Geezer

(vii) Get hugely disappointed when you barrel your F1 car off the track and then carry on as if nothing had happened.
(viii) Get Grid instead

Geezer

PeteBrant

Damage doesn;t bother me too much (it's coming in December for GT5 prologue) But the F1 car in GT5 with a wheel is just unbeleivably good.

Just about to download the Grid demo - Can't have enough decent racing games as far as I'm concerned.

StickyMicky

the damage is GT5 is never going to be any good, i have no doubts that it will get added at some point, but i bet its crap, you might have a bumper missing and the car might only give 80% of the power, but its never going to be a decent damage model, the best damage model i have ever seen has been in LFS for the pc

but that game is calculating everything, suspension angles, clutch preloads, the whole lot, GT5 will just be a simple

"if bumper = no then power = 85%" IMO

the time for GT5 is over, its been drawn out to long and left itself open to attack, the cars look nice, but its all just eye candy with ****e physics underneath. i`m not saying the grid has better physics its just that GT5 seams to have concentrated on the wrong things and missed out the ones that people want (a fun game that lets them think they are driving a fast car)

the only thing i think it has going for it, is that its for a console, and i can see PC gaming dieing a horrible death within the next few years!!

console racers will be where its at in the future

Geezer

Of course, each to their own.

The reason I prefer Grid is that the damage is so realistic (or severe) that it really does make you thikn about how you drive. Although I have tried to drive sensibly in various GT games, ultimately I knew that I couldn't retire due to damage, and for me at least, that took somethig away from the game.

I think that GT is probably more accurate in handling, but as a racer that makes you work hard, Grid is streets ahead.

All IMHO of course!

Geezer

Funkii Munkii

Cheers Pete i'll give it a go

Iain Young

It would be even better if it handled anything like an F1 car

PeteBrant

It does - As far as any of us are able to tell what an F1 car handles like!

No other racer I have ever played comes close to that F1 car in GT5. Probably too much with the SixAxis, but with a DFP it's just awesome.

Back to grid..

Hmmm, I am not convinced. Looks nice, damage is spectacular, sense of speed is great. But the steering is far too sharp.

Looks like it could a be great single player experience though, with the career path etc. I did like the Toco Race driver games for that.

Geezer

Have you played Grid with your wheel Pete? I personally didn't find the sterring too sharp, but I have heard a few people say this. If so, is it markedly better? I would imagine that a wheel would hepl in the drifting events.

I must admit, whether it is realistic or not, and the steering too sharp, I find it hugely enjoyable, and that's all that matters really. Looking forward to the full game.

I do hope they put decent damage modelling in to GT5, I may even buy if if they do.

Geezer

PeteBrant

Not yet - I'l try it during the week and see if it makes any difference - usually when it too sharp with a controller it's ok with a wheel.

Geezer

Here's one for all you wheel owners with PS3.

What do you attach it to? Am I unusual in having the PS3 in the lounge? I have no table/desk to attach to like for my PC, so would a wheel purchase be ultimately fruitless for me?

Geezer

PeteBrant

I have my PS3 in the lounge - It fit on the coffee table - Its not ideal but it does the job. If you are going to go for something like a DFP, then it no good on your lap, the force feedback will send it flying.

You can buy lap board type things, that you sit on and give you a surface to mount the wheel on - Dunno if the are any good though - Amazon do them.

Fabioso

I tried the demo but I wasn't impressed with the handling.....way too artificial like imo. The only thought that came into my mind while playing the demo was oh well another game I don't have to buy.......

bob269

TBH handling is a hard thing to convey in a demo, all racing games seem weird at first, once you're acustomed with it it usually slots in to place, but it normally takes a good deal of races.

Ghetto Dude3

DFP needs clamped down, its a proper beast of a wheel, remember its got 900 degrees rotation, that sucker needs nailed to a concrete block

PeteBrant

Just to harp on about it some more.

When in the F1 in GT5, the feeback is incredible. Very strong, and when you get up to near top whack.... well, I won't spoil it

Dream Weaver

Tried this on PS3 last night.

Visually its stunning and I quite enjoyed it, some of the details are excellent and I like the flashback addition:

Touring car race: Strange light steering but the crashes were good.

Drifting: Really good - spent an hour replaying this race.

San Fran Muscle cars - Excellent, as bob says Burnout meets Forza, really enjoyed this bit.

So thumbs up from me, will probably buy it although I may be getting bored of the whole racing sim thing, there is not much new these days.

I remember the guys behind Final Fantasy were going to do some sort of RPG based on cars and racing but it never happened - maybe its time that idea was brought forward again?

StickyMicky

i use mine on LFS for the pc with the feedback settings set to 200%


catching a slide in the gtr cars is fun