rev to 10000 rpm roughly (in 4th) and created a brief lock up. Easily survivable on the built engine you have.
As Paul said earlier, selecting 2nd would have resulted in approx 17000 rpm, at which point i dont think you would have had an engine left!
As Paul said earlier, selecting 2nd would have resulted in approx 17000 rpm, at which point i dont think you would have had an engine left!
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Now i have had a look at my ratios sheet, i do wonder if you did actually select 4th when down shifting from 135mph, which would have caused an over rev to 10000 rpm roughly (in 4th) and created a brief lock up. Easily survivable on the built engine you have.
As Paul said earlier, selecting 2nd would have resulted in approx 17000 rpm, at which point i dont think you would have had an engine left!
As Paul said earlier, selecting 2nd would have resulted in approx 17000 rpm, at which point i dont think you would have had an engine left!
mmmmm good point Steve. All I remember is hearing the rpm & 10 grand that would have sounded abnormal huh?
Would your ratio sheet show mph? or just rpm of a uk 6 speed in 4th ?
Not sure if you are taking about a dyno result or something else?.
Using 225/35/18 tyres as a guide.
RPM Gear: 1 Gear: 2 Gear: 3 Gear: 4 Gear: 5 Gear: 6
2000 10 16 21 27 38 49
2500 13 20 26 34 48 61
3000 15 24 31 41 57 73
3500 18 28 37 48 67 85
4000 20 32 42 55 76 98
4500 23 36 47 62 86 110
5000 25 40 52 69 95 122
5500 28 44 58 75 105 134
6000 30 48 63 82 114 147
6500 33 52 68 89 124 159
7000 36 56 73 96 133 171
7250 37 58 76 99 138 177
7500 38 60 79 103 143 183
8000 41 64 84 110 152 195
8500 43 68 89 117 162 208
9000 46 72 94 123 171 220
9500 48 76 100 130 181 232
10000 51 80 105 137 190 244
10500 53 84 110 144 200 256
11000 56 88 115 151 209 269
11500 58 92 121 158 219 281
12000 61 96 126 165 228 293
12500 63 100 131 171 238 305
13000 66 104 136 178 247 317
13500 69 108 142 185 257 330
14000 71 112 147 192 266 342
14500 74 116 152 199 276 354
15000 76 120 157 206 285 366
15500 79 124 162 213 295 378
16000 81 128 168 219 304 391
16500 84 132 173 226 314 403
17000 86 136 178 233 323 415
17500 89 140 183 240 333 427
18000 91 144 189 247 342 440
18500 94 148 194 254 352 452
19000 96 152 199 261 361 464
19500 99 156 204 267 371 476
RPM Gear: 1 Gear: 2 Gear: 3 Gear: 4 Gear: 5 Gear: 6
2000 10 16 21 27 38 49
2500 13 20 26 34 48 61
3000 15 24 31 41 57 73
3500 18 28 37 48 67 85
4000 20 32 42 55 76 98
4500 23 36 47 62 86 110
5000 25 40 52 69 95 122
5500 28 44 58 75 105 134
6000 30 48 63 82 114 147
6500 33 52 68 89 124 159
7000 36 56 73 96 133 171
7250 37 58 76 99 138 177
7500 38 60 79 103 143 183
8000 41 64 84 110 152 195
8500 43 68 89 117 162 208
9000 46 72 94 123 171 220
9500 48 76 100 130 181 232
10000 51 80 105 137 190 244
10500 53 84 110 144 200 256
11000 56 88 115 151 209 269
11500 58 92 121 158 219 281
12000 61 96 126 165 228 293
12500 63 100 131 171 238 305
13000 66 104 136 178 247 317
13500 69 108 142 185 257 330
14000 71 112 147 192 266 342
14500 74 116 152 199 276 354
15000 76 120 157 206 285 366
15500 79 124 162 213 295 378
16000 81 128 168 219 304 391
16500 84 132 173 226 314 403
17000 86 136 178 233 323 415
17500 89 140 183 240 333 427
18000 91 144 189 247 342 440
18500 94 148 194 254 352 452
19000 96 152 199 261 361 464
19500 99 156 204 267 371 476
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I think we can conclude that:
Clive was driving, brooom broooom, brooooooom. Clive went for the brakes and changed gear, fuzzed it up, NIIINGGGGNINGNINGNING - SQUEEEEEL, Clive crapped his pants, then carried on his way with his heart on the verge of coming out through his mouth. Car still runs and goes brooom broooom, brooooooom.
Case closed.
Clive was driving, brooom broooom, brooooooom. Clive went for the brakes and changed gear, fuzzed it up, NIIINGGGGNINGNINGNING - SQUEEEEEL, Clive crapped his pants, then carried on his way with his heart on the verge of coming out through his mouth. Car still runs and goes brooom broooom, brooooooom.
Case closed.
I remember that weekend well when stevens gearbox selected the wrong gear and broke his RCM engine as my car burst into flames. I was well pi55ed off with the damage to mine but it was hard to whine on about my problems to someone when they have just been deavasted by as much damage
sorry I thought your name was Steve too ??
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I have just clocked my 30,000th (trouble free) mile since RCM built it.
Not bad when considering the following:-
Power produced (Bhp per Cylinder)
Example: Audi R8 4.2 develops 51.7 Bhp per Cylinder
51.7 Audi R8 4.2 Quattro
37.5 Aston Martin Volante
59.7 Ferrari F40
51.7 M3 Alpine
48.3 Lambo Murcielago VT
69.5 Standard Impreza P1
70.3 Mercedes SLS (AMG)
82.1 Porsche 911 Turbo
125.6 2010 Formula One (average)
140.7 My P1
This thread has included a few comments from guys regarding the costs throughout the P1 build, and that it was money being thrown into the wind which pizzed me off to the point I very nearly shut the thread several times.
Other than one "component failure" (Map Sensor) the P1 has not missed a beat. I am not saying the P1 will never break as that would be stupid when running 38 Bhp short of 600.
I can now say to the same guys with the clever comments, you don't sound so fookin clever now, do you?
No dollar wasted here
Not bad when considering the following:-
Power produced (Bhp per Cylinder)
Example: Audi R8 4.2 develops 51.7 Bhp per Cylinder
51.7 Audi R8 4.2 Quattro
37.5 Aston Martin Volante
59.7 Ferrari F40
51.7 M3 Alpine
48.3 Lambo Murcielago VT
69.5 Standard Impreza P1
70.3 Mercedes SLS (AMG)
82.1 Porsche 911 Turbo
125.6 2010 Formula One (average)
140.7 My P1
This thread has included a few comments from guys regarding the costs throughout the P1 build, and that it was money being thrown into the wind which pizzed me off to the point I very nearly shut the thread several times.
Other than one "component failure" (Map Sensor) the P1 has not missed a beat. I am not saying the P1 will never break as that would be stupid when running 38 Bhp short of 600.
I can now say to the same guys with the clever comments, you don't sound so fookin clever now, do you?
No dollar wasted here
