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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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I am no racist and treat everyone the same (if possible) I have Asian friends and go to BBQ's in the summer etc and observe traditions which means I will do my share and go to an Halal butchers so I can join in and pay my way I have read all your posts and agree with some disagree with others as it is with all the posts in this debate one mentions "chips on shoulders" reading your posts pretty much puts you in that category. The comment you made about it being a "Northern Thing" is offensive to me and pretty much in my eyes "racist" you are free to say what you think and I will not be complaining about the remark it's your opinion and freedom of speech should allow you to state what you think with no fear of reprisal.
Mal,

I never said for one second that you were racist at all now did I? I know you about as well as you know me mate, ie not at all. I however have not judged you in any way. You are a little wide of the mark by saying I have a chip on my shoulder and are being a tad judgemental.

Now, I do concede that you got me on the 'Northern' thing, it was a little dig only and not meant to cause any offence, apologies if it did.

I just find the story you related from the traffic warden to be completely untrue and something that he just made up at the time. I will never believe it. I'm sorry.

On the offence thing however, you will never in a million years convince anyone that (generally speaking) being called 'Northern' is genuinely offensive, certainly not racist as you say. I concede however that it may have felt that way in the context of this thread.

One last thing though Mal, do you have any better examples of the protection you referred to in your earlier post? All I can say is that I do not benefit from such things, neither do I wish to. I find it hard to believe because of my own experience that's all.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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"I just find the story you related from the traffic warden to be completely untrue and something that he just made up at the time. I will never believe it. I'm sorry."

So you say in your post you don't know me and then proceed to call my wife's Uncle (The Solicitor) a liar just goes to show what happens when judgemental people like your self get involved in a debate were apparently only you are right !!

How sad is that ?



As for protection that is at a higher level "Government" not wanting to create racial tension lets face it police arresting a couple of white males would not cause a public riot unlike Bradford

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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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I did read what you posted, how could I have responded in kind without doing so

Your main problem is ' detriment by association' whereby you dislike being lumped into the barrel of rotten apples just because of your skin colour.
Well I dont see the French getting all upset and starting riots just because we say they smell

But anyway I digress. The issue you had with me was my post. Fair enough, thats your right. But I also have the right to make comments on here which may be close to the bone or slightly contentious..its just how I see it.
If they get deleted or removed, so be it. If I got an infraction for it, so be it.
You seem to jump into every race related thread, whether you have a relevant point on the issue in hand or could offer some first hand advice. Instead you seem to almost relish the interaction.



About as far as I would...whats your point ?



I certainly do and will continue to post in whichever way I feel fit. I am sure you will do to
Swiss,

You have understood in the main where I am coming from, that's fair enough. Saying that I "relish in the interaction", I take as a compliment. It's what this BBS is about imo.

I will reiterate that I have no trouble with your views, I have read many of your posts over the years, the jokes, the banter, and some of the insight into your personal life which you have provided, all very amusing and interesting.

I cannot, right now (and my memory is good for these things) remember a single post where my reaction was the same as the other day.

Looking back on it, with the benefit of hindsight and bearing in mind the above, perhaps it was not as bad as it looked? For the record I never called you racist, just that one post. Perhaps a case of the Ron Atkinson's?

Look at my post count, it is easily outnumbered by the volume of race related threads on SN in that time. If I had had more time, who knows?

But, anyway, let's move on. I will take your hint above and try to post on a more varied range of subjects, I have stubborn opinions on everything you will find.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mal_howarth
"I just find the story you related from the traffic warden to be completely untrue and something that he just made up at the time. I will never believe it. I'm sorry."

So you say in your post you don't know me and then proceed to call my wife's Uncle (The Solicitor) a liar just goes to show what happens when judgemental people like your self get involved in a debate were apparently only you are right !!

How sad is that ?



As for protection that is at a higher level "Government" not wanting to create racial tension lets face it police arrest a couple of white males would not cause a public riot unlike Bradford
Mal,

I was referring to the Traffic Warden, not the Uncle! Calm down!

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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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No need to calm down nor do I take kindly to being patronised I will no longer post on this "debate" as only you can be right


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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mal_howarth
No need to calm down nor do I take kindly to being patronised I will no longer post on his "debate" as only you can be right

Sorry Mal but you only have yourself to blame.

You made a sweeping generalisation then have refused to back it up with any facts, just a 2nd hand anecdote. What do you expect?

And now you're getting upset.

I have already conceded a couple of points to you, can you not 'debate'?

I thought you were 'chilled'?

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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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Looks like this is going nowhere fast....

What's that saying.. "Just because your not paranoid, doesn't mean they'll not get you"
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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Odds on
Looks like this is going nowhere fast....

What's that saying.. "Just because your not paranoid, doesn't mean they'll not get you"
You're right, its been done. All have made their points.

LOL at the quote.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:50 AM
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i'll lighten this thread by tempting fate ...we'll see how this goes...


what do you call a good looking asian??? asif !
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Old May 7, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Swiss,

You have understood in the main where I am coming from, that's fair enough. Saying that I "relish in the interaction", I take as a compliment. It's what this BBS is about imo.

I will reiterate that I have no trouble with your views, I have read many of your posts over the years, the jokes, the banter, and some of the insight into your personal life which you have provided, all very amusing and interesting.

I cannot, right now (and my memory is good for these things) remember a single post where my reaction was the same as the other day.

Looking back on it, with the benefit of hindsight and bearing in mind the above, perhaps it was not as bad as it looked? For the record I never called you racist, just that one post. Perhaps a case of the Ron Atkinson's?

Look at my post count, it is easily outnumbered by the volume of race related threads on SN in that time. If I had had more time, who knows?

But, anyway, let's move on. I will take your hint above and try to post on a more varied range of subjects, I have stubborn opinions on everything you will find.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
i'll lighten this thread by tempting fate ...we'll see how this goes...


what do you call a good looking asian??? asif !
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Old May 7, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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did you like that tony ? ya racist bampot ! i am infracting you for luaghing at a joke !
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Old May 7, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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did some haggis munching, foul mouthed celt just call me a 'bampot '

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guilty !
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Old May 7, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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guilty !
What is a bampot ya sweaty?
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Old May 7, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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ohhhhhhh....****...i missed this post, i was busy...oh bollocks...well i say..was a little shocked at the last thread getting Vaped...

and now i have missed this one!!..

tony:- is everything getting sorted with your motor?


life, is not as they say, a box of chocolates, its what you are given..so many of us live life as though we have many more tucked away..as a proud man once said, its not yesterday that i worry about..nor is it today..but tommorrow..for if i do indeed awake..it will be a miracle..

we are all made of the same stuff..made on the same production line..assembled..only to be dissembelled sooner or a later..as long as the part fits...would you deny it..knowing that it will give you life..or a loved one his/her/their lives back...NO!!..so i am asian..in my blood courses the same blood that has soiled this earth for centuries..over war, race, religion, oil, but the difference is, we have learnt right from wrong...

so if we spill a little hatred using the pen..(or rather keyboard!)..yes anger ensues, but at least we are not spilling blood...i applaud you all...that we can still express our views with words and not our hands..

lets keep it that way...its what builds healthy long term relationships..there will always be no good for nothing ******* out there...but that as they say..."IS LIFE"
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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
i'll lighten this thread by tempting fate ...we'll see how this goes...


what do you call a good looking asian??? asif !
LOL! I will take that any day of the week, honest, and not just because we have agreed with each other on this thread.

I have far too many racist jokes in my repertiore don't you know? Mostly courtesy of Bernard Manning (RIP), of whom I am a real fan, (believe it or not)

My Scottish friends get it in the neck from me Rab, so beware! As do all my other mates from around the country. They reciprocate 100% of course.

A nice end to the thread mate.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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LOL! I will take that any day of the week, honest, and not just because we have agreed with each other on this thread.

I have far too many racist jokes in my repertiore don't you know? Mostly courtesy of Bernard Manning (RIP), of whom I am a real fan, (believe it or not)

My Scottish friends get it in the neck from me Rab, so beware! As do all my other mates from around the country. They reciprocate 100% of course.

A nice end to the thread mate.

Asif
i thank you mate ! at least you seem to have a grip on it all ! anyway.. the next time your national football team get a corner...



dont build a shop !
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Old May 7, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
i thank you mate ! at least you seem to have a grip on it all ! anyway.. the next time your national football team get a corner...



dont build a shop !

ROFL!

Take your pick from these. There are some choice ones there.

Scottish Jokes Page1

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aye, they are good.. i dropped 10p the other day and it hit me on the back of the heid !

joking aside asif.. can you imagine such a site being posted up here.. outrage and infractions would ensue by the pc brigade.. the uk is a crazy place to be.. there is no evenhandedness (real word ? ) available and in play.. sad but true.. happy days anyway, i now know a smelly paki witha sense of humour !

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I can confirm that Asif doesn't have a chip on his shoulder.

He very well balanced, like a Scotsman, got a chip on both.

Sorry, couldn't resist, mate.
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
aye, they are good.. i dropped 10p the other day and it hit me on the back of the heid !

joking aside asif.. can you imagine such a site being posted up here.. outrage and infractions would ensue by the pc brigade.. the uk is a crazy place to be.. there is no evenhandedness (real word ? ) available and in play.. sad but true.. happy days anyway, i now know a smelly paki witha sense of humour !
He likes a drink too. Where did I put that bottle of Broon Ale reserved for him
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Old May 7, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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i am glad i havent recieved an infraction for this and it kinda renews my faith in human nature which was a bit depleted... and get it right.. its a sack of tatties... not a chip... much more than that !
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There's a massive difference between good natured banter and racism. As well as honest open discussion and racism.

It's knowing the difference and where to draw the line, that many have a problem.
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i tend to agree.. i post as humour as loads more post as intently offensive ... its knowing the difference between these kinda people...i know its hard but as we cant se people and how they are, its going to be a tough thing to do !
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
aye, they are good.. i dropped 10p the other day and it hit me on the back of the heid !

joking aside asif.. can you imagine such a site being posted up here.. outrage and infractions would ensue by the pc brigade.. the uk is a crazy place to be.. there is no evenhandedness (real word ? ) available and in play.. sad but true.. happy days anyway, i now know a smelly paki witha sense of humour !
LOL!

It is possible to find some sanity in this madness, sometimes you just have to look in the right place.

This is very nice. I can imagine us all in the pub, having a laugh and buying each other drinks...well...us lot buying you drinks anyway Rab, as you are such a tight Scots git!!

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Originally Posted by mickywrx
I can confirm that Asif doesn't have a chip on his shoulder.

He very well balanced, like a Scotsman, got a chip on both.

Sorry, couldn't resist, mate.
Hey Micky?

Nice one mate and thanks for the vote of confidence. Some people here have me all wrong. Not Rab though, top bloke.

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Originally Posted by mickywrx
He likes a drink too. Where did I put that bottle of Broon Ale reserved for him
Aye Micky, you got that right!

The Father of a mate of mine (Mancunian) used to shout, "Get the beers in, I'm dehydrating!" when it was someone else's round. Very funny at the time.

I reckon Rab should get the pints of Heavy in myself. Hope we don't have to wait too long though!

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Howay man, you should know by now, Rab's got short arms and DEEEEEEP pockets. His feckin pockets echo.

Asif, mate, was just in jest, maybe smilies wrong way round?

Gotta watch out for Swiss Tony though. He's a pretendy Geordie.
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Howay man, you should know by now, Rab's got short arms and DEEEEEEP pockets. His feckin pockets echo.

Asif, mate, was just in jest, maybe smilies wrong way round?

Gotta watch out for Swiss Tony though. He's a pretendy Geordie.

rab's so tight that he opens a mars bar underwater


and micky....
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