Nissan GT-R - Considering the restrictions they are imposing, would you buy ?
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It would bother me. Imagine how annoyed you would be if you find that some limiter cuts in when you are having fun on the German Autobahn, or even worse if you were at a track the car does not recognise as a track.
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So the question there is: how does the OEM ECU react when the GPS system tells it that it's outside Japan?
If Nissan really wanted to protect their domestic interests, they'd have it go into 'limp mode' as soon as it leaves Japanese soil. That would indeed be cause for complaint. So would anything that causes the limiter to switch back on if you're at a track that's supposed to be derestricted, but I'm sure they've thought of that given the horrendous legal liability they'd have in the event of an accident.
The 112mph limiter is usually the first thing to go just after the SVA process anyway, so I wouldn't be too worried though - unless Nissan have achieved what Microsoft, the mobile networks, Nintendo, Sony, the DVD standards body, Apple and countless others have failed to do.
If Nissan really wanted to protect their domestic interests, they'd have it go into 'limp mode' as soon as it leaves Japanese soil. That would indeed be cause for complaint. So would anything that causes the limiter to switch back on if you're at a track that's supposed to be derestricted, but I'm sure they've thought of that given the horrendous legal liability they'd have in the event of an accident.
The 112mph limiter is usually the first thing to go just after the SVA process anyway, so I wouldn't be too worried though - unless Nissan have achieved what Microsoft, the mobile networks, Nintendo, Sony, the DVD standards body, Apple and countless others have failed to do.
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What's the score with this, then? What's it limited to? Give it a couple of months and this'll be sorted I would have thought.
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the ECU is a JDM one, so its programmed to have the limiter in place, this is the first jap car to officially break the 280bhp gentlemans agreement ( and by some margin ) so they have to put preventative measures in place to protect the consumers and so the Gov won't kick up a huge fuss. Therefore it is limited on the street but when it gets to a domestic track the ECU picks up the GPS co-ordinates and you can then remove the limiter through the computer.
With UK models i would suspect they may limit the GTR to 155mph, but if they are going up against the Porsche then i wouldn't expect any limiter on the ECU. Certainly the Spec V model won't have any limiter imposed on it.
Mines already have produced an aftermarket ECU for the GTR that accompanies their Exhaust system that removes the limiter but it is not yet available to the public.
I'm off to Geneva for the VIP launch, already got a deposit down with Middlehurst for the Spec V and in accordance with Andy over there i'm in position number one for the top spec model. I'll keep you updated with any news that i'm fed and naturally snap some shots at the show
With UK models i would suspect they may limit the GTR to 155mph, but if they are going up against the Porsche then i wouldn't expect any limiter on the ECU. Certainly the Spec V model won't have any limiter imposed on it.
Mines already have produced an aftermarket ECU for the GTR that accompanies their Exhaust system that removes the limiter but it is not yet available to the public.
I'm off to Geneva for the VIP launch, already got a deposit down with Middlehurst for the Spec V and in accordance with Andy over there i'm in position number one for the top spec model. I'll keep you updated with any news that i'm fed and naturally snap some shots at the show
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Yep,
Its looking like the 470bhp fugure is what its making at the wheels, so its more like 520-530 at the fly. Mines have an exhaust (still leaves the OEM cat in) and remap that makes about 520-530 at the wheels available for £2.5k in japan. Its also been noted with the white one in the UK that the oem map was recorded as running very rich when it was dyno'd. I think its probably the case that Nissan have gone for a reasonably conservative tune on the first batch to ensure they dont break down, and also so they can release higher powered versions in the coming years to maintain the interest in new cars. Wouldn't suprise me to see these making 600-700bhp at the fly once the cat is out and people start experimenting with upping the boost.
Theres now a 6 month waiting list in japan for these, and there are stories of people paying jpy1.5 million just for a delivery slot prior to May.
With regards to the speed limiter, the Mines remap removes it, and theres pleanty more people working in the UK on fixes for this too. On the GTROC forums it seems like a compnany in the UK will be mapping them theirselves before too long.
Its looking like the 470bhp fugure is what its making at the wheels, so its more like 520-530 at the fly. Mines have an exhaust (still leaves the OEM cat in) and remap that makes about 520-530 at the wheels available for £2.5k in japan. Its also been noted with the white one in the UK that the oem map was recorded as running very rich when it was dyno'd. I think its probably the case that Nissan have gone for a reasonably conservative tune on the first batch to ensure they dont break down, and also so they can release higher powered versions in the coming years to maintain the interest in new cars. Wouldn't suprise me to see these making 600-700bhp at the fly once the cat is out and people start experimenting with upping the boost.
Theres now a 6 month waiting list in japan for these, and there are stories of people paying jpy1.5 million just for a delivery slot prior to May.
With regards to the speed limiter, the Mines remap removes it, and theres pleanty more people working in the UK on fixes for this too. On the GTROC forums it seems like a compnany in the UK will be mapping them theirselves before too long.
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So the question there is: how does the OEM ECU react when the GPS system tells it that it's outside Japan?
If Nissan really wanted to protect their domestic interests, they'd have it go into 'limp mode' as soon as it leaves Japanese soil. That would indeed be cause for complaint. So would anything that causes the limiter to switch back on if you're at a track that's supposed to be derestricted, but I'm sure they've thought of that given the horrendous legal liability they'd have in the event of an accident.
The 112mph limiter is usually the first thing to go just after the SVA process anyway, so I wouldn't be too worried though - unless Nissan have achieved what Microsoft, the mobile networks, Nintendo, Sony, the DVD standards body, Apple and countless others have failed to do.
If Nissan really wanted to protect their domestic interests, they'd have it go into 'limp mode' as soon as it leaves Japanese soil. That would indeed be cause for complaint. So would anything that causes the limiter to switch back on if you're at a track that's supposed to be derestricted, but I'm sure they've thought of that given the horrendous legal liability they'd have in the event of an accident.
The 112mph limiter is usually the first thing to go just after the SVA process anyway, so I wouldn't be too worried though - unless Nissan have achieved what Microsoft, the mobile networks, Nintendo, Sony, the DVD standards body, Apple and countless others have failed to do.
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