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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Well so far Scrapping is still out in front with nearly 40% of the votes
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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It takes all sorts to make a community fun, but there was a time, shortly before the infractions were introduced when this place was becomming over-run with people whose sole purpose of being on SN was to wind people up; and not in a funny banter-esque way, but in a malacious way! A good proportion of them are now no more, or have resurfaced as different IDs and been forced to tone their antics down lest a) we recognise them b) they get infracted to oblivion!

However, some trolls are now using the infraction system to their advantage: there is a lot of banter on here and, as can be expected in a community composed of people from all walks of life, a lot of lively discussion. Trolls are now jumping on this and using it as justification to irritate established and valued members who are on here to participate in the community properly.

Maybe a solution is not to display who is responsible for all infractions, but have an SN hall of shame for those that infract spuriously i.e. have more than 3 infractions that have been overturned?

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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
It takes all sorts to make a community fun, but there was a time, shortly before the infractions were introduced when this place was becomming over-run with people whose sole purpose of being on SN was to wind people up; and not in a funny banter-esque way, but in a malacious way! A good proportion of them are now no more, or have resurfaced as different IDs and been forced to tone their antics down lest a) we recognise them b) they get infracted to oblivion!

However, some trolls are now using the infraction system to their advantage: there is a lot of banter on here and, as can be expected in a community composed of people from all walks of life, a lot of lively discussion. Trolls are now jumping on this and using it as justification to irritate established and valued members who are on here to participate in the community properly.

Maybe a solution is not to display who is responsible for all infractions, but have an SN hall of shame for those that infract spuriously i.e. have more than 3 infractions that have been overturned?

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I'd support any initiative that stops these infracting saddo's (you know who you are) using the infraction system for their own weird and slightly disturbing kicks.

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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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The infraction system is a total failure. But then did anyone ever think giving the public powers to issue penalties would ever be a good idea?

Let's go back to the ratings. That was fun!
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Some infractions are justified, but the majority are for silly reasons against people the infractor doesn't like, I'm sure they are the sort of people who if in real life had a problem they'd say nothing face to face, they'd go take a key across your car or something equally cowardly
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Say whatever you like... I've got your number, and I'm guessing so have a few others now
I think you will find more people have your number and have had so for quite a whilst..
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
I think you will find more people have your number and have had so for quite a whilst..
Whose number??

I'm lost.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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yours is 999 isnt it?

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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Sometimes
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Pete, you have toned down one hell of a lot since the system was introduced. This means you 'can' be funny without being rude!
I have tried

Hasn't stopped me getting Infracted to hell though!
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
(Register 5 accounts from 5 mail addys and 5 different computers, wait six months to give Pete a 2 week ban. I don't think that even Uncle Buck would go to those lengths)
OH, but he would ......................
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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So how many accounts have you got now Pete?
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Maybe a solution is not to display who is responsible for all infractions, but have an SN hall of shame for those that infract spuriously i.e. have more than 3 infractions that have been overturned?

Ns04
That's actually a very good point ..... if a single member is having a lot of Infractions overturned they need to be named and shamed, they are clearly out of kilter with the Community.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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I reckon the system was invented to promote discussion ( keep the numbers up) as much as solve any kind of problem ...
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Supercue
So how many accounts have you got now Pete?
I have 1 active

1 Banned

I have no others which can be used, I have NO 'Secret Accounts' ... my accounts are always quite clearly me - I have only ONE posting style!
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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There are far fewer arseholes using the site now than there were before Infractions were brought in.

Having more than one, OK perhaps two, accounts seems childish to me.

Obviously childish or "revenge" Infractions should result in a ban. 3 hits and you are out I would suggest. dl
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
There are far fewer arseholes using the site now than there were before Infractions were brought in.

Having more than one, OK perhaps two, accounts seems childish to me.

Obviously childish or "revenge" Infractions should result in a ban. 3 hits and you are out I would suggest. dl
That's quite true actually. I remember when people would sign in with username 'b' to back up a point made with username 'a'.

Atleast now, a new user that is blatantly only here to troll, can be banned straight away. Atleast that send out a message: Behave, or get out.
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Its been very interesting to see all the different comments but by far the Keep It option is way behind options A & C. So will Webby take any notice of this vote?
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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He will look and that will be it
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by *Jamie*
He will lock it and that will be it
When I received 5 infractions in under an hour not 1 had the ***** to pm me explaining why
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
When I received 5 infractions in under an hour not 1 had the ***** to pm me explaining why
What was the thread you got them for?
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
What was the thread you got them for?
The "Is sn infracting itself into oblivion thread"
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
When I received 5 infractions in under an hour not 1 had the ***** to pm me explaining why
I had two in the Hutch FFS and two from Mods after I had stopped and responded immediately to their e-mails Now they were for excessive smile or two but not one insult to man nor beast

I even managed to have two others removed but what a process.

Originally I voted for scrapping but TBH I thinkl the name and shame option is vastly more appealing
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
The "Is sn infracting itself into oblivion thread"
This one https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...-oblivion.html
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Supercue
I had two in the Hutch FFS and two from Mods after I had stopped and responded immediately to their e-mails Now they were for excessive smile or two but not one insult to man nor beast

I even managed to have two others removed but what a process.

Originally I voted for scrapping but TBH I thinkl the name and shame option is vastly more appealing
I was infracted for "saying indeed old bean" I could not appeal as I was banned for 3 months
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
I was infracted for "saying indeed old bean" I could not appeal as I was banned for 3 months
Oh that one. I think I infacted you then......... Joking!

What's the point in having moderators now if we're all able to infact, and, ultimately ban other members.

Saying that, this site was getting a bit 'w@nker heavy', with some really obnoxious idiots.

And, a few of the prats have calmed - no names mentioned.
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
I was infracted for "saying indeed old bean" I could not appeal as I was banned for 3 months
3mths

Absolutely crazy. I was hoping webby or someone from on high would join in but doesnt look like they want to comment

As a straw poll surely these figures should be looked at?
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Scrap it.... there's no need for it as that's what a forums moderators are for
Agree totally - Current infraction system is ruining this site!!
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby2!
Agree totally - Current infraction system is ruining this site!!
*Hovers over infraction button*


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