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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by filfy
Well Asda shafted me two years ago, i was directed to park in a diasbled bay by an Asda employee a few days before Christmas because there was no other available bays.
This was fine and acceptable for them until a few days after Christmas i went back to Asda and again the car park was full so i parked in another disabled bay even though there was no employees telling people where to park.
I came out with my shopping to find i had a yellow sticky fine on my windscreen. I tried to dispute this with the ticket office and got a snotty reply back basically saying tough **** pay up.
I have never done it since but why they feel the need to have more disabled bays than disabled customers really p1sses me off
I agree! It seems half of the car parks at these places are reserved for disabled people and they are always empty. And most of the time they are the only spaces available as the car park is always full.
And the parent and child spaces do discriminate against us single people!
They cant enforce these tickets nor are they legal. If they gave me a ticket, I would be right back to the store with my shopping, ask to speak to the manager, rip up the ticket and demand a refund for the shopping and tell him your taking your business else where!

P.S. I only ever park in the disabled/parent & child spaces IF there are no other spaces AND there are lots of spare disabled/parent & child spaces. They have just built a new Tesco's up by me and I'm not lying in saying that half the car park is for disabled/parent & child. The disabled spaces are always empty bar usually for 2 or 3 spaces.

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Plan is to ignore it initially & see what happens

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I'd expect a letter that's almost legally worded. Then when you ignore that, another one.

After that, not a lot.

Don't enter into an argument with them. It could possibly give them ammo.

Their chancing it, so don't indulge them.

PS, park between the lines to save all the grief.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Les, not meaning to sound harsh but in the eyes of lots of disabled individuals you're not in the slightest "seriously disabled" from what I gather to be your case. You can walk and drive so you come way down the seriously disabled league table.

Yes your particular disability might be a right pain and inconvenience to you but whilst people self rank their disability then the genuine severly disabled get tarred with the same brush as either having a chip on their shoulders or being accused of thinking they are entitled to own a parking space without question.

A lot of disabled people (self cert) do nothing but harm for the genuine disabled, as I'm sure you'll agree.
You are being unfair in your assessment of my disability especially since we have never met. I am unable to walk far even with a crutch without significant pain since the muscles I need for standing or walking were permanently and incurably damaged. I am eligible for the top rate of mobility which I know you will understand. The fact that I can drive with no problems is purely because those particular muscles are not required for that particular activity. I am sure you will realise that even the pain killers are not the answer to those problems which come with walking etc., especially with the shopping to carry!

For those reasons, I consider that if a parking space has been allocated to the disabled then I have a greater right to use it rather than an able bodied person. Those spaces are surely there for those who are less able to walk a significant distance than others for one reason or another.

Those who use them when they are not entitled are behaving in a very selfish manner whatever the circumstances.

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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
You are being unfair in your assessment of my disability especially since we have never met. I am unable to walk far even with a crutch without significant pain since the muscles I need for standing or walking were permanently and incurably damaged. I am eligible for the top rate of mobility which I know you will understand. The fact that I can drive with no problems is purely because those particular muscles are not required for that particular activity. I am sure you will realise that even the pain killers are not the answer to those problems which come with walking etc., especially with the shopping to carry!

For those reasons, I consider that if a parking space has been allocated to the disabled then I have a greater right to use it rather than an able bodied person. Those spaces are surely there for those who are less able to walk a significant distance than others for one reason or another.

Those who use them when they are not entitled are behaving in a very selfish manner whatever the circumstances.

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Les, I'm not being unfair at all. I'm a realist. I never doubted your disability just your own assessment of its severity.

I'm guessing you wouldn't necessarily need your car door to be completely fully open to exit, or that the space was on flat ground or even wide enough to accommodate a car and say a wheelchair next to it without a kerb being in the way, so, as long as the parking space is near the store you could still use it. Those disabled drivers/passengers that are full-time wheelchair users don't have that option. That was my reckoning behind my thinking of severity.

Of course you require the help of a disabled parking space more than an able bodied person but that wasn't in question.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
You are being unfair in your assessment of my disability especially since we have never met. I am unable to walk far even with a crutch without significant pain since the muscles I need for standing or walking were permanently and incurably damaged. I am eligible for the top rate of mobility which I know you will understand. The fact that I can drive with no problems is purely because those particular muscles are not required for that particular activity. I am sure you will realise that even the pain killers are not the answer to those problems which come with walking etc., especially with the shopping to carry!

For those reasons, I consider that if a parking space has been allocated to the disabled then I have a greater right to use it rather than an able bodied person. Those spaces are surely there for those who are less able to walk a significant distance than others for one reason or another.

Those who use them when they are not entitled are behaving in a very selfish manner whatever the circumstances.

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Rather pathetic that you have to justify a little bit of helpful privlidge Les.

I really dont get why there are so many able bodied, childless, young noses out of joint. Perish the thought that they'll get old and have kids! Maybe then a bit of perspective will creep in and maybe they will understand that 'every little helps' (lol) - so the sooner they get over such a massive inconvenience the better.

Bet these are the same people that go all green eyed when they see someone sail past the queues and check in business class and would never give their seat up for a pregnant woman on a bus/train Thy have just as much human rights as a woman who once had sex after all!!!!

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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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I really dont get why there are so many able bodied, childless, young noses out of joint.
I'm able bodied, childless.. and I'd like to think still young. We all know that age has no relevance to someone being disabled or not; although it seems many 'old' people think so given the amount of scowling looks I get when I park the Impreza in a disabled bay when my mother is with me. The fact the cards go up seems to be an irrelevance to them over the fact that I'm not an OAP driving a Vauxhall Agila... my mother has apparently had the same looks when parking up her Saxo VTR! Although I must say, when I park next to a Lotus Elan, or a 4x4 which requires the sort of effort to climb into as an ascent on everest thats in a disabled slot, I do start thinking that someone is taking the ****!

In all seriousness, the thing that annoys me most about "mother & baby" spaces is that quite often they're closer to the store entrance than the disabled slots are. While I can understand why people with kids have larger parking spaces (more than anything it keeps them the hell away from my car!), I really don't see why they should be so close to the store.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Disgraceful! Park in a proper space at the back you lazy b*stard! As for there being no other spaces ... cobblers. The car parks at these places could land a jumbo no problem.

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They cant enforce these tickets nor are they legal. If they gave me a ticket, I would be right back to the store with my shopping, ask to speak to the manager, rip up the ticket and demand a refund for the shopping and tell him your taking your business else where!

P.S. I only ever park in the disabled/parent & child spaces IF there are no other spaces AND there are lots of spare disabled/parent & child spaces. They have just built a new Tesco's up by me and I'm not lying in saying that half the car park is for disabled/parent & child. The disabled spaces are always empty bar usually for 2 or 3 spaces.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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You should see the looks I get from people when I park in a mothers and baby spot at the local supermarket. For some reason people don't expect to see a car like mine with 2 baby seats in the back!

These spots seem to be very rare at our local sainsburys, but the disabled spots always seem to be well underused

It's no joke I can tell you taking 2 babies (1 month old and 11 months old) out of a car and into a trolley without extending the doors fully. Perhaps some people on here with their quite ignorant and selfish comments would like to try it one day.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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1 and 11 months!

Flipping heck..."you're 6 weeks recovery is up love"
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
I While I can understand why people with kids have larger parking spaces (more than anything it keeps them the hell away from my car!), I really don't see why they should be so close to the store.
But is it REALLY worth getting so wound up about...really? It seems rather a trivial thing to get so many so hot under the collar about to me.

There are MUCH worse things that happen in the big land of parking; I just got stiffed £50 for the sake of a few seconds too long taken to find a parking voucher - that hurts far more than a few yards extra walk I can promise you!

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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Disgraceful! Park in a proper space at the back you lazy b*stard! As for there being no other spaces ... cobblers. The car parks at these places could land a jumbo no problem.

TX.
To be honest I would rather park at the back of a car park so nobody dings my doors etc. But when there are NO other spaces, I have no other option. Some of the disabled spaces are miles from the store anyway. I dont make a habit of parking in them, I only use Disabled/Parent & Child spaces if I have no other option and that there are PLENTY of other Disabled/Parent & Child spaces free. And even then I use a space that is furthest from the store.

They just seem to put a disproportionate amount of disabled spaces in new supermarkets these days compared to the amount of people that are actually disabled.

Having HALF a car park that is for Disabled/Parent & Child takes the p*ss abit! And that is no word of a lie with the new Tesco they have built by me. Everybody round here complains about it.

The new Tesco they have built in my home town is more sensible in having an appropriate amount of Disabled/Parent & Child spaces and plenty of normal spaces.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
You should see the looks I get from people when I park in a mothers and baby spot at the local supermarket. For some reason people don't expect to see a car like mine with 2 baby seats in the back!

These spots seem to be very rare at our local sainsburys, but the disabled spots always seem to be well underused

It's no joke I can tell you taking 2 babies (1 month old and 11 months old) out of a car and into a trolley without extending the doors fully. Perhaps some people on here with their quite ignorant and selfish comments would like to try it one day.
I fully agree with you.

But more importantly, how the hell did you get to stick the Mrs one that quickly?

Blood sports your game?
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Les, I'm not being unfair at all. I'm a realist. I never doubted your disability just your own assessment of its severity.

I'm guessing you wouldn't necessarily need your car door to be completely fully open to exit, or that the space was on flat ground or even wide enough to accommodate a car and say a wheelchair next to it without a kerb being in the way, so, as long as the parking space is near the store you could still use it. Those disabled drivers/passengers that are full-time wheelchair users don't have that option. That was my reckoning behind my thinking of severity.

Of course you require the help of a disabled parking space more than an able bodied person but that wasn't in question.
Well Spoon, I have to say that I just don't understand the point of your post in the first place then.

The assessment of the extent of my disability was made by an independent doctor for a start. I was merely relating how it was assessed to be. It was not my initial description, but I do agree with it since even with the crutch, my hip and leg begin to hurt after a very short distance and the effects are additive.

You state that you are guessing which is an unsafe thing to do. I do need to open my car door fully in order to make it easier to get out of my car. I can still manage without a wheelchair but am obviously not looking forward to when it may be necessary. Of course the need for those with a wheelchair is more serious than mine at the moment but nevertheless I feel that my need for a disabled car space is high enough under the circumstances.

I regret that you found it necessary to pick holes and basically accuse me of swinging the lead. It is a shame that you were not prepared to accept what I said in the first place about the extent of my disability, and felt that you had to make guesses which were in fact quite inaccurate.

I did not say what I did for the sake of sympathy but purely to underline what I was saying about the use of disabled parking spaces by the non entitled.

I really hope I can now stop having to justify my eligibility now, in common with most others I am finding it a bit boring!

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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Just been up to Sainsburys before the afternoon panic buy mob swarm over the place. Managed to get a MoAB this morning (last spot) and parked next to me was a fully paid up member of the cloth cap brigade with no kids in the car yet hardly anyone in the disabled spots
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Originally Posted by Leslie
You state that you are guessing which is an unsafe thing to do. I do need to open my car door fully in order to make it easier to get out of my car. I can still manage without a wheelchair but am obviously not looking forward to when it may be necessary. Of course the need for those with a wheelchair is more serious than mine at the moment but nevertheless I feel that my need for a disabled car space is high enough under the circumstances.

I regret that you found it necessary to pick holes and basically accuse me of swinging the lead. It is a shame that you were not prepared to accept what I said in the first place about the extent of my disability, and felt that you had to make guesses which were in fact quite inaccurate.

I did not say what I did for the sake of sympathy but purely to underline what I was saying about the use of disabled parking spaces by the non entitled.

I really hope I can now stop having to justify my eligibility now, in common with most others I am finding it a bit boring!

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Les, it appears my educated guess was correct as highlighted in bold.

Case closed.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Les, it appears my educated guess was correct as highlighted in bold.

Case closed.
Not quite Spoon. You appeared to insinuate that I was self assessing myself as seriously disabled by virtue of the guesses you were making without full knowledge of my disability which I said was unfair as well as being incorrect.

I fully accept that those who need a wheelchair are worse off than me as I indeed said-pretty obvious from the start of course. Nevertheless the description I gave of my own problems were officially accurate which you do not appear able to accept.

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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Not quite Spoon. You appeared to insinuate that I was self assessing myself as seriously disabled by virtue of the guesses you were making without full knowledge of my disability which I said was unfair as well as being incorrect.
I was stating you added an unnecessary emotive tag to the condition of your disabilty. At no point did I or would I doubt your disability. I didn't agree with your emotive addition, simple.

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I fully accept that those who need a wheelchair are worse off than me as I indeed said-pretty obvious from the start of course. Nevertheless the description I gave of my own problems were officially accurate which you do not appear able to accept.

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Glad you can see the point I was making all along.
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by moff1888
I park miles away from the store to avoid the dings etc, I'm always finding plenty of room either side of me. People that park at an angle in the bays should be fined too, thats a real pain in the backside.

The biggest pain is the leaving of trollies in the bay you lazy halfwit numpties, unfortunately I can't see that they could stop this.
easy...1 pound to release the trolley
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gazza-uk
a guy once put a note on my car which was parked outside Wickes and was not across two bays but he took exception to the space i had left next to car at the side of me as i was at the end of the row.he got a bloody shock when i caught him red handed..he wont stick his nose in again in hurry
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Originally Posted by Prasius
While I can understand why people with kids have larger parking spaces (more than anything it keeps them the hell away from my car!), I really don't see why they should be so close to the store.
I would have thought that's obvious. Small children are prone to run off and if you're having to look after multiple kids and push a trolley, it's clearly safer for kids not to have to traverse the whole car park.

Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
I always park in Tesco's parent and child places out of principle, especially if it's raining, because they're the only ones with covered walkways to them
Don't be surprised if someone takes offence when they see you do this and becomes a little less careful with their trolley
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Originally Posted by powerman1
easy...1 pound to release the trolley
That doesn't even work all of the time. The store I work in, you have to pay a pound for the trolly. The carpark is only metres form the store, but all it takes is one selfish ****** who doesn't care about their pound/token, and not only do you end up with one trolly roaming free, but then the other lazy buggers just push their trollies into that one to collect their coin.
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"Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
I always park in Tesco's parent and child places out of principle, especially if it's raining, because they're the only ones with covered walkways to them"

Can't believe this, are you related to Prescotts wife? Yes some are covered, but I don't believe for one second your newborn baby would be impressed if it was exposed to biting winds or a downpour if you had to park far away from the MoAB spots just cause some childless selfish tosspot didn't want to get his hair wet.
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
I'm able bodied, childless.. and I'd like to think still young. We all know that age has no relevance to someone being disabled or not; although it seems many 'old' people think so given the amount of scowling looks I get when I park the Impreza in a disabled bay when my mother is with me. The fact the cards go up seems to be an irrelevance to them over the fact that I'm not an OAP driving a Vauxhall Agila... my mother has apparently had the same looks when parking up her Saxo VTR! Although I must say, when I park next to a Lotus Elan, or a 4x4 which requires the sort of effort to climb into as an ascent on everest thats in a disabled slot, I do start thinking that someone is taking the ****!

In all seriousness, the thing that annoys me most about "mother & baby" spaces is that quite often they're closer to the store entrance than the disabled slots are. While I can understand why people with kids have larger parking spaces (more than anything it keeps them the hell away from my car!), I really don't see why they should be so close to the store.

they try to design the mother&baby spaces so that children do not have to cross the road. obviously different circumstances apply, like a mother on her own with a trolley of shopping a toddler and a baby would prefer not to cross traffic, but a couple with a baby would not need to be as cautious.
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1 and 11 months!

Flipping heck..."you're 6 weeks recovery is up love"


was he climbing on as the midwife cut the cord
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Originally Posted by Spoon
I was stating you added an unnecessary emotive tag to the condition of your disabilty. At no point did I or would I doubt your disability. I didn't agree with your emotive addition, simple.

Glad you can see the point I was making all along.
Spoon, you may well have argued a semantic, but, really, do you think you are being a decent bloke and a man here?

Here we have an older chap, that has served his country, and who suffers from quite a disability. You, an able bodied fella', are arguing with him over absolute bl00dy peanuts in the big scheme of things. I would lose all self respect in such a bitchy 'you are getting one over me' way mysellf. Please cut some slack here and get some perspective; add a dash of human compassion whilst you are at it too, purlease!

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Originally Posted by phil_wrx
was he climbing on as the midwife cut the cord
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Spoon, you may well have argued a semantic, but, really, do you think you are being a decent bloke and a man here?

Here we have an older chap, that has served his country, and who suffers from quite a disability. You, an able bodied fella', are arguing with him over absolute bl00dy peanuts in the big scheme of things. I would lose all self respect in such a bitchy 'you are getting one over me' way mysellf. Please cut some slack here and get some perspective; add a dash of human compassion whilst you are at it too, purlease!

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Diesel, you're way off the mark but if you weren't, I'd agree.
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Originally Posted by phil_wrx
was he climbing on as the midwife cut the cord
Not quite. If it helps with your 'puns' the second kid was over 2 months premature
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Diesel, you're way off the mark but if you weren't, I'd agree.
I really am chuckling How did you do that you, you, mingy grumpot!!

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