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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mal_howarth
"I'd love to know how I (a 'minority') rule the lives of the white majority in this country. Please tell me.

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Quite simple really it's called "over protection" the fear by Police or otherwise to act in case racial tension is raised
Mal,

But where and how please?

I have had an ongoing dispute with my (white) neighbours for several years now (forcing me to leave unfortunately) They have damaged my property on several occasions, even admitted to it (as accidents), trespassed on my land continually for several years now, abused me, my Wife, Family and friends who come visiting, threatened us, dumped their rubbish on our land etc etc.

I complained to the Police who have had a word with them, no more. I complained to the local Authority ASB Team who were so utterly useless I cannot put it into words.

So where is the 'over protection' I'm getting?

I don't receive any benefits or special provision for anything, I own my own home, pay my taxes and grumble along like everyone else.

When I drive past the dole office I see mainly white people hanging around, the drunks on the park benches are mainly white. All these people are 'allowed' to do this.

When I was made redundant a few years ago, I got dole but sod all else (ie I didn't get any sort of 'special ethnic grant' or a council home to live in.

So, please tell me how I am being treated as 'so special'.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Looks like you are a "majority" like the rest of us normals I live near Keighley\Bradford and thats possibly why I see the "over protection" police will move along certain groups but will avoid like the plague others now it does not matter to me if people are pink,white,black,yellow they should all be treated the same. My wife is disabled and worked for a solicitor in Keighley he asked a traffic warden if it was ok for her to park on double yellow lines while her disabled parking pass arrived and the car park was re-done the reply he got was "no problem this is a mainly Asian area and we have been told not to ticket cars as it's not worth the hassle" just an example but shows an issue which is only applicable to one race. I think "over protection" may have been the wrong phrase to use but certainly fear of raising racial tension applies, as we all saw in Bradford it does not take much to spark a riot.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mal_howarth
Looks like you are a "majority" like the rest of us normals I live near Keighley\Bradford and thats possibly why I see the "over protection" police will move along certain groups but will avoid like the plague others now it does not matter to me if people are pink,white,black,yellow they should all be treated the same. My wife is disabled and worked for a solicitor in Keighley he asked a traffic warden if it was ok for her to park on double yellow lines while her disabled parking pass arrived and the car park was re-done the reply he got was "no problem this is a mainly Asian area and we have been told not to ticket cars as it's not worth the hassle" just an example but shows an issue which is only applicable to one race. I think "over protection" may have been the wrong phrase to use but certainly fear of raising racial tension applies, as we all saw in Bradford it does not take much to spark a riot.
That's one thing that should not be happening. Start treating groups differently and you're asking for trouble as well as sticking two finger up to everyone else. If people are infringing laws throw the book at them irrespective of colour, infact make an example of them to deter others. As they say spare the rod.....
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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
That's one thing that should not be happening. Start treating groups differently and you're asking for trouble as well as sticking two finger up to everyone else. If people are infringing laws throw the book at them irrespective of colour, infact make an example of them to deter others. As they say spare the rod.....
Yup, could not agree more. It lets those you do get away with it feel invincible and better than others who don't and/or are victims other fearful/angry - if between different ethnic backgrounds then the only ones who will benefit with be the likes of the BNP.

It is governemt who have to stop this and put thing right, if not them then another. NL has had 10 years and done nothing wexcept exaserbate the problems.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mal_howarth
Looks like you are a "majority" like the rest of us normals I live near Keighley\Bradford and thats possibly why I see the "over protection" police will move along certain groups but will avoid like the plague others now it does not matter to me if people are pink,white,black,yellow they should all be treated the same. My wife is disabled and worked for a solicitor in Keighley he asked a traffic warden if it was ok for her to park on double yellow lines while her disabled parking pass arrived and the car park was re-done the reply he got was "no problem this is a mainly Asian area and we have been told not to ticket cars as it's not worth the hassle" just an example but shows an issue which is only applicable to one race. I think "over protection" may have been the wrong phrase to use but certainly fear of raising racial tension applies, as we all saw in Bradford it does not take much to spark a riot.
That's fair enough mate but I get parking tickets and I live in West London, which could be described as an 'Asian' area, so I can't see this, sorry.

In my experience, asking these sorts of questions of people who work in the local authority usual results in the first word that comes to mind being given as an answer.

With all due respect it doesn't mean that it is true.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Your right it doesn't mean it's true but no car on that street gets a ticket


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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
That's fair enough mate but I get parking tickets and I live in West London, which could be described as an 'Asian' area, so I can't see this, sorry.

In my experience, asking these sorts of questions of people who work in the local authority usual results in the first word that comes to mind being given as an answer.

With all due respect it doesn't mean that it is true.

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West London is notorious for its parking attendants especially in southall, even if you stop on a yellow line attendents come running up to u to move ur car
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Old May 5, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony

Me, I prefer to live my life by sticking to some simple principles. If I want to call a spade a spade, or a blackboard a blackboard, I will ****ing call it that and bugger the consequences. As far as I am concerned the minority can stick their ill-advised ideals up where it dosent shine and I shall carry on regardless.

I 101% completely agree with the above , I firmly believe we should not be silenced about honest opinions , at least hes not ***** footing around and "two faced typing" wich happens so much on forums like this.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mal_howarth
Your right it doesn't mean it's true but no car on that street gets a ticket

Mal,

Sorry to appear pedantic but I need to be clear. Are you absolutely certain that 'no one' gets a parking ticket on this particular road? I am not 100% that you can be so certain.

Further, if 'no one' receives parking tickets then how is that protection for asian people please? It's not just asian people not receiving tickets is it? It's 'no one'.

And the fact that it's an 'Asian' street in Bradford does not apply does it? As all of Bradford is 'Asian' is it not?

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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by K18LLR
West London is notorious for its parking attendants especially in southall, even if you stop on a yellow line attendents come running up to u to move ur car
LB Ealing is a nightmare for parking. Deliberatly targeting motorists, by hiding behind trees and so on. One minute over and you get it. There is zero tolerance.

If I were to guess most of the victims of this legal scam run by the council are Asian.

No protection down here then, must be a Northern thing.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by abbott
I 101% completely agree with the above , I firmly believe we should not be silenced about honest opinions , at least hes not ***** footing around and "two faced typing" wich happens so much on forums like this.

I completely agree, but then I don't thnk anyone is being 'silenced' are they? But out and out racism is both against the T's & C's of SN and illegal to boot.

Are you trying to defend that?

I remember (many years ago) talking to guy I worked with (much older than me) complaining that when he was young they "...went 'Gay bashing', as there weren't many Paki's around then". Obviously inferring that they would have tried their hand at that too given the opportunity.

I am old enough to remember when that used to actually happen. Are these the 'Good old days' that people sometimes refer to, when they become dewy eyed and nostalgic? And somehow they seem to wish to return to???

"Oh, do you remember the good old days - you could say what you like, etc etc etc"? Presumably you could do what you liked too?!

Anyone is perfectly capable of putting a contentious opinion forward, without having to resort to what we saw the other day, why don't people just do that?

We had a poster on here a while ago, Gatty his name was. When he joined he got himself in trouble by posting racist material. But then once his ban was over he realised that he could state a contoversial opinion and not get into trouble, provided he just took the time to word it correctly.

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Old May 5, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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can i just ask a question or two here....

if it was a white gang, would the thread be there still ?

if you point the finger at a certain race with allegations then you are a racist or are you merely adding the sums up wrong ?

why is it (or how has it happened) that the uk has got so badly devided racially...? who or what has caused this..?

is it people seeing the "race thing" and sticking their head in the sand so as not to be labelled a racist ?

heres what i do know... i was called jock for years while in the BRITISH ARMY...did i get offended ? mate was called taff etc etc.. the old scottish/english/irish jokes are older than jesus himself for christ sake ! (pun not intended) .. also a bit off topic, if you opened a shop in poland and then put up a sign " NO POLISH" would you expect it to be ok ? well that has happened here in the uk... the uk is no longer united. thats the one answer i do know.. shame but its been let go too far.. and these criminals have taken advantage of this and their own people who have stood by and let it happen so they are partly to blame for the blame being directed at their community.... the whole idea of people dealing with their own kind that let them down isnt a bad thing.. just doesnt happen.. it used to, but sadly no more..
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
I completely agree, but then I don't thnk anyone is being 'silenced' are they? But out and out racism is both against the T's & C's of SN and illegal to boot.


Asif

sorry buddy but i think people actually are being silenced , a lot are too scared (of offending minorities) to talk out on this certain subject and are tip toeing around , then when people do approach it head on we are the one's classed as racist and its just not right .
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
So why didn'y you say that previously? Perhaps the thread would still be here and we could carry on discussing it?

You are responsible for the thread going, don't try to blame other people. Your lack of self control and refusal to engage your brain before typing was what caused it, nothing else.

Your 'racist' post in the other thread single handedly makes an open and shut case for the PC Brigade, it's what they feed off.

I'd love to know how I (a 'minority') rule the lives of the white majority in this country. Please tell me.

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You seem to have taken over where moses left off. Maybe you feel it is your position to stick up for minority. Well I wouldnt bother as there are enough of the PC brigade to do that for you every day of the week, let alone take on the role on a motoring forum.

I was pretty much pissed off when I made the first post,on the back of what had just happened to my car, but dont make the mistake of thinking that I cant post on a more even keel when I need to. As I said in this thread, I am fed up to the back teeth with the uneven balance that I am subjected to and it seems that there is a growing similar feeling in this country.
I cant change how this country is viewed or how people are treated in all walsk of life, so I lead my life as I feel I want to. I shall defend my little corner of England (not britain or any other dis-franchised name for it) as best as I can and keep a level headed outlook on how I deal with people.
That includes typing and posting exactly how I feel.
If you have a problem with that then I suggest you either put me on the block list or ignore my posts.

frankly I couldnt give toss if you think I am bigotted or small minded.

Oh and just for your information, on the thread that was deleted, you would ahve noticed that the other poster and I agreed to respect each other's point of view and there was no animosity.

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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Let's get a few facts straight Chris. I see very little that can be done in the way of silencing people. People will always say what they want to, irrespective of law, PC claptrap etc. Infact this thread is carrying on in the very same vein as the one that got deleted, people making the same comments others making veiled references. The bowing down to minorities/PC do gooders is also a little bit of a contentious issue. The majority of these directives come from WHITE middle class think tanks. No one seems to ask those directly affected what they think.
Instances like banning Christmas decorations and banning Baa Baa Black Sheep. Such measures are inconceivably stupid and I doubt any sane 'minority' would want them banned. Call me cynical but I think some of these suggestions may have an underlying motive. Get the great unwashed foaming at the mouth and it certainly seems to be working.
The BNP does make some credible and plausible suggestions and some of their policies do have a common sense approach. However the extreme element within this organisation will not see them in power for at least a generation or two. How can someone vote for a party whose deputy described Hitler as a great man, akin to big pebble amongst many small ones on a beach. One which is instantly noticeable because of it's size and prominence. You want people like this in power?
I along with many many others am fed up with a lot of the crap ensuing in society. Be it Asian people taking the p!ss, white people generalisng with their syllogistic rantings and the Government doing little to address any problems. I'm as old fashioned as the next man and will not bow down to any PC claptrap. A case in point was when our local school tried banning the three little pigs as it may offend some. Come on 'purleeze!' I told the head teacher in no uncertain terms the consequence of such stupid actions. Suffice to say the storybooks are still in the school
Ultimately we all live under the same sky and breathe the same air. All races have their crosses to bear and we all have our prejudices. Call it instinct call it tribalism it comes to the fore quite easily. Our efforts must be directed in the right direction not at each other.
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You and I know exactly what the issue is here
You write a lot of sense
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Go on, I'll say it for the crack seeing as I work closely with lots of darker skinned lads than I and really don't care if you ban me for it. The Asian persuasion boys, Pakisatani, Indian or Bngladeshi all have a few mates who are taking the ****. Crash=claim. Fairy Muff, said it. So what? Yes, they really are all at it.

Go on, ban me, does it change the truth?
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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You and I know exactly what the issue is here
You write a lot of sense
It is completely fair and true to say that there are problems with a section of the Pakistani community in and around Bradford. I live nearby and am quite qualified to comment. The image portrayed by these somewhat less than desirable feejits is detrimental to the whole community. It is also a valid and fair comment to suggest that the community should actively seek out to do something about it. Rabskyline makes a good point. Infact this is exactly what used to happen within Asian communities, elders were respected and listened to. Not so nowadays, all one can hope for is that their family members are on the straight and narrow.
Some of the blame lies with the elder generation who instead of watching what their kids were up to, were spending all hours working. This went on for years and kids were growing up without guidance, advice and direction. Sure the father was providing financially but there was nothing else. This is why you now have young lads who instead wanting to go to College and Universities are 'wannabe gangstas'.
Sorry for ranting but this is my personal observation and I doubt many Pakistanis would disagree. Sure there are exceptions but many parents are lamenting the paths their children have taken.
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To be honest, I think the same can be said for the 'white' community. Possibly slightly different issues, but the point remains the same. It is as much, to me, to do with society as a whole, and a shift in values, as discussing one particular section.
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Old May 5, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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To be honest, I think the same can be said for the 'white' community. Possibly slightly different issues, but the point remains the same. It is as much, to me, to do with society as a whole, and a shift in values, as discussing one particular section.
very different issues you may find !
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
It is completely fair and true to say that there are problems with a section of the Pakistani community in and around Bradford. I live nearby and am quite qualified to comment. The image portrayed by these somewhat less than desirable feejits is detrimental to the whole community. It is also a valid and fair comment to suggest that the community should actively seek out to do something about it. Rabskyline makes a good point. Infact this is exactly what used to happen within Asian communities, elders were respected and listened to. Not so nowadays, all one can hope for is that their family members are on the straight and narrow.
Some of the blame lies with the elder generation who instead of watching what their kids were up to, were spending all hours working. This went on for years and kids were growing up without guidance, advice and direction. Sure the father was providing financially but there was nothing else. This is why you now have young lads who instead wanting to go to College and Universities are 'wannabe gangstas'.
Sorry for ranting but this is my personal observation and I doubt many Pakistanis would disagree. Sure there are exceptions but many parents are lamenting the paths their children have taken.

I would agree with alot of what you say Einstein old chap. I think it is true of a lot of other communities, both parents working long hours, etc and the effects it can have on families/communities and i think we are all suffering because of it.
I think kids can see how others get away and can get on by taking the easy and often not legit or honourable path and decide why not!

I think a lot of this could have been prevented by liberals and pc fools keeping out and letting parents, schools, police., courts etc discipline their kids and set boudaries for them so they knew if they transgrseed they got punished and shamed.
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
To be honest, I think the same can be said for the 'white' community. Possibly slightly different issues, but the point remains the same. It is as much, to me, to do with society as a whole, and a shift in values, as discussing one particular section.
I think we've all got our crosses to bear Lisa. Some of the youth of today are taking a very wayward path.
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I would agree with alot of what you say Einstein old chap. I think it is true of a lot of other communities, both parents working long hours, etc and the effects it can have on families/communities and i think we are all suffering because of it.
I think kids can see how others get away and can get on by taking the easy and often not legit or honourable path and decide why not!

I think a lot of this could have been prevented by liberals and pc fools keeping out and letting parents, schools, police., courts etc discipline their kids and set boudaries for them so they knew if they transgrseed they got punished and shamed.
You know Paul, the irony is the parents were doing it to provide a better life for the kids. It's a shame the kids don't appreciate the sacrifices made for them and the opportunities they're given. I agree discipline has waned over years and certainly some of the liberal policies have done more harm than good.
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
can i just ask a question or two here....

if it was a white gang, would the thread be there still ?

if you point the finger at a certain race with allegations then you are a racist or are you merely adding the sums up wrong ?

why is it (or how has it happened) that the uk has got so badly devided racially...? who or what has caused this..?

is it people seeing the "race thing" and sticking their head in the sand so as not to be labelled a racist ?

heres what i do know... i was called jock for years while in the BRITISH ARMY...did i get offended ? mate was called taff etc etc.. the old scottish/english/irish jokes are older than jesus himself for christ sake ! (pun not intended) .. also a bit off topic, if you opened a shop in poland and then put up a sign " NO POLISH" would you expect it to be ok ? well that has happened here in the uk... the uk is no longer united. thats the one answer i do know.. shame but its been let go too far.. and these criminals have taken advantage of this and their own people who have stood by and let it happen so they are partly to blame for the blame being directed at their community.... the whole idea of people dealing with their own kind that let them down isnt a bad thing.. just doesnt happen.. it used to, but sadly no more..
Appreciate what you are saying here Rab, but there was no joking going on.
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Originally Posted by abbott
sorry buddy but i think people actually are being silenced , a lot are too scared (of offending minorities) to talk out on this certain subject and are tip toeing around , then when people do approach it head on we are the one's classed as racist and its just not right .
I'm sorry too, but I don't see anyone being silenced here. People are being clear in what they think - you are for instance.

Please can you point out where the tip toeing is?

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Originally Posted by SwissTony
You seem to have taken over where moses left off. Maybe you feel it is your position to stick up for minority. Well I wouldnt bother as there are enough of the PC brigade to do that for you every day of the week, let alone take on the role on a motoring forum.

I was pretty much pissed off when I made the first post,on the back of what had just happened to my car, but dont make the mistake of thinking that I cant post on a more even keel when I need to. As I said in this thread, I am fed up to the back teeth with the uneven balance that I am subjected to and it seems that there is a growing similar feeling in this country.
I cant change how this country is viewed or how people are treated in all walsk of life, so I lead my life as I feel I want to. I shall defend my little corner of England (not britain or any other dis-franchised name for it) as best as I can and keep a level headed outlook on how I deal with people.
That includes typing and posting exactly how I feel.
If you have a problem with that then I suggest you either put me on the block list or ignore my posts.

frankly I couldnt give toss if you think I am bigotted or small minded.

Oh and just for your information, on the thread that was deleted, you would ahve noticed that the other poster and I agreed to respect each other's point of view and there was no animosity.

Carry on
Swiss,

You don't appear to have read what I typed and what has Moses got to do with this anyway? I only speak for myself thank you and I am fed up to the back teeth also.

I am fed up of being slagged off because of some sh!thouse in another part of the country, or sometimes another part of the World does something wrong and everyone wants to say that because I share the same skin colour with whoever, I am somehow guilty by association, or I am like that too, or I know who it is but choose to not tell the Police about it.

Would you be happy with that? For your information I have been quite consistent in my point of view on this subject for the whole of the six years plus I have been on SN (and a few years before that), not a cause I decided to take up yesterday.

I never made any judgements about you did I? I merely stated that your post was unnacceptable. Whether you or the other guy sorted it out is not my concern. I had a problem with it and made my point on that thread.

I don't know what happened to your car, but as I said in another post a white guy deliberately drove into my car a few weeks ago, just because I was passing him. He is denying it to his insurance company. So, without knowing the detail of what happened to you, we may actually be in a similar situation.

How far do you think I would get if I posted on here about it in a racist manner?

I have no problem whatsoever about what you think, what you type, or what your views are. You know very well what can and what cannot be posted on SN.

I feel we have both made our views clear. I hope that is ok with you.

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Asif,

Most people, be they black/white/asian or purple, want to move on. No one care's anymore about what happened years ago. Some, maybe all, white people were racist and treated minorities wrongly. That's been addressed now and has been for a very long time.

It's time the chip is dropped, like it was, and get on with getting on with each other.


Scammers exist in all races, some draw attention to themselves by playing the race card when caught. While that's allowed to go on, there's going to be problems obviously.

Hopefully when Labour get jogged on the 'white benefit crap' lot will be made to work and show some respect.

No one here's out after one particular race, just the **** takers.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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LB Ealing is a nightmare for parking. Deliberatly targeting motorists, by hiding behind trees and so on. One minute over and you get it. There is zero tolerance.

If I were to guess most of the victims of this legal scam run by the council are Asian.

No protection down here then, must be a Northern thing.

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Asif,
I am no racist and treat everyone the same (if possible) I have Asian friends and go to BBQ's in the summer etc and observe traditions which means I will do my share and go to an Halal butchers so I can join in and pay my way I have read all your posts and agree with some disagree with others as it is with all the posts in this debate one mentions "chips on shoulders" reading your posts pretty much puts you in that category. The comment you made about it being a "Northern Thing" is offensive to me and pretty much in my eyes "racist" you are free to say what you think and I will not be complaining about the remark it's your opinion and freedom of speech should allow you to state what you think with no fear of reprisal.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Swiss,

You don't appear to have read what I typed and what has Moses got to do with this anyway? I only speak for myself thank you and I am fed up to the back teeth also.

I am fed up of being slagged off because of some sh!thouse in another part of the country, or sometimes another part of the World does something wrong and everyone wants to say that because I share the same skin colour with whoever, I am somehow guilty by association, or I am like that too, or I know who it is but choose to not tell the Police about it.

Would you be happy with that? For your information I have been quite consistent in my point of view on this subject for the whole of the six years plus I have been on SN (and a few years before that), not a cause I decided to take up yesterday.

I never made any judgements about you did I? I merely stated that your post was unnacceptable. Whether you or the other guy sorted it out is not my concern. I had a problem with it and made my point on that thread.

I don't know what happened to your car, but as I said in another post a white guy deliberately drove into my car a few weeks ago, just because I was passing him. He is denying it to his insurance company. So, without knowing the detail of what happened to you, we may actually be in a similar situation.

How far do you think I would get if I posted on here about it in a racist manner?

I have no problem whatsoever about what you think, what you type, or what your views are. You know very well what can and what cannot be posted on SN.

I feel we have both made our views clear. I hope that is ok with you.

Asif
I did read what you posted, how could I have responded in kind without doing so

Your main problem is ' detriment by association' whereby you dislike being lumped into the barrel of rotten apples just because of your skin colour.
Well I dont see the French getting all upset and starting riots just because we say they smell

But anyway I digress. The issue you had with me was my post. Fair enough, thats your right. But I also have the right to make comments on here which may be close to the bone or slightly contentious..its just how I see it.
If they get deleted or removed, so be it. If I got an infraction for it, so be it.
You seem to jump into every race related thread, whether you have a relevant point on the issue in hand or could offer some first hand advice. Instead you seem to almost relish the interaction.

How far do you think I would get if I posted on here about it in a racist manner?
About as far as I would...whats your point ?

I have no problem whatsoever about what you think, what you type, or what your views are. You know very well what can and what cannot be posted on SN.
I certainly do and will continue to post in whichever way I feel fit. I am sure you will do to
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Old May 6, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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it seem very much double standards as to who can say what!?

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Old May 6, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Odds on
Asif,

Most people, be they black/white/asian or purple, want to move on. No one care's anymore about what happened years ago. Some, maybe all, white people were racist and treated minorities wrongly. That's been addressed now and has been for a very long time.

It's time the chip is dropped, like it was, and get on with getting on with each other.


Scammers exist in all races, some draw attention to themselves by playing the race card when caught. While that's allowed to go on, there's going to be problems obviously.

Hopefully when Labour get jogged on the 'white benefit crap' lot will be made to work and show some respect.

No one here's out after one particular race, just the **** takers.
Odds On,

I completely agree with what you say. There is no chip here thank you. You will find that my many English friends would testify to that.

This whole debate is about a very specific issue, that has been dealt with to be honest.

Thanks

Asif
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