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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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any sport that involves a ball getting kicked at some point, should be banned
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
This is 110% my problem with Celtic and Rangers. A bit of friendly club vs club, city vs city or even country vs country rivalry is fine if it's all in good spirits. I simply cannot stand that religion and creed is, as always, introduced until it becomes the dominant factor. This whole planet would be soooooooooooooooo much better off without any system of religion or beliefs. Pretty much every singles, if not every single, conflict in world history is as a direct or indirect results of different religious views?!!!

What place is there for it in football? What happened to just supporting the local team in the city you grew up in?
Sorry, Kenny.

Your "I hate Rangers...blah...blah...blah... tirade seemed rather one sided"

Apologies if that was misinterpreted
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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difference is, thats the national team fans, this was club fans doing the holligan sherard.

more english football takes place internationally anyway hence facts n figures are low for scotland, hence why the scot prem league wanted to join english prem league, english prem league said go **** urself
Are you trying to say that English club teams don't have a history of violence?
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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difference is, thats the national team fans, this was club fans doing the holligan sherard.

more english football takes place internationally anyway hence facts n figures are low for scotland, hence why the scot prem league wanted to join english prem league, english prem league said go **** urself
Complete and utter sh!te

Rangers and Celtic wanted to join the English PL for the greater competition that would allow them to compete better in Europe.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
difference is, thats the national team fans, this was club fans doing the holligan sherard.

more english football takes place internationally anyway hence facts n figures are low for scotland, hence why the scot prem league wanted to join english prem league, english prem league said go ***** yourself



There you go
Ah, ok. Now I see why some English fans have such a bad rep

BTW - it was only Rangers and Celtic who had considered the idea of an approach to play in the premiership - not the whole league.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Are you trying to say that English club teams don't have a history of violence?
Not sure what he's trying to say Pete, but he's doing a great job of shooting himself in the foot thus far
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Your "I hate Rangers...blah...blah...blah... tirade seemed rather one sided"
One sided in what regard? If it helps I regard that celtic and their fans are 'almost' as bad. That one time where I had to sit in Section N at Tynecastle I was disgusted at the yobs that unrolled and held union jacks aloft.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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fooking morons . pathetic
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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im a proud rangers supporter , whats wrong with displaying a union jack ??
admittedly the riots last night weren't the best idea by the 'supporters'

but to be fair most of it is the media's fault (AT LEAST !!!) argue all you want the media is to blame for insighting this trouble , front page the last week has been saying about the trouble to expect in Manchster , giving info on the trouble to expect etc !!
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Calm down, calm down, it's only a game

Perhaps one of the coppers said that to the Rangers fans and they got a tiny bit upset?

Some people take a sport far, far, far too seriously, and I think this is an example of that. Yes, there will be a hardcore of people who claim to love the game/team, but for them it's just an excuse to go and cave in a few heads, for the rest though, I really don't "get" the whole hatred of another team and their fans. Perhaps it's because I'm not "into" football and never have been.

I recall being at a friends place when his team (Spurs) were playing and losing and this chappy started crying, this was just a normal game, wasn't a cup final or anything like that. I was surprise and thought something else must be up, but no, it was just due to his team losing a game. I'm probably a heathen as I don't get why a loss would be such a bad thing.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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That policeman was unlucky radio 1 this morning tara from Manchester said i looked out the window and caught six rangers fans taking a dump on the road
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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im a proud rangers supporter , whats wrong with displaying a union jack ??
The fact that Rangers play in the Scottish Premier League; that their home ground is Ibrox....in Glasgow....in Scotland.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rossyboy
Complete and utter sh!te

Rangers and Celtic wanted to join the English PL for the greater competition that would allow them to compete better in Europe.

and i bet you believe in UFO`s too, what else are they gonna say
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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but the union jack is the british flag im a british citizen so can i not display it ?
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Are you trying to say that English club teams don't have a history of violence?
far from it, just correcting some stas that were quoted, the best rumbles are between portsmouth and plymouth, wahay,thats a riot !
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
The fact that Rangers play in the Scottish Premier League; that their home ground is Ibrox....in Glasgow....in Scotland.
Fine, as long as we can ban the tricolour from all the Celtic and Hibs games as well.

But...hang on...the last time I looked Rangers club colours were red, white and blue.

Kenny, you asked in what regard was your post one sided.

What part of:

"Animals. Every single one of them. I hate rangers, I hate their city, I hate their club, I hate their fans, I hate their beliefs. I hate everything about them."

Was a balanced commentary on the problems of sectarianism in Glasgow?

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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Ah, ok. Now I see why some English fans have such a bad rep

BTW - it was only Rangers and Celtic who had considered the idea of an approach to play in the premiership - not the whole league.

The rest of the league would be like bloody lemmings......... (the game that is, the real ones dont jump off cliffs )
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
The fact that Rangers play in the Scottish Premier League; that their home ground is Ibrox....in Glasgow....in Scotland.
Which is part of Britian

Bit like celtic flying tricolours - Except Ireland isn't part of Britian, obv.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
far from it, just correcting some stas that were quoted, the best rumbles are between portsmouth and plymouth, wahay,thats a riot !
You didn't correct any stats. You gave your own opinion (which was incorrect), and then go on to discuss "rumbles" between two English clubs in a manner that suggests that football related violence is all good stuff, having slated the Scots for what happened in Manchester

Lets be honest here, you are just a bigot - its nothing to do with the violence.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Bunch of fu**ing animals......regardless of what part of the UK they come from......that behaviour is inexcusable over a poxy football game!!!!

Break out the water cannon and the rubber bullets

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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
You didn't correct any stats. You gave your own opinion (which was incorrect), and then go on to discuss "rumbles" between two English clubs in a manner that suggests that football related violence is all good stuff, having slated the Scots for what happened in Manchester

Lets be honest here, you are just a bigot - its nothing to do with the violence.

corrected,you cant compare scot national football riots against english when scotland are only there,well,yea and england are there Most of the time, totally wrong.

and secondly,yeah,you got me on that one,shucks.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
The rest of the league would be like bloody lemmings......... (the game that is, the real ones dont jump off cliffs )
If you actually understood what was proposed, you would know that the rest of the league were, in fact, welcoming Rangers and Celtic moving away.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Celtic fans, yes. Hearts and Hibs are nowhere near as bad! There is a very small group of nutcase chavs in Section N at Tynecastle who share similar bigoted views but we are talking about a hundred guys at most and they are hated/feared by the 99% of the hearts population that, until recently (recently being, until rominov wrecked the club), enjoyed watching their team knock a ball about with no regard for issues out with the sport of football.

Hibs are pretty much the same; just last week my bro and I sat in the Pavillion - a hibs pub - having a few drinks chatting to the guys at the table next to us. It was a full 30 minutes of football chat before the question of, "who do you support" was raised. They were die hard hibs fans and after 30 seconds of friendly ribbing we continued with our pints and chatted about the shocking state of the SPL and the dominance of the old firm. No hatred, no hard feelings and certainly no racism, bigotry or religion of any kind - exactly the way it should be.

I've got a lot of rangers fan friends and most of them are fine. However, even the nicer ones say things I simply can't believe when you get a few drinks in them and get them riled up about football.
The whole rangers, celtic and religion thing is ridiculous up here. You can only guess, unless you're in the middle of it.

Religion has a lot to answer for, and why take what happened thousands of years ago and is probably all hear say to a football match.

No excuse for that behaviour in Manchester!!
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
Thats why i hate the Scots,****ing morons, fight the coppers who cant fight back, get 30,000 of english guys the other sid eof their crowd,then the fun begins.

and yes,they are all scots,only scots would support rangers.........
Idiot

What good would 30,000 Englishmen do against 150,000 pissed up Jocks

Scots football fans are relatively well behaved, unlike that of English fans. I dont need to remind you of the last 2 world cups

This CCTV was only a few hundred, there were over 100k in Manchester so a little pocket.
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Originally Posted by The Rig
corrected,you cant compare scot national football riots against english when scotland are only there,well,yea and england are there Most of the time, totally wrong.


Look at club level then. Look at teams in Europe. Look at the national sides.

On every count, English fans have a worse record.

Keep digging
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
This is 110% my problem with Celtic and Rangers. A bit of friendly club vs club, city vs city or even country vs country rivalry is fine if it's all in good spirits. I simply cannot stand that religion and creed is, as always, introduced until it becomes the dominant factor. This whole planet would be soooooooooooooooo much better off without any system of religion or beliefs. Pretty much every singles, if not every single, conflict in world history is as a direct or indirect results of different religious views?!!!
Spot on there mate!
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Dirty *******s the lot of them, regardless of where they were from that behaviour should not be tolerated - the poor copper that got jumped on was just a normal bloke, may even have been one of my mates.

For these idiots to be invited to Manchester and then behave like that shows exactly what they think of a great city

Typical UK football "supporter" behaviour though I guess.
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Originally Posted by Devildog


Look at club level then. Look at teams in Europe. Look at the national sides.

On every count, English fans have a worse record.

Keep digging

again, you were not on about club level,national leverl you were quoting.

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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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I believe its had a negative impact for the Man Utd fans that are staying in Manchester next week for their game against Chelsea.

There will be no fan zones set up now, so the behaviour last night has spoiled that for next week.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Why are people still quoting sh!te about English being worse than Scottish and vice versa? You're all just as bad as each other.
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