Scoobynet didn't pick any cars, it was SIDC vs MLR

There is no fuss.

Both car's are great, but not comparable, so there is no point in comparing them with each other.

Marketing purposes for the mag- Great Idea.

As a test or actual comparison of the marques- Pointless

 

If you lot think the comparision was unfair why didn't you refuse to go up against Gav? As if I'm not mistaken the MLR also took a full weight Evo8 running a GT30 which would have been as near as damn it the same power and weight?

 

No-one even knew on this forum about it until now.

I'm sure there would have been volunteers lining up around the corner to beat an Evo

It was all a bit of fun and publicity for the Mag, it's only the MLR boys who are hanging onto it as an actual Win and taking it seriously as a comparison!

They need a bt of comfort especially after the REAL comparison showed the true results at TOTB.

 

Well said

 

If they have another one of these, I will enter my car but before I do will strip quite a lot of it and let Chy drive it as he is a little special behind the wheel. Should be interesting as the playing field will be a little more level.

Banny

 

I dunno why there has to be any inter-club sniping. Both clubs love good handling, fast, entertaining japanese motors. I drive an evo but when i see scoobies i generally give them a wave. I'd say the two marques have more in common than not, yes ?

 

i also am a fan of both scoobs and evos
when i bought my first scoob it was a financial decision
also it needed to be sensible family transport
there are many reasons why i am still in a scooby
but not because i hate evos
my scooby stays true to why i bought my first scooby
it is still a family car
it looks near standard
has air con, multi play cd, sat nav, boot full of stuff(i kid you not)
and the way it was run is the way it leaves my drive day to day
even had a full tank of fuel
i do not diet(16 stone )or dump before events,
as suggested elsewhere
and i am happy with the days events all bar my launch tecnique

budgie

 

[QUOTE=peter budgen;8055268 l bar my launch tecnique

budgie[/QUOTE]


It looked very similar to The Stig's so you're keeping famous company, at least

 

damn, ive been rumbled

budgie

 

I think you would struggle to beat Gavin in his Evo around the cones in any car, be it a Subaru or another Evo. His TOTB handling time of 47.797s (Olly 48.484s) demonstrates this and he has put down equally impressive times all year in the MLR sprint series beating most of the higher powered cars. The MLR guys set us up a treat, Knoxville winning was a formality.
Regardless of who won, Budgie put in a good performance and his Subaru sounded lovely.

 

sorry m8
but as i arrived the red evo was there
i shook his hand and he said its not me m8
gav is on his way, therefore declining the offer

budgie

 

i think KEVIN horsley would of ben a fairer match

 

hmm who was the winner of TOTB the last two years

SIDC vs. MLR.

So MLR pick on a club who they have a better chance with as all the high modded scoobs are unlikely to be members of the SIDC.

 

Sorry mate; but you are talking utter sh*te!

Have you ever actually been in a genuine 400bhp Evo 5/6? A 'very' quick and capable car. I have owned both, and love both marques for different reasons. They are both very similar cars, designed for the same purpose.

I used to own a 325/319 classic UK scoob, which is granted not a type R; but still very similar in weight, engine, etc. Currently own an Evo VI running 325/303, and its DEFINETLY faster. Not by a massive amount; but is faster in a straight line and feels much more planted through the corners. So, im sure a 330bhp classic type R wouldn't be seeing off a 400 Evo 5/6.

I do agree the car's in the particular race were slightly unevenly matched, but maybe more so the drivers as the Evo driver has won many events in his 'underpowered compared to the competitors' Evo over the past year (no offence Scoob driver!). However a true comparison would've been a 400bhp 1998 type RA and a 400bhp 1998 Evo V, racing against the clock with the same driver IMO.

 

for one a uk classic runing 330 and a scooby type r runinng 330 is totaly diffrent kettel of fish THE TYPE WILL GIV IT A BEATING, im sory to say but but you owned the wrong scooby.uk car has nothing on a type r. the type r has much more closer gearing,better heads and not forgetting DCCD thefore makes it a more capble car ,the type r was the the car used as wrc they didnt use the uk SPEC.WHY DO U THINK ALL THE BIG TUNERS ALWAYS USE A TYPE R OR TYPE RA ZEN,rcm,slowboyracing lateral performance why didnt they buy the uk spec if it was as a great as u make out it is i aint knocking it but only stating the truth?????????OBVIOUSLY CAUSE ITs MORE CAPABLE THAN A UK CAR LOOKS BETTER AND THE TYPE R HAS stiffer chassie. .im sure these big repatuable tuners chose the type r for a reason they could of went for a UK a spec which is cheaper but insted they went for the type r or type ra so when you actuley drive type r or be a passenger plz dont chat bull.



They are both very similar cars, designed for the same purpose.
1998 type RA and a 400bhp 1998 Evo V, racing against the clock with the same driver IMO.[/QUOTE]

i totaly agree with the above comments that makes perfect sense.

 

one last ting type r vs evo 5 both FULL FAT give the evo 5 400 the type r 330 on the road will be tight. both runing the same power bothfull fat, the type R will muller it.fact

 

Don't think he is talking S actually.


Also owning a E6 TME as well as a STI RA at the same time, we carried out many different tests of acceleration from standstill and from rolling. The E6 TME with 340/340 and the STI standard, the RA was ahead each and every time. The E6 was not even quicker than the M coupe that we also ran comparison tests with.

It's not to say it's slow, it's just horse for courses. It handles great, and creates lots of grip, but out and out straight line speed (out of the box) I wouldn't pick it.


If we look at 1/4 mile testing, an E4,5,6 Will struggle to get into mid 12's when it is full fat, unless it is running over 360Bhp. A 310BHP Type R can get a 12.6 with a broken diff (as proved by K18LLR)...Some people have had 12.7 out of a standard Type R... The Evo is alot heavier than the R/RA versions and is longer geared.

However you hit the nail on the head with ]

The result from my own experience would have been alot different.

 

mate, paragraphs!

Your arguing about something most don't give a toss about....


The one thing I will say is that Gav (Knoxville) has beaten a lot more powerful cars inc Si Norris at TOTB in his 400bhp machine, he's an awesome driver and although Ive never seen Budgie drive round a track etc, id put money on him still coming out winner if he'd have driven the scoob.

There is very little between the two cars, and tbh unless you've owned both marques, IMO you can't really comment too much.

 

unforunatly i havent owned both i own a type r and i ve been in plenty of evos so i just stated the facts.

 

Ok fair play, but ill state the facts then, Gav won fair and square, why some of you just can't say well done is beyond me?

I realise there are similar sorts on the MLR, but for me it isn't really important.

I think tbh, its mainly due to the scoobs winning at TOTB that some on the MLR might have gave it the "big un" so to speak, don't read too much into it, we are all fiercley loyal to our chosen cars but the winners will vary so much year to year because they are so closley matched.

 

Gav well done mate,and massive well done to budgie

does that make u feel better
if uve been following this thread ul see the point i'm are trying to make is that the cars warent even to start of with .end of

 

Life aint fair.

 

Gav done well as always, and as proven before would have given any scoob a run for it's money and beat them around the slalom.

Your right though, the MLR were just hanging onto it due to TOTB, it's all abit of fun in the end and real comparisons can be made from true events such as TOTB.

 

They cant say well done because this is a scooby forum. As if its even important...it was a race ffs! I'm certainly no lewis hamilton, but i've blown away plenty of quicker cars over the years. In a tight track the driver makes a big difference. The scooby could have been 100bhp up on the evo for e.g, and still lost.

So with that in mind, its hard to see what everyone is complaining about really?? The only really fair way of comparing is to get a seriously quick driver to drive both the cars while they are being timed round the circuit to see which is the faster car.

 

Agreed

 

Ive got a racing SEAT that will kick all their *****.

Its faster than a 360 Modena on the Ring straight.
Ive got a picture somewhere, so Ill go and get it.

 

Damn!!

Host site is down!!

 

yeah yeah, how convenient

 

Its Up now.





Here you go, - its well fast.............................. Much quicker than my 400BHP scooby. (And I can crash it when I want!!).
















One Racing 'SEAT'.

But, it does help if you have the Playstation connected!!!!












Tony??, you didn't think I meant one of these 'imagination cars', did you?