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Should SN Ditch Infraction System

Old Jan 12, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
*Hovers over infraction button*


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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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It is pretty obvious that the present system is most unpopular.

We are all big boys and can quite happily speak up for ourselves. I agree with DCI's original comment.

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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
It is pretty obvious that the present system is most unpopular.

We are all big boys and can quite happily speak up for ourselves. I agree with DCI's original comment.

Les
Normally Les most organisations listen to their members but SN doesnt appear to follow that trend
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Supercue
Normally Les most organisations listen to their members but SN doesnt appear to follow that trend
What, as in keeping it?

57.76% of voters at present have voted to keep it.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
What, as in keeping it?

57.76% of voters at present have voted to keep it.
Are you a Labour politician.

80% want it changed.

Or are you Simon
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Changing isn't getting rid.

Only 42% want it gone - the minority.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Saying that, this site was getting a bit 'w@nker heavy', with some really obnoxious idiots.

And, a few of the prats have calmed - no names mentioned.
Oh but you've mellowed well now FP and you can properly join in, well done.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Oh but you've mellowed well now FP and you can properly join in, well done.

You can't though.

You're still in the aformentioned bracket
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
You can't though.

You're still in the aformentioned bracket
I refuse to compromise my integrity.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Changing isn't getting rid.
Whatever .
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
I refuse to compromise my integrity.
Age, and working for one of the most politically correct organisations on the planet have worn me down.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Whatever .
58% of people thus far have voted to keep it. Keep it with a change or keep as is still means keep it.

Personally I couldn't GAF, but the majority seem to want it kept for whatever reason.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
58% of people thus far have voted to keep it. Keep it with a change or keep as is still means keep it.

Personally I couldn't GAF, but the majority seem to want it kept for whatever reason.
If someone steals Heather Mills McCartney's false leg you can be the one to tell her nothing's changed .
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Originally Posted by jasey
If someone steals Heather Mills McCartney's false leg you can be the one to tell her nothing's changed .
ROFFPML
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I say keep it.

It cuts down on ponces and idiots IMHO.
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Lets have a clear an open list of all the the people who have been infracted since the start and the posts they were infracted for. (I believe that a lot of the people who do not like it have the wrong 'reason' for wanting it taken away).

Then I think we should vote which idiots or trolls we want banned for life

Show me the stats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hol
I say keep it.

It cuts down on ponces and idiots IMHO.
surely that only leaves the women
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
surely that only leaves the women
That means more stress once a month
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
surely that only leaves the women

It suits me to stay behind with all the women , if that means we can start being a car enthusiasts site again and not a self opinionation society.

Back to the good old days where people wanted to help each other out here, Rather that just talk about Politics (or other $hite), I say.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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I'm always happy to stay behind with the Ladies
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Regardless of the petty bickering of SN members, the fully paid up members of SN have not shown themselves to be honest, intelligent people with good judgement. Instead some have shown themselves to be pathetic backstabbing cowards. And the Infraction system has been the perfect medium for them to hide behind.
The powers that be need to rethink the infraction system in order to make it less susceptible to abuse by power hungry morons with delusions of superiority.
Anyone issuing an infraction should have to give reason for the action as well as filling out a complaint form that is sent to the recipient of the infraction as well as the moderators. The complaint will then have to be reviewed by the mods who will then judge the infraction to be either fair or not and then either let the infraction stand or withdraw it.
It may sound drawn out, but if members can't be trusted to behave with integrity then they shouldn't be given power to judge.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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You don't have to be paid up to infract.

I'm not, and can infract.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hol
It suits me to stay behind with all the women , if that means we can start being a car enthusiasts site again and not a self opinionation society.

Back to the good old days where people wanted to help each other out here, Rather that just talk about Politics (or other $hite), I say.
I bet you're a bag of laughs.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by magepaster
Regardless of the petty bickering of SN members, the fully paid up members of SN have not shown themselves to be honest, intelligent people with good judgement. Instead some have shown themselves to be pathetic backstabbing cowards. And the Infraction system has been the perfect medium for them to hide behind.
The powers that be need to rethink the infraction system in order to make it less susceptible to abuse by power hungry morons with delusions of superiority.
Anyone issuing an infraction should have to give reason for the action as well as filling out a complaint form that is sent to the recipient of the infraction as well as the moderators. The complaint will then have to be reviewed by the mods who will then judge the infraction to be either fair or not and then either let the infraction stand or withdraw it.
It may sound drawn out, but if members can't be trusted to behave with integrity then they shouldn't be given power to judge.

I think that is a logical argument.

But, if it is a valid infraction and is upheld - why cant we go one further and get rid of the infractee???

I think I have done 2 - If anyone thinks that is excessive???
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
I bet you're a bag of laughs.
And I bet you'll make a great uncle Albert clone, when you get older
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
You don't have to be paid up to infract.

I'm not, and can infract.

You know, I have just noticed I too can infract (Thanks for the heads up FP ). And yet it has never occured to me to find out whether or not I can infract as I consider myself open to debate. If I see something on the internet I don't wish to I have the power to choose to see something elsewith a simple click of my mouse. If I disagree with someones opinion I am grown up enough to put my point accross and listen to fair arguement.
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Originally Posted by magepaster
You know, I have just noticed I too can infract (Thanks for the heads up FP ). And yet it has never occured to me to find out whether or not I can infract as I consider myself open to debate. If I see something on the internet I don't wish to I have the power to choose to see something elsewith a simple click of my mouse. If I disagree with someones opinion I am grown up enough to put my point accross and listen to fair arguement.
You not tempted to dish out a bit of SN justice to see how it feels?

Go on, hit someone with a scoobyslap
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
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A new phenomenom sweeping the board
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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The ScoobySlap

The basic point is, if you don't like something - don't read it. If it is really out-of-order RTM .....

Originally Infractions were given out correctly and stopped spam and glaring trolling ..... not now - I was Infracted for asking what the downsides were to mapping your car .... it was my own thread and a simple question .... which shows how pathetic it has become!
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Why would you want a remap though Pete ....... You'll be getting a Knock link next !!!

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