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Old 22 September 2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by worley
They would have lost a lot more than one tonne of Helium
Have we got 20,000 scientists speaking like Chip 'n' Dale now and expecting us to take them seriously
Old 22 September 2008, 01:56 PM
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The LHC has not been built solely for the purpose of research into the Higgs field and particle. Even if it was, proof either way would be a success. It's just as important to prove theories are wrong, as that enables you to move on to the next theory, and the next, and the next. It's called scientific progress. It was built to further research into a wide range of things.

The Big Questions - Large Hadron Collider

Anyway, isn't it just an absolutely amazing engineering project, as well as the scientific aspect. I mean, how coolis it being able to build a device capable of smashing stuff together at mind boggling speed.

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Old 22 September 2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Actually, no that would be a win for the LHC as it's job is to prove whether they exist or not. Either way, understanding is advanced and science can move on. They either get to add what they learn about Higgs Bosons to the scientific pool or they start to figure out exactly where quantum theory is wrong.

The only possible fail is if it never manages to provide enough high-speed collisions.
I didn't make myself clear. I meant for Prof. Higgs, not LHC. As you say, this experiment is to prove either way and move on. Spending 40 years on a theory for it to be disproven would be a bit of a sore one! Apparently, many of his lectures at the University of Edinburgh were based on the theory that they do exist.

I think Bosons do exist and hope they are found; I believe everything in this universe is infinite.
Old 22 September 2008, 07:33 PM
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I think Bosons don't exist (a bit convenient for my liking) and the universe is merely so big as to be as good as infinite from our perspective.

As cool as this experiment is to find out the origins of the universe, I'd rather we spent time trying to recreate the moments before the big bang. Now that would be worth knowing!
Old 22 September 2008, 07:56 PM
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So if the universe isn't infinite, what's it contained in or constrained by, and what's outside that, and why isn't that part of the Universe
Old 22 September 2008, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChunkyDunky
So if the universe isn't infinite, what's it contained in or constrained by, and what's outside that, and why isn't that part of the Universe
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Old 22 September 2008, 08:09 PM
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Old 24 September 2008, 10:38 AM
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Completely knackered until next Spring.....ULTRAFAIL.
Its been ongoing for getting on for 20 years in the making and now the media blunder in and promote random $hite hysteria. Prompting the retards to comment...

There have been numerous technical hitches and delays encountered within the LHC and the detectors. ALL of them, large and small, have been overcome and the magnet failure will be a distant memory come next summer me thinks.

Btw I work for the ATLAS SCT
Old 24 September 2008, 11:03 AM
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If they do catch a fleeting glimpse of a Higg's Boson, what wiill they actually be able to do with it since it is not going to hang around for very long I imagine?

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Old 24 September 2008, 05:58 PM
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They cant even blow the planet up properly!
Old 24 September 2008, 06:36 PM
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They turned it on and a week later it was out of action for 6+ months....that's a pretty big screw up somewhere.
Sounds like an informed comment

They will not run over winter because the electricity costs too much, regardless of the failed magnets.

Can't be bothered to respond to any more ill informed retards
Old 24 September 2008, 09:55 PM
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Its cutting edge Particle Research, on a new facility, were people expecting a headline in October saying "Higgs Particle found, lets go home", if they were they are a bit simple, saying its a "Fail", no its not, its a setback that in the scheme of things will take no time at all to sort out.

Ok, 4 billion is a lot of money, but its been over a long time and funded by a lot of countries and it pales into insignificance compared to the money spunked on Oil Futures, Defence, Mobile Phones, Sky Tv and Scratchcards every year, we can either continue as we have been, making leaps or we can go, hmm MP3 players are the pinacle, now we can regress back into cave dwelling Burberry Clad knuckle draggers.

I Dont know why people feel the need to knock it, the thick are scared of it due to the media but I dont see the problem, its not doing us any harm, I dont suspect my contribution is a big as the ones taken to pay for Somalian Asylum Seekers, Bogus benefit claims, wars I dont support and the plethora of Wheelie bins outside my house.
Old 24 September 2008, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rabbos
Sounds like an informed comment

They will not run over winter because the electricity costs too much, regardless of the failed magnets.
You say you work there but then fail to the ninth degree to explain why LHC will not run over into winter months.

The actual reason is because there is not enough energy produced in the region to supply Geneva (in winter months) and the LHC at the same time. Cost was never a factor, a planning rejection in 1999 was.
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