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Old 14 August 2008, 12:50 PM
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Fair play mate. Just of the mindset myself that diet is always important. Maybe im being over caring lol.

Since we got his diet right, no messy tum etc, we have just stuck with it.
Cant be doing the whole upsetting the routine thing now.

You know the breed far better than I, so I bow to your superior knowledge
Old 14 August 2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Fair play mate. Just of the mindset myself that diet is always important. Maybe im being over caring lol.

Since we got his diet right, no messy tum etc, we have just stuck with it.
Cant be doing the whole upsetting the routine thing now.

You know the breed far better than I, so I bow to your superior knowledge
Hi Mate,

Yours is a very valid point. There is cheap thats fine and there is cheap thats, well, crap.

Diet is critical - but it has to be what works for the dogs, of course

Tuvaac (sorry if I've mis spelled it) looks great - you've obviously got it right
Old 14 August 2008, 01:25 PM
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DD: would it be fair to say that a Rottweiler should only ever eat properly prepared dog food and that it should not ever eat pizza, chips, cake etc?
Old 14 August 2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
DD: would it be fair to say that a Rottweiler should only ever eat properly prepared dog food and that it should not ever eat pizza, chips, cake etc?
Woudl it be fair to suggest that your question may be a loaded one ?
Old 14 August 2008, 01:38 PM
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lol errrm whats wrong with pizza, as long as there is no spicy chicken on it !

DD, well put I should say. Each breed, each individual in an ideal world would require some adjustment. Tuv is far from a show standard dog, but his hair aint falling out, and he can run like a horse, so I guess we got something right like you say lol

Got paranoid about cheaper foods when researching Mal's early last year, seeing whats in some of the foods out there, and seeing what it can do to come coats, and dogs skin is shocking.
Not directly the food, but the lack of goodness in it.
Old 14 August 2008, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
DD: would it be fair to say that a Rottweiler should only ever eat properly prepared dog food and that it should not ever eat pizza, chips, cake etc?
Simon,

Acknowledging the fact that James is going to come under some criticism here for feeding Ty pizza, chips and cake, etc, then the answer to your question is, of course, yes. (with the caveat that properly prepared dog food can include raw/cooked meat and vegetables, bone marrow, etc, etc)

Arguably humans, let alone any breed of dog, should also stay well clear of pizza,chips, cake, etc - advice it appears you and James should heed if your recent posts are to be believed

I'm going to add something to Spoon's comments on the growling front (may as well, while I'm here)

Rotties as a breed require constant re-assertion of who is the boss. They will, in their own subtle, and not so suble way, and some more than others, continually seek to establish dominance in their pack, or "up" their standing. Its very rarely a problem that arises (often the worst case is that the dog owns the sofa) and its easy and very simple to handle if you know how, but its also the reason that some owners really have the wrong dog and things occasionally go wrong.

From James' perspective I wouldn't be worried about the odd bit of growling (as long as that's all it is) - its how he reacts and deals with it that matters. Because its going to happen from time to time, especially with dogs that are pets and not kept fully mentally occupied with work/training.

Rotties are extremely vocal (I can get my two to growl on command) dogs and have a range of growls from contentment through excitement to dominance, challenge and ultimately aggression. I've yet to meet one that did not communucate to some extent in this way.

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Old 14 August 2008, 01:57 PM
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I've got this special furry brush that you give the dog to chew, brings up his teeth a treat....

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I've got this special furry brush that you give the dog to chew, brings up his teeth a treat....





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Old 14 August 2008, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Woudl it be fair to suggest that your question may be a loaded one ?
It would, but Im only trying to help.
Old 14 August 2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
LOL

Butchers with tripe? No wonder his breath stinks

On the food front, if you are going to change his diet do it gradually and introduce the new food slowly.

Snazy, depends on the dog and the age. I'm going to talk Rotties here ('cos I know about them) but the critical period for getting the correct food is the the growth spell.

After that its about maintaining a decent balance. Shaggy, some of the cheaper dried foods are just ash and bulking agents. Some are fine, depending on the needs of a partcular dog.

Burns comes highly recommended for Rotties btw.

Our bitch is on Hills Science plan natures best dried. Its expensive but it works for her and keeps her in excellent heath.

Our boy unfortunately has food sensitivity issues . He's 5 now and since he's been fully grown he gets nothing but Chappie Chicken and Rice. Cheap as chips. But he's great on it.

We've discussed it with the vets over the years and every one has said that's fine for him as far as nutrients go.

The other thing to note is that the feeding guidelines are usually way too high, so reduce what it says on the bag by 25% and see how he goes to begin with. But watch carefully for any signs its not working for him.

Everyone has their favourites, and of course more active dogs need more protien. Non working dogs need less, and often get too much.

James, what is it that cosco is selling?
it is actually the science plan stuff mate. looks a bit like muesli? (sp?) or there is that bakers complete for the same price (he really likes that!).

yes he eats a lot of crap but we are trying to stop giving it to him.

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We have a bullmastiff and feed him on a dried food called Nutro Choice.
cOSTS ABOUT £40 FOR A 15KG bag but lasts nearly a month so your only talking of less than £1.50p a day to feed him.
Did a lot of research on food before making the choice but this is fantastic for him, his coat is spot on and teeth are perfect, also is good for his growth and size etc. No problems at all with his breath either.
Alot depends on budget but meat rather than dry does lead to bad breath
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
yes he eats a lot of crap but we are trying to stop giving it to him.

Old 14 August 2008, 04:37 PM
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its so easy to give it to him when he sits there when you have it, I forget sometimes its not good for him, im not a perfect dog owner.
Old 14 August 2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
its so easy to give it to him when he sits there when you have it, I forget sometimes its not good for him, im not a perfect dog owner.
No one is mate

Although Spoon may be along in a minute to suggest otherwise

Just remember that you are doing him a favour not giving him stuff he shouldn't get. Irrespective of how cute he looks when he sits there

Right, thats Ty's diet sorted. What about yours
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Pizza, chips, cake.....
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Originally Posted by Devildog
No one is mate

Although Spoon may be along in a minute to suggest otherwise

Just remember that you are doing him a favour not giving him stuff he shouldn't get. Irrespective of how cute he looks when he sits there

Right, thats Ty's diet sorted. What about yours
Its for the best not to give them crap. Especially good for the person who cleans up after them too.

Tuvaaq can look as cute as he wants, but when im eating he can go the hell away

As for Spoon, far from perfect, dont have a Malamute
Old 14 August 2008, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
No one is mate

Although Spoon may be along in a minute to suggest otherwise
Sure will, and I'd disagree with that strongly.
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
its so easy to give it to him when he sits there when you have it, I forget sometimes its not good for him, im not a perfect dog owner.

If I did that, Spoon would have my guts for garters

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Originally Posted by Snazy
As for Spoon, far from perfect, dont have a Malamute
Explain?
Old 14 August 2008, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Sure will, and I'd disagree with that strongly.
As if on cue

Which bit do you disagree with?
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Explain?
Explaination....... humour
My prefered breed, so you cant be perfect in my little world
Old 14 August 2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Pizza, chips, cake.....
I have never had a greasy spoon breakfast named after me
Old 14 August 2008, 05:21 PM
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Fail. Ive had two!
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My favourite being the Big Simon.....
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Never a truer word has been spoken
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Here's an odd one for you

Of all the dogs I know the one with an absolutely stunning coat is a Shetland owned by a chap who breeds Sturgeon. The fish are fed on a high quality, high protein, fish food and the dog adores the food pellets. The food has a high proportion of fish oil in it which I guess gives the dog's coat such a handsome shiny gloss finish!

He gets quite a lot of these mixed in with his other food and the results speak for themselves. He has been doing this for years and so there don't seem to be any adverse side effects.

In fact my dogs also love the pellets and follow me out when I go out to feed my Koi. Many doggie people buy a small packed to use as treats when training.

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