wasnt stating i wasnt happy im not in a misery , just stating the point that if i was threatened in front of my nippers by some chavvy bawsack , then i would defintiely be making sure the said person was not in perfect condition after , and that the UK prison system is just a big bloody holiday these days anyway .

 

so in THIS case where the threat was OVER would you have pursued the thug and attempted to cause sufficient injury to him knowing that it would likely mean being sent away from your kids to live in prison?

 

Signed

 

no i would have got him properly the 1st time ..........

 

I have signed it.

A family man is pushed into a rage after he is attacked while he is with his children, and after accumulative provocation.
You don't always think rationally in these situations, something flips.

I am not saying he should get a medal, but should not be punished to the extent of jail.

 

Really?.... so it's alright to 'flip out' and kill somebody then.... where would you draw the line though?

TBH his actions are as bad as the perpetrator.... if I was in the same situation I'd have put all effort into putting as much distance as possible between this ****** and my family... not driving at/over him!

You can't kill people who threaten you/provoke you.... **** me, if that was the case Easy Jet check-in at Luton would resemble a scene from Rambo IV, there'd be blood and body parts EVERYWHERE.... and just imagine what the local dole office would look like.....

He's acted like an idiot..... and as before, it does mean one less ****** walking the streets.... but he committed murder and for that he needs to do time!....

 

Just out of interest, where do you get the idea he was with his children when he was attacked?

 

Have people read the actual story and not the fictional petition

Reading some peoples responses on here I would guess no....

 

From reading the story on the petition page it suggests that he was defending himself against an armed thug. The "Lost control" bit did sound suspect but reasonable to accept.

However, it would appear from other recounts of the incident this wasn't the case.

 

Well that was my whole reason for not signing it - The petition page basically presents and entirely false account in order to get you to sign it.

I do this with every petition I am asked to sign - If I am going to sign my name to something, it generally means something - I don't sign contracts etc without looking into them, I do the same with petitions.

 

i'm not signing, and shall explain y.

first off, how many people signing the petition actually know what was said in court, the true events (and im not talking about media hype, lies or inccorrect information).

i bet 99% don't know, so how can they have a say?

If, and i empahsis IF, he did it in selfdefence then fair point he should be allowed out, no time served.

however, reports i've seen say he happen to swerve into a bush the guy was hiding in, some time after the even.

that isn't self defence, that's revenge, and that's crossed the line.


thast y i wont sign it, if you don't know the facts behind it then you shouldn't judge

 

Then why not have the real story on the petition and let people make their minds up that way..??

 

the truth is in the eye of the beholder, you can have ten different versions of an incident from witness, even being honest, people just see things in different ways.


while i agree the crackhead got what he deserved, its doesn't justify taking the law, no mater how inadequate, into your own hands.

 

My take; a person has been killed by another person. The police have gathered the evidence pertaining to the case and are submitting it to the CPS who will decide if it is in the public interest to persue the case or not. Just as it should be, what's the problem?

 

"What happened" is the official verdict from the court, by any meaningful measure anyway.

In this respect the media are far, far closer to the "truth" than that petition.

 

if, and i emphasis IF, the events are as stated in the newspaper reoprt above, about his own knife turning against him are true then guy should not have any charges made against him. But thats as said, if, the facts are as they're stated

 

I think the problem is the public has little faith in the clown prosecution service.

 

I expect if the petition was a little closer to the truth it wouldn't get much support.

Agree 100%

 

That's as maybe, but if people start circumventing the law and taking matters in to their own hands we start the descent in to anarchy.

 

Absolutely agree.

 

But the thug isn't dead.

Still not dead.

Your take is wrong.

Which paper? The thug was run down by a vehicle.

But the BBC doesn't help It seems impossible to find the facts

 

there was another link about a stabbing

 

What concerns me, is while everyone is fighting over the rights and wrongs of this blokes actions, what really is the point in signing this petition anyway?

Now I don't know how it all works with regards to petitions being looked at and reviewed, but I would imagine, given that it has a false account of the events in this case, it will probably be dismissed on that basis. The chances are that whoever will look into it, will argue, that so much support may not have been given to him if the real facts had been presented, rather than account which could be argued, paints him in a better light.

It's a shame as I feel those who have drawn it up to offer their support, are most likely just wasting their time.

 

Really, so the dead guy isn't actually dead?

I'm guessing you didn't actually read my post as it relates to another incident posted by somebody else.

 

Add to all that the guy pleaded guilty, it's not like he's trying to claim he's innocent of trying kill the thug.

 

Is he dead yet .........

 

I think he may have done had it not been made clear to him that he was likely to get a stiffer sentence had he pleaded not guilty. The judge said in her summing up that his sentence would have been longer but for his guilty plea, I suspect this plea was on direct advice from counsel.

 

The thing is more and more people are going to retaliate and take out their own justice on thugs/rapists/thieves scum of the earth etc etc ,if the judges dont start handing out proper sentences .

 

hush your mouth your boring zzZZZ.