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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Td05's are renowned for being as tough as old boots.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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happy days, dont think ill have anything to worry about with this one then

read a lot of posts now that the old vf22 does give problems and cant really take any abuse. If it could it would be one hell of a turbo
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Nick
I spoke to my AndyF about this and the VF banjo is fine to retain so I have.

Thinking about it afterwards, I'm guessing the newage STi has a small diameter hole in the banjo, could be to keep oil pressure to the AVCS, no 100% though.

What year UK turbo do you have?

For 360hp, an 18G would be better, with mine, I'm getting 1bar at 2800rpm,

Heres an over lay of my previous VF35 and my current AFP5/6 20G both mapped by Andy Forrest.



As you can see, there not a lot of difference in power or torque apart from the 20g just keeps on going.

The car is an STi 7 Type UK.
Hey mate,

Is that with std pump fuel? Or are you adding OB or funny juce

I thought the 20G was more of a 380bhp turbo, so your output is excellent! The difference in response between the 35 and the 20G looks minimal in that graph and I would suspect it would normally be significantly wider, even with someone of Andy's mapping skills!

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Recently, there has been a lot of debate over the 'good ol 20g' turbo, but it does seem to be a solid quick 1.7 bar/380 ish turbo that drops straight into place and readily mapped to give boost a long way up the rev range.
It's cheap too as a bonus compared to the fab 321 series @ £1200.

I have driven my 20g hillclimb race/road car to death for 4 years on a stock low miles Sti V3 long block with one oil change each year (Shell Helix) and it is just great. 380 bhp is a very nice power for the chassis on most roads/conditions, very useable and very tractable.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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when is the turbo running full boost?

the vf22 would be on full, after its map, at about 3500, would the 20g be similar or a bit more laggy?
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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20G is more responsive than a VF22 in my experience.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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this is all great news, thanks for all the help and info.
andy have u any advice for the mapper to get the best out of it and avoid surge (whatever that is)
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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i do...get andy to do it himself lol, check with scubbay i think there is still places for april
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Nick
I spoke to my AndyF about this and the VF banjo is fine to retain so I have.

Thinking about it afterwards, I'm guessing the newage STi has a small diameter hole in the banjo, could be to keep oil pressure to the AVCS, no 100% though.

What year UK turbo do you have?

For 360hp, an 18G would be better, with mine, I'm getting 1bar at 2800rpm,

Heres an over lay of my previous VF35 and my current AFP5/6 20G both mapped by Andy Forrest.



As you can see, there not a lot of difference in power or torque apart from the 20g just keeps on going.

The car is an STi 7 Type UK.
Whats your full spec Nick????
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Is it me not being in the right frame of mind?

but I think theres ALOT between the RED and the GREEN graph.....

They are only similar with the engine switched off !!
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burt its already booked into ai just lookin some tips from the main man
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DANNYBOY2511
cant fault the 20g on mine. 362 bhp at 1.55 bar at the mo
Don't forget to mention the torque

Don't forget that old gold forester is snapping at your heels matey
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Hey mate,

Is that with std pump fuel? Or are you adding OB or funny juce

I thought the 20G was more of a 380bhp turbo, so your output is excellent! The difference in response between the 35 and the 20G looks minimal in that graph and I would suspect it would normally be significantly wider, even with someone of Andy's mapping skills!

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Its got a walbro fuel pump and a cocktail of chemicals and alcohol in the tank

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Whats your full spec Nick????
Walbro Fuel Pump
Aeromotive AFPR
Prodrive 3 Port Boost Solenoid
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Automatic Water Spray for
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Oil Catch Can with PCV Delete
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I'm running V-Power/10% Meth /0.2%NF in the tank.

Stir it all up and it work well
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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I had another Sti8 in today Nick with almost identical spec and fuel to you, the only difference was it was running an Sti TMIC instead of the WRC TMIC and it had an AVCR, it made 405bhp so it seems like that intercooler of yours was a good investment
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Leg@cy
Is it me not being in the right frame of mind?

but I think theres ALOT between the RED and the GREEN graph.....

They are only similar with the engine switched off !!
Looking at the initial part of the graph, but lines are close together showing the even though the the 20G is a bigger turbo (slower spool), its makes the same power as a smaller turbo (faster spool), that what I mean by not much difference, once the 20G comes alive, it just walks away.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
I had another Sti8 in today Nick with almost identical spec and fuel to you, the only difference was it was running an Sti TMIC instead of the WRC TMIC and it had an AVCR, it made 405bhp so it seems like that intercooler of yours was a good investment


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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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lol , he gets around a bit that boy....
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Howdo Steve,

The TMIC did good didn't it
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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glad it working all ok.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Heres the graph from my 20g with similar spec.
I see your power just keeps climbing, nice

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11...uartbarnes.jpg
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it is all in the secret design intercooler LOL
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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im loving this power you guys are putting out.

im running a fmic though lol
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by andypugh2000
Don't forget to mention the torque

Don't forget that old gold forester is snapping at your heels matey
362/312 well spotted.

i'll take we'll be seeing you snapping at my wheels this year at the pod then????
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Originally Posted by Northern Nick
Looking at the initial part of the graph, but lines are close together showing the even though the the 20G is a bigger turbo (slower spool), its makes the same power as a smaller turbo (faster spool), that what I mean by not much difference, once the 20G comes alive, it just walks away.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Barnesy
Heres the graph from my 20g with similar spec.
I see your power just keeps climbing, nice

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11...uartbarnes.jpg
is that on pump fuel ?
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Originally Posted by 911
Recently, there has been a lot of debate over the 'good ol 20g' turbo, but it does seem to be a solid quick 1.7 bar/380 ish turbo that drops straight into place and readily mapped to give boost a long way up the rev range.
It's cheap too as a bonus compared to the fab 321 series @ £1200.

I have driven my 20g hillclimb race/road car to death for 4 years on a stock low miles Sti V3 long block with one oil change each year (Shell Helix) and it is just great. 380 bhp is a very nice power for the chassis on most roads/conditions, very useable and very tractable.

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911 just watchin the videos of your impreza *** me that thing can shift ..seems to boost really early also...u sure its a 20g

what is the spec could be the way for me for the road
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Leg@cy
is that on pump fuel ?
V-Power with a splash of octane booster.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DANNYBOY2511
362/312 well spotted.

i'll take we'll be seeing you snapping at my wheels this year at the pod then????
Don't drag my car, only a caravan
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Originally Posted by iamrab
911 just watchin the videos of your impreza *** me that thing can shift ..seems to boost really early also...u sure its a 20g

what is the spec could be the way for me for the road

awesome performance on the road. car looks sharp as a razor

cant wait to get mine on and mapped then ill take u a run rab mate
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