V5RLTD

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If only i had £20k+ to spend on mine

Alan Jeffery

Just pay us by direct debit ! easy...

Of course, you don't have to spend that much to have some fun, that's the beauty of your Scooby.

V5RLTD

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Too true! Will be down for that fmic we spoke about soon

wrxlewis

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hi alan,its lewis thomas from pz cornwall,just a quick question,if you remember you done some work on a tommy kaira scooby a few years ago, i believe the new owner had a uk engine fitted ,this is now started smoking again,i was looking to buy it back and was wondering how much a £ a rebuild would be?,and the sort of power levils it would be with the td05 turbo that it has fitted,

many thanks,lewis

Alan Jeffery

Hi Lewis! hey, welcome, I knew you'd be back!
The trouble with that car was there was so much it really needed to move on from where it was. Of course we can create whatever you want, but I'd say an engine build and change of management is going to be a minimum. We can build you a fully fresh motor, fitted, to run 300 bhp easily enough for around £2700 inc vat. The alternative is to just pull the other one to bits, and see what it needs, although once you're in there..
The engine would take more, but I'm allowing for the only mildly uprated intercooler it has. Of course there are other details, like injectors etc. to check out.
That'll be our basic 2 litre build, with forged pistons, and Cosworth gaskets and bearings. You'll need a Simtek at £995 inc vat, fitted and mapped, to be able to take advantage of the engine.
Give us a call mate! you know the number...

wrxlewis

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hey alan,thanks for the reply,will give you a ring soon,need to pop and see you soon,as my sti bugeye has still got that annoying rattle,it hasnt got any worse,but its still there,it only does it when its hot,but looked at the heatshields and are all good,hopefully have a chat about this tommy kaira aswell,speak to you soon,thanks,lewis

HomerJunior

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Hi Alan,

Sorry if these are noob questions but I am very confused........

Is a new clutch required when changing the engine to cope with the new power and if so how much and what are the recommendations?

Where abouts are you based and roughly how long does it take. I also have a Simtek remap so does this complicate things?

Also how do I know if my head is intact. (Now that is a loaded question.......... ). Potentially I have a Piston Crown failure (though again I have no idea what that means....lol) so was wondering if that would mean the head was going to be an issue.

I also noticed the graphs you had up here for performance after the engine went in. Is that an additional extra or do you check it when it is being built (on the bench).

BTW, I have a MY UK99 if it helps!

Thanks,

E.

HomerJunior

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Alan Jeffery

Hi Buddy

Decent clutch is handy.. an Exedy uprated organic can go all the way up to 400 bhp if you aren't too aggressive with launches. A 2.5 build tends to be worse on clutches due to the extra torque. That's a reflection on the clutch, not the engine! I'd say a decent organic is the best if you can get away with it.

We are based in Plymouth, Devon, lead times are variable depending on what's on at the time. Best to 'phone for that one!

Simtek no problem as we were in at the very start!

We'd have to check your heads over, it's all dependent on condition, although it isn't that often we have to ditch the heads, even after a big blow up.

If you own a Subaru, it's a given that your head needs examining!

Graphs are based on actual performance, taken from our rolling road. Of course if your engine is toast, we can't take a "before" reading!

99 UK is cool!

Regards Alan

HomerJunior

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Hi Alan,

Awesome info.

I already have an exedy cludy so that helps I guess. Do you remap the engine then if you guys are familiar with Simtek? Not asking for definitive prices, just trying to see what extras I might potentially have to invest in...

The "before" reading cracked me up........ I love it!

Will wait to see the results of the compression test and will be back in contact!

Thanks,

banny sti

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How much for the motor including shipping to yorkshire, If I supply the CDB?

Banny

Alan Jeffery

My pleasure mate! Martyn has been mapping the Simtek as long as it's been out, and is very confident with it. Most full mapping sessions cost £240 plus vat with us.

Just call us anytime !

Alan

Alan Jeffery

Hi Banny!

It's £2050 inc vat for the conversion, plus new lower price of £143.75 inc vat for the rear thrust conversion to the CDB. Shipping around £30?
Just call us on 01752 345880 if you fancy a chat about it.

carpboy

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Does the price include a rebore if needed?

MartynJ

Yes, the price includes all of the machining and the short eninge is returned cleaned, painted and ready to fit your heads to.

Wmscooby

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Been watching the thread with everyone else asking and now its my turn.

I have a 2002 wrx Alan currently running 340/340 thanks to andy f and his vf35 sti downpipe pinks and full milltek decat what options and cost would i be looking at for circa 450bhp? ish

Thanks

Mark

Alan Jeffery

Hi Mark

I'd switch to a semi closed deck or fully closed deck block if you are going for 450 bhp. If you can supply a block, the price is the same at £2050 inc vat for the built 2.1 short block or £2150 including a nitrided crank. We have some spare blocks of both versions if you need us to supply one.
We can do a full drive in drive out based on the short block for just over £4000, which includes an RCM oil pump, ARP head studs, Cosworth head gaskets and sump baffle plate etc..
To make 450 bhp, you'd need another turbo and higher flow injectors of course, but the engine would be perfectly capable of hanging on to it.
We can offer a fitting and setting up service for those as well, including our
S206 conversion.
Please feel free to call us on 01752 345880 if you fancy a chat about it.
We're open during the week and Saturday mornings.

Godspeed Brakes

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Hi Alan
I have sent you my 2.5 block yesterday , you should get it monday , will be going for the full works , nitrided crank , steel rods , forged pistons ect
I've put a comp slip with my contact details in with it , give me a shout when you get it and confirm all is ok with it
Cheers Ian

Alan Jeffery

Will do Ian, thanks very much...

carpboy

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Hi Alan, can you explain the difference between the normal crank and the nitrided crank

monkeyboy173

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I knew it wouldnt take long before you were interested one little trip out in my 2.1 the other day and your already planning the next stage!! You wont go far wrong with Alan and the boys

Alan Jeffery

Nitriding is a heat treatment process using nitrogen gas. It raises the hardness levels of journals. Basically, it's a stronger crank.

carpboy

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Thanks for the quick reply. So would you say it would be a benifit to use a treated crank to a engine running around 450 bhp?

Mus

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very nice

Alan Jeffery

There's nothing wrong with the standard crank, and you certainly wouldn't break it at 450 bhp. The surface hardness is what the nitrided crank's about. It could be argued that it might survive a low oil pressure incident better than a standard one. For another £100 it may well be worth it!

stealthy55

whats the diff between a uk crank and a spec c?or is it the nitrated version?

mikey30

hi alan,
would it be possible to have a cdb built with 2.1 stroker with all the bells and whistles supplied by you and sent to me....
basically you supply everything..
i have a 2005 sti uk running 375bhp on standard engine with md321t and want to go 450-475 bhp max!!!
whats the best option???
cheers

Lateral Performance

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Rob,

The STi9 on would normally have a nitrided crank fitted.

As Alan says, nitriding is only a "surface" hardening, and in my experience, if you have a bearing fail due to lack of oil (oil surge, sticking oil pump pressure release valve, etc') and get "rod to crank contact", no amount of nitriding is going to save the crank, or anything else.


Mark.

stealthy55

cheers mark, this has always confused me as certain people claim the spec c are "stronger" but ive been told the uk cranks dont break anyway

Wmscooby

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True lol this is a 2010 thing though

Now where did i put my pennies